| Fragile51 Netherlands. April 22 2012 05:10. Posts 15570 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.
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| Zane Romania. April 22 2012 05:10. Posts 3452 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.
They get exposure without having to invest in foreigners or teamless Koreans. |
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| flowSthead April 22 2012 05:10. Posts 1035 | Profile Blog # |
| TLO is playing pretty great. |
| | "You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby ■ MKP ■ SlayerS ■ oGs/TL █ | |
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| Lysanias Netherlands. April 22 2012 05:11. Posts 5729 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.
They might have plans to recruit ? I am sure there is a thought more behind it then only sending XlorD out there. |
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| ceaRshaf Romania. April 22 2012 05:11. Posts 4884 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:09 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:08 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:07 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:
I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o
It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?
He just won a BlizzCon lol :D
If by just won, you mean over a year ago.
Make that almost 2
Jeez time flies. Is it me, or is this LR thread particularly relaxed right now, its nice!
Many members are readying themselves for drama. |
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| MCDayC United Kingdom. April 22 2012 05:11. Posts 11808 | Profile # |
| Okay this stream is pretty frustrating. Bad obsing, and complementing TLO on how amazing his reaction was to the Stalkers, when the managed to cancel the 5th. |
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| Licit Sweden. April 22 2012 05:11. Posts 222 | Profile # |
Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0
Stim.tvLast edit: 2012-04-22 05:12:26 |
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| Eee Sweden. April 22 2012 05:12. Posts 2709 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:11 Licit wrote:
Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0
Stim.tv
Naugrim fighting! :D |
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| iAmJeffReY United States. April 22 2012 05:13. Posts 3385 | Profile # |
| Puma is so doing a 2 base 1-1-1. Fuck yes. |
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| Roe Canada. April 22 2012 05:13. Posts 5133 | Profile Blog # |
nice try mana haha
colossus attacking a stalker next to a burrowed roach, he just regens faster |
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| Kkxtrouble Brazil. April 22 2012 05:13. Posts 393 | Profile # |
| Hyun is fairly new in the sc2 scene, we don't really know what he's capable of, let's not take gis merit. |
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| Meteora.GB Canada. April 22 2012 05:14. Posts 2161 | Profile Blog # |
| 2 base timing from Puma it seems. |
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| Crownlol United States. April 22 2012 05:15. Posts 1369 | Profile Blog # | |
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| MCDayC United Kingdom. April 22 2012 05:15. Posts 11808 | Profile # |
WP TLO.
Mana still hasn't got a clue in PvZ it seems.Last edit: 2012-04-22 05:15:52 |
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 Wurstbrot Germany. April 22 2012 05:15. Posts 89 | Profile # |
| Anyone else thinks these score-overlays are the best in history of sc2? they look so nice, I love this simple style. |
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| Meantime Germany. April 22 2012 05:15. Posts 124 | Profile # |
| Damn, huge lag for me in the final engagement :/ |
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| Roe Canada. April 22 2012 05:15. Posts 5133 | Profile Blog # |
| TLO with infest+queen+ultra+brood smashes mana to win it! |
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| HotShizz France. April 22 2012 05:16. Posts 553 | Profile Blog # |
TLO :D !!!!!
2 2-0s... guaranteed to move on regardless of what happens with snute, right? Yay!! |
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| Grubbegrabbn Sweden. April 22 2012 05:17. Posts 148 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote:
This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.
15k to 35k+
15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not.
Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^
Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine. With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool.
esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.
With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.
This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel. The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.
Im pretty sure that smaller events in various sports pay to have big stars show up. Im thinking various tennis/athletics events. On the other hand, some sports have teams with ultra rich sponsors that pay for everything but that wont happen until your grandpa switches from wathching champions league to GSL... I guess.
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| Sonic Death Monkey Sweden. April 22 2012 05:17. Posts 958 | Profile # |
On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote:
This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.
15k to 35k+
15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not.
Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^
Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine. With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool.
esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.
With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.
This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel. The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.
I totally agree with that. My mind was blown by Sundance's statement on Live On Three, that someone needs to pay the price of the players travels, and that MLG might as well be the ones taking the losses. That's not how a sustainable business/industry is supposed to be run. You just don't voluntary take losses for some kind of altruistic reasons just because the teams are not well run enough. I'm not sure if he was FOS when making that statement or if that's actually the way MLG is reasoning.
From MLG:s perspective it's possible it makes sense to pay for travels, but that should basically be considered a subsidy from the prize pool to players/teams who are less likely to take part of the actual prize pool. That is, if they pay for travels, it should reduce the prize pool to compensate in a way that MLG are still not running a loss. If costs are increased in one area, they need to be reduced in others. |
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