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| Taku Canada. May 03 2012 10:21. Posts 1784 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:16 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Also, another point to note, how exactly do you guys discern SC2 people from BW people? I'm confused with the 'SC2 people get out' calls.
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| UTL_Unlimited Korea (South). May 03 2012 10:22. Posts 317 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:21 Taku wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:16 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Also, another point to note, how exactly do you guys discern SC2 people from BW people? I'm confused with the 'SC2 people get out' calls.
It's the same way you can discern BW LR threads from SC2 ones I think, it all comes down to the posting style 
Really? I personally can't tell the difference :/ |
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| GizmoPT Portugal. May 03 2012 10:23. Posts 1438 | Profile # |
On May 03 2012 10:22 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:21 Taku wrote: On May 03 2012 10:16 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Also, another point to note, how exactly do you guys discern SC2 people from BW people? I'm confused with the 'SC2 people get out' calls.
It's the same way you can discern BW LR threads from SC2 ones I think, it all comes down to the posting style 
Really? I personally can't tell the difference :/
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| UTL_Unlimited Korea (South). May 03 2012 10:24. Posts 317 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:23 GizmoPT wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:22 UTL_Unlimited wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Taku wrote: On May 03 2012 10:16 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Also, another point to note, how exactly do you guys discern SC2 people from BW people? I'm confused with the 'SC2 people get out' calls.
It's the same way you can discern BW LR threads from SC2 ones I think, it all comes down to the posting style 
Really? I personally can't tell the difference :/
easy just look at the teams in our signature thats the way to tell 
I just realized. I have KT's. WTF? When did I put that there? O_O Iconception.
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| Ribbon United States. May 03 2012 10:38. Posts 5020 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior.
At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene. |
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| Taku Canada. May 03 2012 10:43. Posts 1784 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote:Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
Well I guess we can all be useless, worthless, and of no benefit to dota2 now then. No loss for you too~
Also that's a perfect example of posting style as I mentioned, notice the harsh personal attacks and lack of actual argument, with a touch of whining. Well, that's just my perception at least, you don't see that as much over here eh?Last edit: 2012-05-03 10:47:21 |
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| TrainSamurai May 03 2012 10:48. Posts 258 | Profile # |
On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote:Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
I don't know about everyone else but I still play the game every now and then. What more do you want? I'm sad the scene is dead and getting replaced by an inferior game but I don't need a scene. I don't care about sharing BW with anyone because I'm perfectly happy with the game, if I lose iccup then so be it I will move on with life.
Everyone contributes and volunteers for love of the game and community. I don't think someone like Kiett does things for e-peen, hopefully. If the scene dies I don't see whats wrong with things fizzling out. The differences is that you want something more and lashing out at people who just accepted the death of BW. Death isn't strictly a bad thing. The manner in which it is dying is another issue, this OSL is going to be fkn terrible.Last edit: 2012-05-03 10:55:59 |
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| Sawamura Malaysia. May 03 2012 10:49. Posts 7233 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:43 Taku wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
Well I guess we can all be useless, worthless, and of no benefit to dota2 now then. No loss for you too~
Yup no loss at all ~~ after all most of us are just leeches anyway. I don't think hosting a few tournaments is enough to say you have supported the scene . Actually I regard translators who have been giving us all the necessary information about the korean scene was the people who support the scene the most . Without them I don't think I would have known more about hoejja, Nal_Ra old boy wouldn't be translated .
Winners Interview,Q&A session with oov I am indebted to this guys who translated this articles for free .Last edit: 2012-05-03 10:50:30 |
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Kim_Hyun_Han May 03 2012 10:51. Posts 706 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote:Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
why are you bothered ?
return to your master, spread the good news we arent different at all are we? isnt it great? the taste of victory? it is not a matter of who is the best one, but who fits the needs better, and your game my friend, fits the needs of mr Morhaime really better
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| synapse China. May 03 2012 10:53. Posts 6911 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 09:46 Ribbon wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 03:20 Djabanete wrote: On May 02 2012 16:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 02 2012 15:57 Sprouter wrote:some of you guys can kick and scream all you like, if this is what it takes to keep the best players playing starcraft (2), then so be it. i'm really surprised there are so many people (who claim to be) leaving when there are still many excellent players. if a game switch killed your passion to cheer for Flash or Jaedong, good riddens to you.
At the end of the day, no one actually liked Flash, the human being. Not in the same way SC2 fans like, say, MarineKing or Naniwa. They liked him because he was really good at BW. Full stop.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm actually baffled at how someone who seems to care about BW (organizing/sponsoring tournaments) could be so oblivious. BW didn't "fail" because fans didn't care about the players enough.
And I didn't say it did. I said BW fans won't follow Flash outside of BW because they don't care of Flash outside of BW.
What the fuck? Who are you? |
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| fold Australia. May 03 2012 11:08. Posts 597 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:53 synapse wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 09:46 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 03:20 Djabanete wrote: On May 02 2012 16:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 02 2012 15:57 Sprouter wrote:some of you guys can kick and scream all you like, if this is what it takes to keep the best players playing starcraft (2), then so be it. i'm really surprised there are so many people (who claim to be) leaving when there are still many excellent players. if a game switch killed your passion to cheer for Flash or Jaedong, good riddens to you.
At the end of the day, no one actually liked Flash, the human being. Not in the same way SC2 fans like, say, MarineKing or Naniwa. They liked him because he was really good at BW. Full stop.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm actually baffled at how someone who seems to care about BW (organizing/sponsoring tournaments) could be so oblivious. BW didn't "fail" because fans didn't care about the players enough.
And I didn't say it did. I said BW fans won't follow Flash outside of BW because they don't care of Flash outside of BW.
What the fuck? Who are you?
Just someone who has most of his posts in the sc2 forum, sponsored one or two tournaments played on really silly maps and only comes here to post in these kind of threads. |
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| sinistral Singapore. May 03 2012 11:32. Posts 768 | Profile # |
On May 03 2012 10:16 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Also, another point to note, how exactly do you guys discern SC2 people from BW people? I'm confused with the 'SC2 people get out' calls.
+ Show Spoiler +SC2 fans - kids playing around a playground, yelling around, making up fights, crying to mum about not buying this soda drink which become immensely popular virally 2 years ago for them but adults don't really like it.
BW fans - fine class gentlemen wearing business suits tasting a 13 years old champagne talking about the finest of this champagne while also discussing which makers for 13 years old champagne produce the best champagne.
Just check the post history will do. It's easier to find 'BW people' because they always post in BW LR threads.
+ Show Spoiler +Then there's those adults that drink both champagne and that soda drink. I am disappoint. Last edit: 2012-05-03 11:33:03 |
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| Ribbon United States. May 03 2012 11:38. Posts 5020 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:43 Taku wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
Well I guess we can all be useless, worthless, and of no benefit to dota2 now then. No loss for you too~ Also that's a perfect example of posting style as I mentioned, notice the harsh personal attacks and lack of actual argument, with a touch of whining. Well, that's just my perception at least, you don't see that as much over here eh?
Are you serious? All the BW forum is now is whining and trolling. It's pure tribalism, and no one even cares about the games anymore, just about proving they're better than the other guy.
On May 03 2012 10:49 Sawamura wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:43 Taku wrote: On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
Well I guess we can all be useless, worthless, and of no benefit to dota2 now then. No loss for you too~
Yup no loss at all ~~ after all most of us are just leeches anyway. I don't think hosting a few tournaments is enough to say you have supported the scene .
And what have you done?
On May 03 2012 10:51 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
why are you bothered ?
Because, unlike you, I care about BW. Not just getting to feel like a persecuted woe-is-me elite master race
On May 03 2012 11:32 sinistral wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:16 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Also, another point to note, how exactly do you guys discern SC2 people from BW people? I'm confused with the 'SC2 people get out' calls.
+ Show Spoiler +SC2 fans - kids playing around a playground, yelling around, making up fights, crying to mum about not buying this soda drink which become immensely popular virally 2 years ago for them but adults don't really like it.
BW fans - fine class gentlemen wearing business suits tasting a 13 years old champagne talking about the finest of this champagne while also discussing which makers for 13 years old champagne produce the best champagne.
Just check the post history will do. It's easier to find 'BW people' because they always post in BW LR threads. + Show Spoiler +Then there's those adults that drink both champagne and that soda drink. I am disappoint.
Like this guy. Look at this guy! He just wants to feel superior.
On May 03 2012 10:48 TrainSamurai wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
I don't know about everyone else but I still play the game every now and then. What more do you want? I'm sad the scene is dead and getting replaced by an inferior game but I don't need a scene. I don't care about sharing BW with anyone because I'm perfectly happy with the game, if I lose iccup then so be it I will move on with life. Everyone contributes and volunteers for love of the game and community. I don't think someone like Kiett does things for e-peen, hopefully. If the scene dies I don't see whats wrong with things fizzling out. The differences is that you want something more and lashing out at people who just accepted the death of BW. Death isn't strictly a bad thing. The manner in which it is dying is another issue, this OSL is going to be fkn terrible.
I'm not really aiming my vitriol at people like you, who enjoyed BW, and are now sad that it's going away. It's more at people like Sawamura, who were actively hurting it and are now trying to claim some bullshit moral high ground. Blaming other people for their own failures. That's what's getting me all in a dander. Last edit: 2012-05-03 11:41:48 |
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| sCCrooked Korea (South). May 03 2012 11:41. Posts 1068 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote:Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
I worked at the last WCG to hold BW. Connected with players like FlaSh, Jaedong and KaL and their coaches/trainers in an attempt to get some insight for the foreign scene in collaboration with EG, and other top foreign pros like Day9, DJ Wheat, Ranged, Joekim, G5, Painuser, and more. Then I put many hours into casting tournaments and streaming before frying my computer.
I still to this day continue to work to fix my equipment so I can try to support and start something for the mid to upper level BW community so all us Cs don't feel so awful about the probability we'll keep getting squashed by the same A/B players that have been on top since sc2 released and we nearly lost it all.
Do not try to sit on some high horse thinking we're just some bums. Anyone left in BW right now is probably a pillar trying their hardest to hold it up. Starcraft: Brood War isn't just a game anymore to a lot of us. Its a significant part of our lives. Such assumptions are quite detestable.Last edit: 2012-05-03 11:48:25 |
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| Ribbon United States. May 03 2012 11:44. Posts 5020 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 11:41 sCCrooked wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote: On May 03 2012 10:21 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:Wonderful @Ribbon it is wonderful that you are a Star2 guy, here, check this link, it is a place for people like you and hey, dont tell anyone but i've read somewhere that you got a victory in korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=19
Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
I worked at the last WCG to hold BW. Connected with players like FlaSh, Jaedong and KaL and their coaches/trainers in an attempt to get some insight for the foreign scene in collaboration with EG, and other top foreign pros like Day9, DJ Wheat, Ranged, Joekim, G5, Painuser, and more. Then I put many hours into casting tournaments and streaming before frying my computer. I still to this day continue to work to fix my equipment so I can try to support and start something for the mid to upper level BW community so all us Cs don't feel so awful about the probability we'll keep getting squashed by the same A/B players that have been on top since sc2 released and we nearly lost it all. Do not try to sit on some high horse thinking we're just some bums. Anyone left in BW right now is probably a pillar trying their hardest to hold it up. This game and this community isn't just a game anymore. Its a significant part of our lives. Such assumptions are quite detestable.
You're right. I am generalizing, and that's unfair. You did good work for BW. Thank you. There are others in the scene who have as well (Game and Sayle, most obviously to my own mind). But I don't see those people coming in and raging like I do certain others. The people who supported Brood War are, for the most part, acting with dignity now, and it's a little unfair to lump you all in together with lazy trolls. I apologize to anyone who actually did contribute to BW. |
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| Bijan United States. May 03 2012 11:51. Posts 208 | Profile # |
On May 03 2012 08:39 ShadeR wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:24 Bijan wrote: On May 03 2012 08:13 1Eris1 wrote: Why the fuck are people who don't play/watch BW posting in this thread? Seriously, can you not read the title? Or the forum your in?
This is just plain mean. We're all entitled to opinions if we're contributing to the discussion, and this is something that affects and matters to a lot of us, regardless of which side of the starcraft line we identify with. You can go find a mod and tell him or her to filter us out if you want.
Well then....wtf are your post bw plans?
My post BW plans are to try and convince you lot that there is hope for SC2 and that you should remain a part of the community. Relevant enough. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I honestly don't want to see you guys go.
BW is the gold standard SC2 fans should want Blizzard to live up to and this scene is a part of that. |
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| Ribbon United States. May 03 2012 12:02. Posts 5020 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 11:51 Bijan wrote: Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:39 ShadeR wrote: On May 03 2012 08:24 Bijan wrote: On May 03 2012 08:13 1Eris1 wrote: Why the fuck are people who don't play/watch BW posting in this thread? Seriously, can you not read the title? Or the forum your in?
This is just plain mean. We're all entitled to opinions if we're contributing to the discussion, and this is something that affects and matters to a lot of us, regardless of which side of the starcraft line we identify with. You can go find a mod and tell him or her to filter us out if you want.
Well then....wtf are your post bw plans?
My post BW plans are to try and convince you lot that there is hope for SC2 and that you should remain a part of the community. Relevant enough. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I honestly don't want to see you guys go
Don't, dude. Everyone's made up their mind. The only way to get BW fans into SC2 is to make it a worthy successor and come back to them then. No point mentioning it until that happens, if it does. |
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| koreasilver Canada. May 03 2012 12:06. Posts 7488 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 10:38 Ribbon wrote:Bad as the SC2 community and their ESPORTS fervor can be, at least they haven't spent the past three years bitching, moaning, pissing, whining, raging, and praying for BW to fail so they have an excuse to feel even more persecuted and superior. At least I've actually supported the scene, and continue to do so with tournaments. What the fuck have you, or most of the people in this thread, ever done for BW? Nothing. So you don't get to feel superior just because you still have your BW purity ring. You're useless, worthless, and no benefit at all to the scene.
Who are you again? |
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| Taku Canada. May 03 2012 12:07. Posts 1784 | Profile Blog # |
| Honestly the only way for me to even consider following into SC2 would be for Blizzard to make a public statement admitting that they failed and messed up the entire Starcraft franchise with sc2. I don't hold much of a grudge against the scene itself but I just can't stand Blizzard anymore. |
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