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| johnnywup United States. May 07 2012 14:16. Posts 2743 | Profile Blog # |
| "i'm busy so you're scum"? is that what you're saying? |
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| Nova_Terra Switzerland. May 07 2012 14:16. Posts 1180 | Profile # |
On May 07 2012 13:55 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:53 Nova_Terra wrote: On May 07 2012 13:51 Blazinghand wrote: On May 07 2012 13:41 Nova_Terra wrote: Yes BH, but seriously what could my motivation be?
You're trying to hide and I called you out. Seems pretty obvious...
rofl, i mean how im called out and i cant/am not trying to(your thoughts) remedy the situation and instead ask for a pass by this does not make sense from a scum point of view
Yeah it does! You realize your actions are indefensible so you make some dirty, dirty appeal to IRL and asking for a pass. I'm not a teacher, I don't give out hall passes, you gotta earn them yourself by being useful. And you're not. ##unvote ##vote: Nova_Terra
Lol what... I'm not dumb. I wouldn't make inexcusable actions if I was scum. And I would legitimately defend myself. I don't see any reason a scum wouldnt defend himself instead of asking to not be killed |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:17. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 14:16 johnnywup wrote: "i'm busy so you're scum"? is that what you're saying?
cant read? |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:17. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # |
arghh i cant read im blind. im gonna make an assumption -johnnywup |
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| johnnywup United States. May 07 2012 14:20. Posts 2743 | Profile Blog # |
| wheres your evidence rather than saying die scum. i know i havent done much either but come on just saying im busy isn't a reason someone else is scum because that's all ive seen you say |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:21. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:21. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 13:37 Kenpachi wrote: lawl. excess mafia i guess.
been busy and decided to abuse that by making no posts to bait a scum. gg i asked for replacement
On May 07 2012 13:43 Kenpachi wrote: didnt even see that you voted me you're obviously mafia rofl.
protip, you dont accuse me of being scum. This is a method only i can use (because im kenpachi. no joke thats the legitimate reason) as im like, THE EASIEST target to after by far. Mafia always call me bad/useless/scum to gain easy townie credit but through the many games i played, its a foolproof method even i doubted that finds scum majority of the time.
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| johnnywup United States. May 07 2012 14:24. Posts 2743 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:25. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # |
huh? you're speaking too fast Kenpachi -johnnywup |
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| Blazinghand United States. May 07 2012 14:28. Posts 12119 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 14:16 Nova_Terra wrote: Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:55 Blazinghand wrote: On May 07 2012 13:53 Nova_Terra wrote: On May 07 2012 13:51 Blazinghand wrote: On May 07 2012 13:41 Nova_Terra wrote: Yes BH, but seriously what could my motivation be?
You're trying to hide and I called you out. Seems pretty obvious...
rofl, i mean how im called out and i cant/am not trying to(your thoughts) remedy the situation and instead ask for a pass by this does not make sense from a scum point of view
Yeah it does! You realize your actions are indefensible so you make some dirty, dirty appeal to IRL and asking for a pass. I'm not a teacher, I don't give out hall passes, you gotta earn them yourself by being useful. And you're not. ##unvote ##vote: Nova_Terra
Lol what... I'm not dumb. I wouldn't make inexcusable actions if I was scum. And I would legitimately defend myself. I don't see any reason a scum wouldnt defend himself instead of asking to not be killed
That's not a legitimate argument. After all, if you really think scum wouldn't do that... wouldn't you do that as scum and make this argument? Being useless can never be defended, only mitigated by being useful going forwards. |
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| Nova_Terra Switzerland. May 07 2012 14:33. Posts 1180 | Profile # |
| No, as scum I would try my hardest to never get into this situation |
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| Blazinghand United States. May 07 2012 14:36. Posts 12119 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 14:33 Nova_Terra wrote: No, as scum I would try my hardest to never get into this situation
...as you should also as town, right? Getting lynched should be pretty low on your priority list regardless. It's not like somehow town players WANT to get lynched more. This is bad logic and you should stop using it. It's just making me look sexy |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:36. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # |
| so you just assumed a situation where you are helpless... |
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| Blazinghand United States. May 07 2012 14:36. Posts 12119 | Profile Blog # |
| EBWOP: It's just making me look sexier |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:37. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Blazinghand United States. May 07 2012 14:37. Posts 12119 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Kenpachi United States. May 07 2012 14:38. Posts 9007 | Profile Blog # |
| lets rid of NT. then PaqMan since theres a wagon rolling. im even more convinced hes mafia now. |
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| SomethingAwesome Kiribati. May 07 2012 17:04. Posts 58 | Profile # |
On May 07 2012 14:05 DoYouHas wrote:Part 1I suppose I should start with far and away the scummiest of blubbdavid's posts and then tack on all the extras after to seal the deal. Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 04:27 blubbdavid wrote:1. Somethingawesome, still think I am not scum? 2. How about you lynch me, or are you too cautious because it could reveal your whole scumplan? I need action, not words. 3. You are buddying up with layabout instead of scumhunting. Cast your vote on the one you think is the most scummy player. You say that I know layabout's alignment (mind reading), BUT: Is my concern illegitimate? You are circling around the actual matter: Why did layabout push BM so hard? Come on, tell me. 4. Furthermore: BM was a lurker, and yes, a lynch on him wouldn't have been out-of-normal, but the intensity with which layabout has pushed BM surprised me. And I have been pushing on lay since I saw that he wanted to policy lynch BM although he vowed not to policy lynch. about Palm: On May 03 2012 21:46 blubbdavid wrote:
Palmar: his play here compared to Liar Game Mafia is opposite. In one game he is interested and active, here, well... Two options: 1. He has no special role here and therefore immediately lost interest. 2. He is scum, scumming scum.
Seems like the first option was true. grush: I may have sheeped on this vote, I admit but I didn't sheep with the vote of layabout I want to see some action of you, SA.
1. This is awkwardly phrased considering SA had just said that he thinks blubb is scum. 2. Daring SA to try and lynch you? Where is this coming from? For someone who has played the "my bad, don't hold it against me" card as well as a "I give up" defense this is extremely out of character and scummy. Not only that, he states his read that SA is scum because SA doesn't want to vote for him yet which immediately makes his next statement absurd. 3. This is the part that really got me wanting to lynch blubb. Let us think about this ridiculous scenario that blubb has put forth between SA and layabout. Supposedly at this point blubb believes both SA and layabout to be scum, or at the very least highly suspicious. So in what world does it make sense that one scum(SA) is going to 'buddy' ANOTHER SCUM(laya), another scum who just happens to be under a fair bit of scrutiny atm. Even forgetting the scrutiny part it doesn't make sense. In blubb's attempt to defend against SA's claim that blubb seemed to know people's roles he slips again and gives us this buddying scenario. The only way that it can possibly make sense is if blubb KNOWS that layabout is town.4. Didn't sheep the vote of layabout, true, but then there is this: For someone who has been fixated on attacking others (mainly layabout) for pushing a BM lynch you were awful ready to jump on the train to secure the lynch. Part 2 Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:54 blubbdavid wrote: I am also willing to lynch BM if there's no majority on grush. But: What even more important is than lynching scum D1is obtaining information. A BM lynch wouldn't us give much info, assuming he is scum. I still want to see panda's take on grush before I set my vote in stone.
And lol, there's no way BM is going to be modkilled.
Seriously, obtaining information is more important than lynching scum D1 according to blubb. This is the reasoning he uses to say that BM was a bad lynch. This is just so incredibly wrong from a town POV. Lynch a lurker scum d1 you get all the info of the people fighting/pushing the lynch + the chance to get rid of a scum power + YOU JUST KILLED SCUM, CMON. Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. Well, jdup has made a good post regarding layabout's behaviour On May 06 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote: I think it is condemning, scum over-reacts to things like that (at least i think, ive never actually played scum). Of course laya didn't know kat would be modkilled, which is why it is condemning. If we didn't know kat's flip, it wouldn't be bad for either of them. It's just a townie pushing his reads on another person he thinks is townie, right? Since kat flipped, no. I don't know, the flip makes me think laya is more scummy. It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled.
blubb quotes JW's good post on laya's behavior and then does what? Reinforce a point(s) he liked? no. Expand or provide further analysis? no. What we get is this statement, "It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled." What purpose does this serve? This statement isn't, "I also think it took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled." or "If it took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled then...". I think that the lack of relevance paired with the certainty on something that shouldn't have been able to go past speculation makes this likely to be a scumslip. Part 3Inconsistencies and WIFOM: Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 19:31 blubbdavid wrote: I have no read on Nova, he is pretty neutral atm. And I will stop tunneling grush for the time being, maybe he will come up with something useful. Still, I would be interested in papapanda's opinion. And katina, do some scumhunting. What is your opinion on grush?
blubb calls out Katina which normally would mean that blubb would have taken note of Katina's past posts as well as be waiting for a response to this call out. Then we get this: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:36 blubbdavid wrote: ^yeah, everyone will probably jump a wagon. and layabout, you seem to be very very defensive, considering the fact that you only have 2 votes on you. I have to look into katina yet.
This is after I made my case and slOosh had switched his vote. A consistent blubb would already have been up to date on Katina and this comment would have been either been accepting, refuting, or critiquing my case instead of playing at being ignorant. WIFOM: Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:55 blubbdavid wrote: I have a suspicion: What if BM is scum, but doesn't want to play/ doesn't have time, so he sacrifices himself for the other scum?
There are a few more examples of each I could pull for this section, but I feel like I would just be diluting my argument.
TLDR: blubbdavid is scum, scumming scum ##Vote: blubbdavid
Quoting because people should really be reading this. And not let it get drowned in a flood of useless one-liners. Can we please get back to more substanciated posts? While I'm quite busy right now I won't write my own thoughts about Blubb right now. I've already written some yesterday and called him scum. DYH's case just do it so much better.
##Vote Blubbdavid
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Sinensis United States. May 07 2012 17:49. Posts 2503 | Profile Blog # |
I'm going to flip a coin. Heads is layabout, tails is NT: . .. ... Looks like it's Nova_Terra ##vote: Nova_Terra |
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| SomethingAwesome Kiribati. May 07 2012 19:23. Posts 58 | Profile # |
On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote: I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. --snipped--
On May 07 2012 03:27 blubbdavid wrote: Do I truly believe that you are scum? No. Is there a high possibility that you are scum? Yes. And you dodged my question by writing three lines of that say all the same thing.
Just a few quotes to add about Blubb.
The first one, why is he saying that about BH? He is basicly confirmed vig by now. No one have counter claimed and mafia don't have a night vig. He just want to paint anyone as scum and he fell over that little thing. But it doesn't make sense for a townie to call out BH on that...
Second one. Doesn't make sense. Either he think layabout is scum or not. It can't be both. If you think someone have a "high possibility" to flip scum you push them until they are lynched or dead. I've pushed people on a hunch but Blubb won't state that layabout is scum even though he think its a "high possibility"? You can't get a better read then "High possibility". He is not going all out because he already know layabout's allignment.
On May 07 2012 04:54 blubbdavid wrote: SA, you didn't answer that question about layabout that has been bugging me. It's even something that makes him townier in my eyes (still scum though), and yet you are unable to build on it.
And action = vote, calling somebody scum several times and not voting is definitely NOT action. It's more like "i make the impression i am active but i better wait till a wagon forms".
If layabouts push of BM makes him look townie to Blubb's eyes, how come he still think he is scum? Most other people who find layabout scum are because of the fact he pushed a lurker who flipped town (and layabouts katina defence thingy). Also, why is he asking me to "build" on something layabout did? How should I know?
All in all Blubbdavid is just throwing suspecion around because he don't care who gets lynched (besides his 2 mates).
Blubbdavid is scum.
Vote him now!
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