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  l10f  *   United States. May 07 2012 08:10. Posts 3190Profile Blog # 

On May 07 2012 06:13 PaqMan wrote:
I'm taking my vote off NT for now.

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His post just seems so scummy. he just points out some people looking like scum because they jumped on "bandwagons", then pretty much says yeah these people all look scummy, blah blah BUT I VOTE LAYABOUT. Then he proceeds to use information that layabout already made clear to attack layabout, when if he had actually read layabout's posts it would be clear that nothing happened so far condemns him nowhere near how he's posting right now.

Reply to your other post, if I had to pick another person besides Eiii and ghost, I'd probably pick johnny since all of his posts are stating facts about other players but never condemning them himself, like his posts on kenpachi and papa. Also he said he'd be a lot more active since his other game is over, proceeded to be useless, then blamed a game he was addicted to for not contributing much.
HELLO!
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  l10f  *   United States. May 07 2012 08:10. Posts 3190Profile Blog # 
Oh also, it's L not i 10f
HELLO!
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 papapanda   Taiwan. May 07 2012 08:10. Posts 201
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Eiii, it seem like our lynch is just as effective as our vig shot; both died, both were vanilla depressed soldiers. layabout means vig shots might have a chance of being blocked by red-doctor(blue doctor too) and both are as easily affected by scum-fuence as the other.


At Paqman/layabout: layabout your defense is saying katina was talking sense, so even though DoYouHas came out with an analysis pointing katina as scum, you went with BM who wasn't making sense/playing the game?
"making sense" seems unclear to me as an explanation. Do you mean logical? not contradicting? knowing what's actually going on?

Most people are more or less logical. Anyone who is not would've been modkilled/lynched before BM.
Again, if one is contradicting in anyway, they will be lynched even before the illogical players.
No one really knows whats going on except the mafia in this game, especially in the early stages.

Layabout saying katina made sense is like saying raindrops are wet.

Please further clarify your defense for me.
Thanks.
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 layabout   United Kingdom. May 07 2012 10:00. Posts 1905
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@papapanda,
The number of players that make sense is far smaller than you appear to think it is. You should treasure the ones that do.

Johnnywub:
skim through his filter from Area 53 mafia
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=99700

These are some of his comments (+1 from host) after the game.
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The key things to note are that Johnny:
  • Posts a lot, this does not necessarily mean that we should expect him to have a massive filter but he does put a lot of time, thought and energy into the game as town.
  • He is concerned about communicating his ideas to others and convincing them
  • He is working to improve his town game
  • He feels like he owes town something

I see no signs of his town game so far.

johnnywub is sitting back and watching the thread. When i called him out he instantly de-lurked, said nothing, and left.

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"there is no such thing as an anti-town town member" -Sinensis
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 johnnywup   United States. May 07 2012 10:06. Posts 2743
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Like I said, I've been super addicted to this 999 game and I'll be putting a LOT more time into this game. I've been alt tabbing and reading what's going on, to keep up (I guess you can call that lurking but I've just been wanting to get all 6 endings to this game asap, but i'll town it down and be more active in thread now that I see it's an issue). If you don't believe me, fine. I don't care. It's the truth. And so, I'll be posting more now, since people are thinking I'm scummy and lurky :u
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 layabout   United Kingdom. May 07 2012 10:08. Posts 1905
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As i said. Johnny is watching us but not playing.

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"there is no such thing as an anti-town town member" -Sinensis
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  l10f  *   United States. May 07 2012 10:10. Posts 3190Profile Blog # 

On May 07 2012 10:06 johnnywup wrote:
Like I said, I've been super addicted to this 999 game and I'll be putting a LOT more time into this game. I've been alt tabbing and reading what's going on, to keep up (I guess you can call that lurking but I've just been wanting to get all 6 endings to this game asap, but i'll town it down and be more active in thread now that I see it's an issue). If you don't believe me, fine. I don't care. It's the truth. And so, I'll be posting more now, since people are thinking I'm scummy and lurky :u


Play mafia or I spoil everything on this thread >:D
HELLO!
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 johnnywup   United States. May 07 2012 10:11. Posts 2743
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Yeah, I'm watching. I guess you could say I'm not playing, or lurking, or whatever. But what I said is the truth. I'm a townie and I've just been super into a game. Anyways I'll make it up to you guys by playing much more from now on.
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 Blazinghand   United States. May 07 2012 10:24. Posts 12200
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On May 07 2012 10:11 johnnywup wrote:
Yeah, I'm watching. I guess you could say I'm not playing, or lurking, or whatever. But what I said is the truth. I'm a townie and I've just been super into a game. Anyways I'll make it up to you guys by playing much more from now on.


Assuming you are town, take a moment to contemplate how your actions appear. Prolongued silence is just a terrible idea, not just for your own survival, but that of the town. If you're readying the thread and gather ideas, some of those should be shared. If you are somehow not intentionally derping us up here, consider that we need every head we can get to finger the scum, to mix our metaphors.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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  Sinensis   United States. May 07 2012 10:32. Posts 2503Profile Blog # 

On May 07 2012 05:55 PaqMan wrote:

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I did read your filter and your only FoS so far is on layabout.

And please explain this:

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Can you not read? I'll read it for you.

It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first.
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 layabout   United Kingdom. May 07 2012 10:51. Posts 1905
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On May 07 2012 10:32 Sinensis wrote:

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Can you not read? I'll read it for you.

It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first.


BlackRaven (Drazerk and Hassybaby hydra)

SomethingAwesome (Dirkzor and Mattchew hydra)
...
"there is no such thing as an anti-town town member" -Sinensis
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  Sinensis   United States. May 07 2012 10:59. Posts 2503Profile Blog # 
Oh sorry I got the hydra players mixed up. Disregard everything I said about BlackRaven.
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 DoYouHas   United States. May 07 2012 10:59. Posts 682
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Well that was a fair bit to catch up on. I'm largely abandoning my case against PaqMan in favor of pushing blubb.

Here is a summary of my points against PM:
-His votes on Grush and BM were poorly justified.
-He went after slOosh both when he was correct about sinani and when he was correct about Katina.
-He repeatedly brought up BH's mistakes in past games which I think served to undermine the town leadership role BH was establishing.
-Starting with this post Katina seemed like a buzzword for PM. Mentioning Katina seems to draw more attention from PM than is warranted IMO.

Those were the highlights of why I find PM suspicious.


Right now it seems as if most of the focus is going onto layabout and NT.

Layabout earned the attention he garnered but at the same time I think he defended himself fairly well and is producing content. I'm not going to vote him unless someone produces a clean and convincing case or summary of previous cases against him. (I will admit that my thoughts regarding layabout have become a little muddled.)

NT is also deservedly under threat. His play style seems so far off of what I saw from his Godfather play in the newbie I cohosted. I expected fairly spammy play from him. I would not be upset with him being lynched today in spite of his promises of more activity in the near future.

Blubb I think deserves to be thrust back into the frontrunners for today's lynch. I intend to do just that with my next post.
Guts? Determination? $5?
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 PaqMan   United States. May 07 2012 11:04. Posts 1403
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On May 07 2012 10:32 Sinensis wrote:

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Can you not read? I'll read it for you.

It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first.


I was curious as to how you could of played with BR in the past because he's a hydra and this is the only game played on that account.
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 johnnywup   United States. May 07 2012 11:12. Posts 2743
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now that DYH brought up Blubb, this post caught my eye...it's a bit old but it's interesting.




On May 03 2012 21:46 blubbdavid wrote:
papapanda, unable to even graps that he has a bit more time than just one day, ready to sacrifice me although there are better options like grush.
Till now, I have have defended myself better than grush, but papanda is willing to forgive grush for his action because he could be a semi-lurker. Like SA pointed out, reading minds for others, especially at such an early stage of the game is scummy.

Palmar: his play here compared to Liar Game Mafia is opposite. In one game he is interested and active, here, well...
Two options:
1. He has no special role here and therefore immediately lost interest.
2. He is scum, scumming scum.

(Note: he is sheeping Kenpachi here, whereas in the other game he is playing king lol)

grush is without doubt the scummiest player here, putting up a strong (read:nonexistant) defense.

##vote grush57


PALMAR IS SCUM SO I'M VOTING GRUSH.

If we assume blubb is scum here, his actions don't really have a scum agenda. But they don't really have a town agenda either. I don't get it. I don't know if that's scummy or townie or not alignment telling at all but it's just weird. ESPECIALLY since palmar flipped town. Palmar flipping town means that if blubb is scum, grush is almost definitely town. But even that doesn't make much sense because blubb made a semi-case on palmar. I don't see an agenda from town or scum here, it's just "I think one person is scum so I'm gonna vote for some other guy that I also think is scum but didn't make a case on". It's just ... weird
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 PaqMan   United States. May 07 2012 11:13. Posts 1403
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I don't like how big of a train that has started on NT, which is why I've taken my vote off.
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 PaqMan   United States. May 07 2012 13:19. Posts 1403
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Just found out that I'm probably going to miss the lynch.
I guess it doesn't bother anyone how fast a wagon formed on NT?
I don't feel comfortable putting my vote back onto him.

Hence this quote:

On May 06 2012 07:11 Kenpachi wrote:

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rofl are you kidding me


His only post since D2 started.
He ninja-voted D1, isn't contributing and the few posts he has are very lackluster. From what I understand Kenpachi is a veteran, yet he's been the least helpful out of everyone (excluding Froggynoddy, who is inactive).

Also this gem: + Show Spoiler +

He made his scum reads and calls out who he believes to be the remaining scum team. But he doesn't push for their lynch or pressure them or anything at all. As of now I think Kenpachi is a better option than NT.

##Vote Kenpachi

I'm hoping I'll make it back before the deadline but I'm not too sure.
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 Blazinghand   United States. May 07 2012 13:31. Posts 12200
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On May 07 2012 11:13 PaqMan wrote:
I don't like how big of a train that has started on NT, which is why I've taken my vote off.


On May 07 2012 13:19 PaqMan wrote:
Just found out that I'm probably going to miss the lynch.
I guess it doesn't bother anyone how fast a wagon formed on NT?
I don't feel comfortable putting my vote back onto him.



That's not sufficient reason to unvote, typically. What if NT is legitimately playing like some horribly scummy game?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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 Kenpachi   United States. May 07 2012 13:35. Posts 9008
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##vote PaqMan
I'm definitely in my zone.
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 Blazinghand   United States. May 07 2012 13:36. Posts 12200
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._.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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