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Bisu as terran in SC2 ? - Page 16

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 Befree   April 22 2012 17:34. Posts 643
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As a BW Protoss turned SC2 Terran, I support this move. I think it'd be a more fitting race for him too. A time to correct a mistake you made long ago!
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 Pulselol   Canada. April 22 2012 17:40. Posts 922
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Bisu no longer with Aiur.

This is a great disappointment for me.
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 DeekZ   Australia. April 22 2012 17:51. Posts 221
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I'd be psyched to see Bisu as Terran, and aslong as Flash remains terran I'll be happy.
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 Windwaker   April 22 2012 17:53. Posts 908
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sounds very weird
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 Torenhire   United States. April 22 2012 17:54. Posts 9279
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It sounds weird but if you've played both games, Terran has a pretty similar feel to BW Protoss in SC2...I'm not surprised to be honest.
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 Norada   China. April 22 2012 20:02. Posts 341
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On April 22 2012 13:30 Rainfall7711 wrote:

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IF we are comparing to BW. The we simply say BW has a HIGHER skill ceiling. Saying that doesn't make the SC2 skill ceiling LOW. How many games have a skill ceiling higher than SC2? IF it's just BW i'd call that a high skill ceiling.


I did mean a lower skill ceiling compared to bw, because what other game is worth mentioning or comparing?

Of course you can make the argument that sc2 has a higher skill ceiling than hello kitty island adventure, so there's no reason to think in generalization, we're comparing the two games and scenes.

Also im not bashing sc2 in anyway, i was GM on china and america for awhile. It's just you will likely not see someone who will dominate since the skill ceiling is low(more hard counters, ways to beat people with cheese), , and it's all about the practice and learning about different situations. You wont see people dominating and it's the exact reason why you see so many people be bi-polar in their play.(switching between winning and losing)

I hope the new expansion can make things better though, sc1 was pretty shit but when BW came it was a lot better. Hoping for the same with sc2.
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  Plexa       Administrator       April 22 2012 20:04.Profile Blog # 

On April 22 2012 17:54 Torenhire wrote:
It sounds weird but if you've played both games, Terran has a pretty similar feel to BW Protoss in SC2...I'm not surprised to be honest.

Yes this is very true. Protoss in SC2 feels much more like Terran in SC1 oddly enough.
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 Kyrillion   Russian Federation. April 22 2012 21:20. Posts 575
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lol, do you realise that something is "low" when you compare it to something else?
I mean there's no way you can say Sc2 skill ceiling isn't/is low, unless you are comparing it to something, since we are in a RTS community, and the highest skill lies on BW, you are mentioning BW anyway.

Unless you live in a magical world where things that you can't measure have an absolute value, and a scale that measures how big/small that value is.


Of course skill ceiling is something absolute. A game has a high skill ceiling if one has to invest a lot of time and effort in order to attain a high level. It is low if mastering it (that is, not playing perfectly but almost) does not require a lot of time and effort. Imagine DOTA were the only video game left in the world, would it all of a sudden stop being a low-skill ceiling game ? It wouldn't.
And the reason why your reasoning does not work is that the skill ceiling of a game is per se considered from a human point of view. We could call a wall above 2 meters high, and below 1,5 m low and that would sound absurd as such, why does the change occur around 2m indeed ; but it is implied it's regarded from a human perspective. The same goes for games, all their features revolve around human ability.
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 kamikami   France. April 22 2012 22:33. Posts 1057
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Is this confirmed or only a rumor ? I'm not playing any ladder game now because I want to play the same race as Bisu. So is it confirmed that he will play Terran ?
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 wassbix   Canada. April 22 2012 22:42. Posts 496
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On April 22 2012 20:04 Plexa wrote:

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Yes this is very true. Protoss in SC2 feels much more like Terran in SC1 oddly enough.


Comedy answer is that all races in SC2 feels like BW toss is because all you need to do is 1a2a3a

Real answer is probably because SC2 terran has a aggressive opening of Banshee which feels very similar to 2gate dts, in which you expand behind very powerful aggression (that can end the game if unprepared) or bio openings that revolve around controling the center of the map.
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 maybenexttime   Poland. April 22 2012 23:26. Posts 3082
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On April 22 2012 22:33 kamikami wrote:
Is this confirmed or only a rumor ? I'm not playing any ladder game now because I want to play the same race as Bisu. So is it confirmed that he will play Terran ?


Play BW, problem solved. ^____^
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 Hazzyboy   Estonia. April 23 2012 00:01. Posts 512
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Maybe not a bad idea. Either way he would dominate!
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 See.Blue   United States. April 23 2012 00:03. Posts 2291
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Personally, I'm just excited to see effort beast it up with zergs. Especially some of the new HOTS units would be awesome :D
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 Zephos   United States. April 23 2012 00:32. Posts 71
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On April 22 2012 17:54 Torenhire wrote:
It sounds weird but if you've played both games, Terran has a pretty similar feel to BW Protoss in SC2...I'm not surprised to be honest.

I actually noticed this. When I tried out brood war, i didn't feel comfortable at all with toss and found myself gravitating towards terran. I think it's because in bw terran uses an immobile, high tech army and toss relies heavily on their tier one, which is obviously the opposite of how it plays out in sc2.
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  Xiphos   Canada. April 23 2012 00:44. Posts 5732Profile Blog # 

On April 23 2012 00:32 Zephos wrote:

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I actually noticed this. When I tried out brood war, i didn't feel comfortable at all with toss and found myself gravitating towards terran. I think it's because in bw terran uses an immobile, high tech army and toss relies heavily on their tier one, which is obviously the opposite of how it plays out in sc2.


I have a feeling that Terran in BW = Zerg in SC2. Both races focus on inching forward with careful alignment of units or buildings. One moves with impeccable Spider Mine placements and Tanks, the other utilize the Creep Spread ability in order to gain mobility advantage. But at the end of the day, they are just turtling up until a final push. SC2 Terran's army is way too fast.
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 Antisocialmunky   United States. April 23 2012 01:32. Posts 5067
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On April 22 2012 16:32 Skwid1g wrote:

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And casting for 8+ hours a day multiple times a week.


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 Fallians   Canada. April 23 2012 01:42. Posts 233
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On April 22 2012 20:04 Plexa wrote:

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Yes this is very true. Protoss in SC2 feels much more like Terran in SC1 oddly enough.


I always thought terran n BW was similar to zerg in SC2.. Maybe it's just me
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 covetousrat   April 23 2012 01:52. Posts 1183
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Bisu just lost a fan T_T
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 Antisocialmunky   United States. April 23 2012 01:55. Posts 5067
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On April 23 2012 01:42 Fallians wrote:

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I always thought terran n BW was similar to zerg in SC2.. Maybe it's just me


I've heard both but I've always thought that Terran plays more like Protoss than Zerg in SCII but either way, Terran doesn't play the whole unstoppable deathball style in SCII as well (unless you can get a crapton of thors)
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  Xiphos   Canada. April 23 2012 02:05. Posts 5732Profile Blog # 

On April 23 2012 01:55 Antisocialmunky wrote:

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I've heard both but I've always thought that Terran plays more like Protoss than Zerg in SCII but either way, Terran doesn't play the whole unstoppable deathball style in SCII as well (unless you can get a crapton of thors)


what about dem siege tanks? they are still pretty useful in the sequel.
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