Wheel of Fortune Mini Mafia - Page 25

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On April 25 2012 22:23 Ace wrote:
Neither would a normal Townie. Everyone regardless of alignment is going to try and prove their innocent.

The problem with your thinking is "lets not lynch a player who isn't defending himself". I mean...come on. How does this even make sense? If the case against Zentor is he actually did Scummy things AND he isn't bothering to defend himself then how do you figure he is innocent?

Lets try this another way.

2 players on trial. Both of them have rock solid cases that show they have done things that more likely than not Scum would do during the course of the game.

Player A shows up to defend himself from all accusations.
Player B doesn't show up, but earlier in the trial promised to offer future proof about other players being Scum. Oh and he voted for himself.

You want us to ignore Player B and find Players C and D?

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On April 25 2012 22:35 Ace wrote:
A normal Townie = a person trying to actually survive a lynch.

Why does How player A defends himself even matter here? It could be the worst defense of all time, but the fact that he even tried in stark contrast to a player who doesn't goes a long way.

Really, your defense is "I've seen him do this one time before, and I don't believe Scum would do Scummy things so blatantly."

Where as some of us have deemed his behavior Scummy, so then yes more than likely he is Scum.

Screw it, let's lynch people for being too town. There is no way an actual Townie would have the balls to do that.

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On April 25 2012 22:39 marvellosity wrote:


Right. The defence of Zentor here is just pure wifom. Would scum act so scummy? It's too scummy to be scum, so therefore he must be town. But what if he knows that he's behaving too scummy to be scum and therefore he looks townie. Then all of a sudden he could be scum again because he grasps this. Ad infinitum. This is practically a paragon of WIFOM, pure and simple.

If we leave the WIFOM that we can't possibly resolve (we can always go an iteration further...) then what are we left with? His scummy behaviour, his anti-town posting. This is the evidence we can rely on, and it's why he's probably scum.

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On April 23 2012 16:22 phagga wrote:
ok, catching up.

game mechanics stuff:

- Hydras should sign. Everything else lowers transparency for town.
- After reading all the pros and cons, I'd support a mason claim day 2. Reason: Many Vets + 2 masons = too many targets to handle for scum. D3 might be too late because of counterclaim (depends on nightkills and SK situation).

On to more important stuff in no particular order:

Mr. Zentor: I don't like how his "really long post" was actually not long at all, but only full of quotes. If we ignore the quotes, the post was quite short. So why announce it as long?
His case on prplhz was weak, and when asked a second time why he thought that prplhz was still scummy, he never answered. His style is unnecessarily aggresive.

VisceraEyes: His Filter shows 5 ingame posts, which is more than I have, but unlike me he is notorious for being very active borderline on spamming, trying to direct people and generally being helpful to town. He is completely lacking these features this game. His townread post is suspicious, I can't remember him making townlists like this in the last games? His behaviour currently reminds of the Bastard game we just were in, where he was SK.

Ace: I don't like how he has basically been talking about game mechanics and shown no interest in hunting scum. However, I've read some games where he was in (last was space station) and I think this is part of his D1 play? Not entirely sure.

Radfield: He would not have shown up in this list was it not for sbrubbles points. I think they are very legit, and I look forward to Radfields reaction.

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On April 24 2012 06:16 phagga wrote:
If I counted right these are the current vote leaders:

marv: 4 votes
snarf: 3 votes
Zentor: 2 votes

the rest is 1 vote or less.

I'm off to bed in about 10 mins, need to get out early again tomorrow.

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On April 25 2012 22:35 Ace wrote:
A normal Townie = a person trying to actually survive a lynch.

Why does How player A defends himself even matter here? It could be the worst defense of all time, but the fact that he even tried in stark contrast to a player who doesn't goes a long way.

Really, your defense is "I've seen him do this one time before, and I don't believe Scum would do Scummy things so blatantly."

Where as some of us have deemed his behavior Scummy, so then yes more than likely he is Scum.

Screw it, let's lynch people for being too town. There is no way an actual Townie would have the balls to do that.

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On April 25 2012 22:57 prplhz wrote:
@Bluelightz What the hell "more power to you" mean?

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On April 25 2012 23:01 Bluelightz wrote:

IF ZENTOR WASNT LYNCHED TODAY, WHO WOULD YOU LYNCH AND WHY?

That's the question I'd like everyone (that has only voiced suspicion on Zentor today) to answer.

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On April 25 2012 23:06 Ace wrote:


Irrelevant. I'm not answering this because it does nothing to further the game as its just throwing more names out there. Right now what is important is Mr.Zentor and your defense against him. Putting out more scum reads does nothing.

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On April 25 2012 23:00 Sbrubbles wrote:

3) Marvelosity:

Your play this game has been essencially inactivity and sheeping. During the D1 last-minute scramble, you were apathetic, were giving up on the game and pulled the newbie card. In fact, you did these things at 4 votes, which meant you weren't exactly in mortal danger (but close anyway). Now D2 you're being slightly more active, but the bandwagon on Zentor is already rolling, so you're not actually adding a lot to the discussion. It's hard to make a case on someone who doesn't have content precisely because you can't break down their arguments, but you not having content is exactly my point. You've been lurking and I think you're scum.
Also, I tried looking at your games and couldn't find any D1 lynches, but maybe I just missed it. Can you link to one?

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On April 25 2012 23:08 prplhz wrote:
@Ace You say that the case on MrZentor is essentially the post he made today where he promised content later, is that really the best there is in this thread after ~20 pages?

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On April 25 2012 22:48 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm, unvoting s&B, suspecting phagga. strongandbig is town, IMO.

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On April 25 2012 22:48 Bluelightz wrote:
Snarfs I'm waiting for his response.

##Unvote: strongandbig

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Blue's journey to phagga's first 4 post's

Post #1

Can't get a read of this one, simply telling that he'll read will be decided on his next post

Post #2

Hmm, recycling points



Random reads, did you guys notice that he just threw those reads out of nowhere? I think that he's trying to contribute random crap that means nothing to discussion, and he's even recycling some of the stuff like on his Ace points.

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[B]On April 23 2012 01:01 Bluelightz wrote:
Some further reasoning

Policy Lynch -> Easily avoided by scum, like LaLurkers avoided by being active, or LaLiars, hmm can't explain but it just saying that it will be hard to prove that they are lying without a DT check or something.

[b]I'll be sleeping now.

Last read: Toad hydra is town because he has started poking at people for possible scum slips and has been active.

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On April 25 2012 20:16 Bluelightz wrote:
Sup bros, my blue mind say's that The Zentor lynch is moving too easy ( as radfield has already mentioned).

For now, as a preemptive guess on who is scum it is:

Snarfs, strongandbig, and a veteran player.

Snarfs because:
Snarfs and s&b seem to be trying to distance themselves from each other, also that, he is pushing the easy targets today,

Next, I find it odd that he picked s&b out of all people to call out in his first few posts.
Lastly, I see a problem with how HE scum hunts,

I don't see how asking someone to explain their action's is an effective way to scum hunt, I think that it is easy for one to make one's action's look town.

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strongandbig because:

First, because oddly he picked Snarfs to make a case on, I feel that they are trying to distance themselves from each other, next, in his first post he spent an awful amount of space for a way for people to breaccrumb stuff -.-. Lastly, he made an awful sheep vote on Zentor.

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Honestly I think both could be town, but I have a feeling that there's scum in them, just maybe,

##Vote: strongandbig

For now.

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