| ProxyKnoxy United Kingdom. May 17 2012 02:25. Posts 2543 | Profile # |
On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled 
When MBCgame shut down I burst into tears of joy.
Or not. Grow up.. |
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| Torpedo.Vegas United States. May 17 2012 08:41. Posts 1842 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2012 01:26 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 01:12 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
Happy a team had to disband?
Well, it does send the message that the SC2 scene needs to step up its game, maybe they'll take it seriously now...
They were just playing around before? |
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| wassbix Canada. May 17 2012 09:57. Posts 496 | Profile # |
On May 17 2012 08:41 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 01:26 Taku wrote:
On May 17 2012 01:12 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
Happy a team had to disband?
Well, it does send the message that the SC2 scene needs to step up its game, maybe they'll take it seriously now...
They were just playing around before?
The SC2 scene, despite all the money, comes off pretty amateur. From Blizzard's idiot marketing blitz to all the idiotic drama (in 10 years of BW i've never seen a pro player call other people gooks and niggers) and premiere events consistantly having game drops. |
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| Torpedo.Vegas United States. May 17 2012 11:30. Posts 1842 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2012 09:57 wassbix wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 08:41 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On May 17 2012 01:26 Taku wrote:
On May 17 2012 01:12 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
Happy a team had to disband?
Well, it does send the message that the SC2 scene needs to step up its game, maybe they'll take it seriously now...
They were just playing around before?
The SC2 scene, despite all the money, comes off pretty amateur. From Blizzard's idiot marketing blitz to all the idiotic drama (in 10 years of BW i've never seen a pro player call other people gooks and niggers) and premiere events consistantly having game drops.
Thats okay, but BW was extremely focused from the get-go. You have to admit there are a lot more global and cultural variables at play in SC2 then in BW. What marketing blitz are you criticizing? The Korean side of things, or global side of things? And the game drops are something I agree with. They need to find a way to make Bnet connections much more reliable for major tournaments or give some kind of tournament special version that has Lan mode and maybe does away with all the extra stuff. There is a lot of stuff needed to be done, but many of these regions do not have the 10 years of BW infrastructure to build on, and the one place that does have it isn't even starting to use it really until next week. |
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| Chef May 17 2012 12:14. Posts 9708 | Profile Blog # |
What marketing blitz are you criticizing? The Korean side of things, or global side of things?
He is talking about Blizzard putting up posters in places they weren't supposed to in korea to make their game big that pissed off A LOT of people (for example, the people who owned the property they put it on) and it came off as being incredibly arrogant and is part of the reason SC2 didn't take off as much.
If you don't even know about that you probably don't have the insight to argue about it. BW didn't always have 10 years of infrastructure lol. SC2 is basically inheriting its infrastructure (it has since release, but now it is taking away the most critical part of BW), and we'll have to see what that means if anything. SC2 will get a nice studio and real production values for awhile and then it'll be curious to see if KeSPA keeps SC2 as their flagship or subsidises it too if foreigners are spread too thin across too many different events / don't care about KeSPA tournaments enough to be profitable. |
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| Torpedo.Vegas United States. May 17 2012 12:33. Posts 1842 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2012 12:14 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +What marketing blitz are you criticizing? The Korean side of things, or global side of things?
He is talking about Blizzard putting up posters in places they weren't supposed to in korea to make their game big that pissed off A LOT of people (for example, the people who owned the property they put it on) and it came off as being incredibly arrogant and is part of the reason SC2 didn't take off as much. If you don't even know about that you probably don't have the insight to argue about it. BW didn't always have 10 years of infrastructure lol. SC2 is basically inheriting its infrastructure (it has since release, but now it is taking away the most critical part of BW), and we'll have to see what that means if anything. SC2 will get a nice studio and real production values for awhile and then it'll be curious to see if KeSPA keeps SC2 as their flagship or subsidises it too if foreigners are spread too thin across too many different events / don't care about KeSPA tournaments enough to be profitable.
I knew of Blizzards general Korea botch up's from a PR persepective, but I didn't think that translated to a global botch up in the grand scheme of things from a marketing stand point. I'd say in general things were handled well enough outside Korea. I'm not 100% sure what would have made that more professional. But again, if we are only talking about Korea's PR then yes I agree they botched it.
I don't think I said BW always have 10 of of inftrastructure. I believe I said (or meant to convey), BW had 10 years in Korea to develop the professional manner in which business was conducted. I then said terrirtories outside Korea didn't have this established frame work and could only somewhat emulate (in a very general sense) what they say. Yes GOM was there to sort of hold the SC2 Korean scene together, but GOM really wasn't the primary orgnaization managing BW's infrastructure. With that, only now is KeSPA's experiences in the BW scene being applied to SC2.
So SC2 hasn't inherited all that much overall. Yes it got the hype, the name and concepts like team houses or booths to play in, but even those are not 100% solidified outside Korea. And within Korea SC2 hasn't really had the big assests KeSPA has had due to the legal matters between Blizzard and KeSPA as well as the botched PR job.
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| ffreakk Singapore. May 18 2012 07:22. Posts 2035 | Profile # |
On May 17 2012 01:12 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
Happy a team had to disband?
Or maybe it is that a game that i prefer gets the support they deserve, over a game that i don't like. It's true
On May 17 2012 01:29 pyromaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
its okay to be upset because your game is dead, but that is just childish
I, too, am ashamed that i had these vengeful feelings. Regardless, I do wish LoL all the best in its conquest. |
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| shaftofpleasure Korea (North). May 24 2012 02:10. Posts 1127 | Profile Blog # |
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.Last edit: 2012-05-24 02:13:48 |
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| RageCommodore Germany. May 24 2012 02:19. Posts 823 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit. |
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| Sinedd Poland. May 24 2012 02:22. Posts 6195 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 02:19 RageCommodore wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit.
one person does not make the whole fucking scene look stupid.. wtf are you talking about..
he is just expressing his feelings, thats all..
I agree that this format is probably the WORST idea EVER and i mean EVER in esport history..
if you want something to succeed than do it properly.. not half assed like this -,-Last edit: 2012-05-24 02:23:18 |
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| shaftofpleasure Korea (North). May 24 2012 02:23. Posts 1127 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 02:19 RageCommodore wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit.
When/where did I say I represent the entire BW?
I am stating my deep feelings/reaction towards this bullshit.
I have came to BW from 3.3.7 and passionately followed it while rooting for the underdog. Clearly now, BW is the underdog. I am rooting for it. SC2 is one hyped-up shit.
Fucking sell-outs.Last edit: 2012-05-24 02:24:45 |
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| RageCommodore Germany. May 24 2012 02:31. Posts 823 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 02:23 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:19 RageCommodore wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit.
When/where did I say I represent the entire BW? I am stating my deep feelings/reaction towards this bullshit. I have came to BW from 3.3.7 and passionately followed it while rooting for the underdog. Clearly now, BW is the underdog. I am rooting for it. SC2 is one hyped-up shit. Fucking sell-outs.
Rooting for the underdog and mindless bashing because you hate SC2 is not the same thing. You obviously can't think clearly anymore if you are happy that people in a different game possibly lose everything they worked hard for.
Nobody laughed when MBC died. You are just fucking disrespectful. hate SC2 as much as you want, but don't dare to shit on people that lose their team becaus their sponsors went away. You don't seem to see the irony in that, don't you? |
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| shaftofpleasure Korea (North). May 24 2012 02:35. Posts 1127 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 02:31 RageCommodore wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:23 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:19 RageCommodore wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit.
When/where did I say I represent the entire BW? I am stating my deep feelings/reaction towards this bullshit. I have came to BW from 3.3.7 and passionately followed it while rooting for the underdog. Clearly now, BW is the underdog. I am rooting for it. SC2 is one hyped-up shit. Fucking sell-outs.
Rooting for the underdog and mindless bashing because you hate SC2 is not the same thing. You obviously can't think clearly anymore if you are happy that people in a different game possibly lose everything they worked hard for. Nobody laughed when MBC died. You are just fucking disrespectful. hate SC2 as much as you want, but don't dare to shit on people that lose their team becaus their sponsors went away. You don't seem to see the irony in that, don't you?
Yeah I do, but people not laughing at the downfall of MBC while some laugh at the idea of a falling SC2 team is not my problem. Just goes to show how weak SC2's infrastructure is and how the people around it would immediately bail when their ship starts to sink.Last edit: 2012-05-24 02:36:12 |
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| Darksoldierr Hungary. May 24 2012 02:41. Posts 1896 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 02:35 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:31 RageCommodore wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:23 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:19 RageCommodore wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit.
When/where did I say I represent the entire BW? I am stating my deep feelings/reaction towards this bullshit. I have came to BW from 3.3.7 and passionately followed it while rooting for the underdog. Clearly now, BW is the underdog. I am rooting for it. SC2 is one hyped-up shit. Fucking sell-outs.
Rooting for the underdog and mindless bashing because you hate SC2 is not the same thing. You obviously can't think clearly anymore if you are happy that people in a different game possibly lose everything they worked hard for. Nobody laughed when MBC died. You are just fucking disrespectful. hate SC2 as much as you want, but don't dare to shit on people that lose their team becaus their sponsors went away. You don't seem to see the irony in that, don't you?
Yeah I do, but people not laughing at the downfall of MBC while some laugh at the idea of a falling SC2 team is not my problem. Just goes to show how weak SC2's infrastructure is and how the people around it would immediately bail when their ship starts to sink.
Then by your logic, BW's infrastructure is weak and thats why sponsors leaving the ship? |
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| shaftofpleasure Korea (North). May 24 2012 02:43. Posts 1127 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 02:41 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 02:35 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:31 RageCommodore wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:23 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:19 RageCommodore wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
SC2 is stupid. I don't know why people would stay for this type of shitty format of a league.
Blizzard is stupid. I don't know why people side with these ass-clowns, maybe they're ass-clowns themselves
Stupidity all around. Fuck this shit.
And I am not fucking ashamed that whenever I read something about SC2 doing all shitty and I feel glee as fuck. Because I want stupidity to go down.
All of it is fucking stupid retarded bullshit that is being fed to ass-hats by ass-clowns.
Fucking stupid retarded bullshit = SC2
ass-hats = people
ass-clowns = blizzard
Just so you know.
You make the BW scene look terrible. What you're saying is just immature bullshit.
When/where did I say I represent the entire BW? I am stating my deep feelings/reaction towards this bullshit. I have came to BW from 3.3.7 and passionately followed it while rooting for the underdog. Clearly now, BW is the underdog. I am rooting for it. SC2 is one hyped-up shit. Fucking sell-outs.
Rooting for the underdog and mindless bashing because you hate SC2 is not the same thing. You obviously can't think clearly anymore if you are happy that people in a different game possibly lose everything they worked hard for. Nobody laughed when MBC died. You are just fucking disrespectful. hate SC2 as much as you want, but don't dare to shit on people that lose their team becaus their sponsors went away. You don't seem to see the irony in that, don't you?
Yeah I do, but people not laughing at the downfall of MBC while some laugh at the idea of a falling SC2 team is not my problem. Just goes to show how weak SC2's infrastructure is and how the people around it would immediately bail when their ship starts to sink.
Then by your logic, BW's infrastructure is weak and thats why sponsors leaving the ship?
Do you understand the word 'immediately'? |
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| wassbix Canada. May 24 2012 02:56. Posts 496 | Profile # |
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| therockmanxx Peru. May 24 2012 03:35. Posts 1095 | Profile # |
Age of Empire is getting a non official new expasion with new civilizations, balance upgrade, couple of new things and minor changes to the gameplay.
I must say ... its actually really good to watch =) |
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| jpak United States. May 24 2012 04:04. Posts 3648 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 03:35 therockmanxx wrote:
Age of Empire is getting a non official new expasion with new civilizations, balance upgrade, couple of new things and minor changes to the gameplay.
I must say ... its actually really good to watch =)
Age of Empires is so fun, both to play and to watch. |
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| Darksoldierr Hungary. May 24 2012 04:04. Posts 1896 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 03:35 therockmanxx wrote:
Age of Empire is getting a non official new expasion with new civilizations, balance upgrade, couple of new things and minor changes to the gameplay.
I must say ... its actually really good to watch =)
Ye, AoE2 living again with a new fire |
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| Black[CAT] Malaysia. January 11 2013 03:47. Posts 2537 | Profile Blog # |
On April 27 2012 03:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 03:06 bearbuddy wrote:
Will probably watch some Dota2, though it's probably more accessible via gg net.
If TL had a sister site called LiquidMOBA or LiquidDOTA I'd be a part of that for sure.
It's like a prophecy fulfilled 
We've come a long way.... |
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