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| PaqMan United States. May 10 2012 12:22. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
#1
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It appears to me that you have expectations of me that you clearly do not have of others and that those expectations are not realistic ones. From the comments you make they would appear to be along these lines:
1. That a player should be voicing suspicions against a player for quite a period of time before posting a case and then voting.
2. That a player should be voicing all of the suspicions that they have
First off, wth are you talking about? Unrealistic expectations? I did not state that you should list every single suspicion you have, that's nothing close to what I said. What #1 in my case points out is that *drumline* You had made no previous mention of blubby except this: + Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2012 03:18 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 03:10 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I'm beginnging to like you Lay. Now find me scum! =)
What do you think about blubb? I think he is fishy...
here:
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. Well, jdup has made a good post regarding layabout's behaviour
On May 06 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote:
I think it is condemning, scum over-reacts to things like that (at least i think, ive never actually played scum). Of course laya didn't know kat would be modkilled, which is why it is condemning. If we didn't know kat's flip, it wouldn't be bad for either of them. It's just a townie pushing his reads on another person he thinks is townie, right? Since kat flipped, no. I don't know, the flip makes me think laya is more scummy.
It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled.
This is a strange thing to assert when as a townie you do not know who scum are and if they thought that Katina was coming back or not. Also when he votes for me he emphasises that it is to get me to answer his question.
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 20:32 blubbdavid wrote:layabout is scum. The question is: why would scum push BM? layabout was pushing BM so hard it was not even funny. Ok: layabaout, why were you so fucking desperate in pushing BM? till then, ##vote layabout
On May 06 2012 19:51 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:
I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f.
you wanna mess
He begins by saying that i am scum. If he believes this then surely that should be the reason for his vote. By saying that he wants a response he gives himself a way to back out of pushing me. If he truly believes that i am scum then he would have no reason to do this.
In which you no make no attempt to read his alignment. The most we can conclude from that post is that you think he's a strange townie. And yet, only a few hours after DYH made his case, you seemingly pulled a case out of nowhere agaisnt him and pushed it.
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To me the scummiest of the remaining players were Johnnywub and Blubbdavid.
Your scummiest reads at that time were jdub and blubb. You call out jdub: + Show Spoiler [seen here] +
On May 07 2012 10:00 layabout wrote:@papapanda, The number of players that make sense is far smaller than you appear to think it is. You should treasure the ones that do. Johnnywub:skim through his filter from Area 53 mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=99700These are some of his comments (+1 from host) after the game. + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 09:18 iGrok wrote:
Johnny is probably town MVP. Matt is scum MVP.
Also, well done by scum not to give up when St.Daniel got modkilled.
On May 05 2012 09:06 johnnywup wrote:
it was too late, i was away and it was 5:01. also fml i feel so shitty now. I had decent reads but I can't convey reads for shit.
On May 05 2012 09:28 johnnywup wrote:
im sorry i failed you town
On May 05 2012 09:35 johnnywup wrote:
bleh i feel so guilty for this game. if i conveyed my reads a little better or something i dont know but bleh
On May 05 2012 09:41 johnnywup wrote:
i thought you were scum mattchew and thats primarily because you allowed an ottox lynch with 2 confirmed scum. but no one listened to me so ugh
On May 05 2012 09:49 johnnywup wrote:
matt, the timing didn't make sense as town which was my second biggest issue. but no one listened to me. urghh
The key things to note are that Johnny: - Posts a lot, this does not necessarily mean that we should expect him to have a massive filter but he does put a lot of time, thought and energy into the game as town.
- He is concerned about communicating his ideas to others and convincing them
- He is working to improve his town game
- He feels like he owes town something
I see no signs of his town game so far. johnnywub is sitting back and watching the thread. When i called him out he instantly de-lurked, said nothing, and left. + Show Spoiler [Today's post's] +
On May 07 2012 04:45 johnnywup wrote:
I'll be completely honest, I've been addicted to that 999 game so I haven't been posting much.
Also I don't want any gold stars. i looked at a filter, saw something odd, pointed it out. that's what all town should be doing. Speaking of which I'm gonna look over some filters now. I'll report back when I have something substantial
On May 07 2012 04:52 johnnywup wrote:lol i love how NT says "it would be correct to be shooting into the lurker crowd" while lurking himself 
On May 07 2012 04:54 johnnywup wrote:
i just noticed that from your post and thought it was interesting. i guess it is rehashing. I'm just agreeing that it's strange and scummy
On May 07 2012 05:02 johnnywup wrote:
Paqman Marv BH and Mementoss are all saying the same thing at approximately the same time? weird, maybe you just agree with one another and want to quote it as if you found it yourself? O_o
However, you completely dropped johnnywub and instead pull a case (out of nowhere) against blubb, after DYH made his. What this looks like is that you couldn't pull support against Jdub. Instead, when it's obvious that townies would support a blubb mislynch, you pull out your own case and push forward.
+ Show Spoiler [p3] +Your entire spoiler: + Show Spoiler +You accuse me of jumping on blubb having not voiced suspicious of him.
let's add some context:
the vast majority of my posts occur in the evening for me and will nearly all lie in an 8 hour timeslot.
So early day1 i felt was largely wasted and i was not enjoying going through lot's of posts about nothing.
I returned to a divided and leaderless thread with what i viewed as a very small chance of lynching scum. So i tried to make the best of the situation and lynch BM (a lurker). I offered my opinion on what was being discussed.
I began my posting on day 2 (not including the hurried message in the early hours of the morning) by addressing the points raised against me. Whilst reading through them i looked over a number of players including blubbdavid. Almost immediately after i posted my defence SA asked me for my thoughts on blubb so i shared what i was suspicious of. I do not explicitly say "this is scummy" but i do highlight things that are.
After i seeing people cite reasons that i had already responded to and ask questions that were already answered and deliberately miss the point i grew frustrated. Angry, even. I looked at filters and what did i find? A bunch of inactives! Scoundrels that signed up and didn't really intend to play. People who offered little. People who offer almost nothing. People that are hard to analyse. But i made my scumreads. Johnnywub who was uncharacteristically watching the thread like a hawk but staying silent. And Blubbdavid who voted with questionable motivations.
So after responding to the points raised against me i wrote up what i had on Johnnywub and went to sleep. I woke up to find that the thread had moved at a snails pace, Johnnywub had no votes and DoYouHas had a case on Blubb, the main point of which was that blubb was posting as if he knew that i was town. This i something that i had wondered at and questioned in thread having looked at another of blubb's posts. is ALL fluff. What does that entire spoiler consist of? All it accomplishes is summarizing past events. If that is your point-of-view, it hasn't changed anything.
After i seeing people cite reasons that i had already responded to and ask questions that were already answered and deliberately miss the point i grew frustrated.
I have a strong feeling you copied that excuse from Marvel.
On May 09 2012 10:11 marvellosity wrote:
Yes, for example the much rehashed katina argument, and frustrated at the state of the game.
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I think my point here is that i made the decisions to defend myself and to push my reads.
Yes, if people have read through your filter and read every single one of your posts they'd see how much effort you put into defending yourself and how little effort you put into active scum hunting. Pushing your reads? Up to this point the only people you have pushed was BM and blubb. You did not push your own read, and you pushed blubb only after DYH made his case and it was obvious the blubb lynch was supported by other people.
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I feel that that post paints Johhny in a pretty damning light, and that his response to it painted him in a worse light. Maybe i should have added a vote or written that he is scum a few times for emphasis. I judged that my vote was likely to put a lot of people off of voting for Johnnywub, but that my analysis without a vote might be looked at a little more objectively. I also don't like voting halfway through the day but i prefer to vote towards the end when then has been more information available to aid my decision.
Your entire excuse here is addressed by spoiler p2
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kenpachi is pretty unreadable. Either you kill him of early, hope a vig shoots him or lynch him if you are sure that everyone else is town. He has a very anti-town playstyle. But lynching him is basically saying "i don't have any scumreads let's just kill this guy cus he is anti town. It's okay on day1 if your desperate. But past that you shouldn't be lynching him and pushing him over players that look scummy is somewhere between bad and anti-town since it is avoiding scumhunting. I would always call somebody out for a throwaway vote like that.
For reference^
But lynching him is basically saying "i don't have any scumreads let's just kill this guy cus he is anti town.
That is EXACTLY what happened with BM.
It's okay on day1 if your desperate.
And this is your justification for pushing the BM lynch but hard-defending KP...
But past that you shouldn't be lynching him and pushing him over players that look scummy is somewhere between bad and anti-town since it is avoiding scumhunting. I would always call somebody out for a throwaway vote like that.
I completely disagree with this. Avoiding scumhunting? BS. I didn't feel that the lynch candidates at that time weren't convincingly scummy and the cases against them weren't strong. I looked for an alternative that I felt was scummier, and guess what! My read was right! I would hardly call my actions "avoiding scumhunting". If anything, that is exactly what you are guilty of.
I would always call somebody out for a throwaway vote like that.
Did you? Nope. You pressured Froggynoddy into switching his vote, and that was it.
#5
BM wasn't even playing and i hope you understand why i tend to leave BM around (see point 4). So his comment is of little to no value.
As for Blubb, well i did vote for him didn't i?
what hurt me was that when he said that i posted my case against him while he was away, before posting i checked his post times and saw that he had been online at around the time i was posting.
I don't understand why you tend to leave BM around ? point 4 is your excuse for hard-defending KP and makes no mention of BM. I understand your reasons for wanting to get rid of him (they were the same reasons that I felt) but that in no way explains why you typically leave him around. His comment is valuable in that it highlights a difference in your gameplay.
As for blubb, well you weren't the only one who voted him? 8 other people voted him as well. And out of the people voting him, he felt you were scum.
Grush is the first time you're pushing your own read this entire game.
TL;DR you're scum and your points do not convince me otherwise. |
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| PaqMan United States. May 10 2012 12:43. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2012 12:08 Sinensis wrote:
Layabout keeps making compelling defenses... I am suddenly hesitant to keep my vote him. Especially since N_T is in the game; who hasn't made compelling posts to say the least and who hasn't put forth nearly as much effort.
The more I think about it though, nothing N_T does benefits scum... or town... or himself, so I am struggling here too. Do I choose the guy who talks nicer (layabout) or the guy who helps the enemy less (N_T)?
That's mostly the reason why I'm not that comfortable in lynching NT but confident with layabout. If you look into layabout, his actions this entire game benefit the scum agenda.
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| PaqMan United States. May 10 2012 13:26. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
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| layabout United Kingdom. May 11 2012 01:19. Posts 1908 | Profile Blog # |
Paq i tend to leave Bm around for the same reasons i would leave kenpachi or jackal or sinani around.
As both alignments they consistently posts in a fashion that makes them incredibly difficult(perhaps impossible) to read. They tend to look scummy and are often pushed by town and mafia alike. But lynching any player like that is rarely correct since they do hardly anything that allow you to work out their alignment. It's okay to kill them day1 but past that it's basically a blind lynch.
Why i am scummy for voting with a case? It is a common (and strong) play to build up evidence and present it when it amounts to something that is worth attention. You are holding me to a different standard than the rest of the players in the game and you are not being objective.
It's also quite silly for you to stress the "your own read" bit. What i think you mean is that i pushed players that others had voiced suspicions about. Which makes sense when you consider the number of players in the game, the number of players that each player will announce suspicions of or push, the number of obvious townies that no one is going to push and the fact that players are more likely to push the scummiest few players in the game.+ Show Spoiler [blah blah blah] + For instance say there are 20 people alive. There is likely to beat least 6-10 players that look quite town, there will be yourself. Of the remaining 9-13 players you can expect maybe half a to look scummy whilst the rest will either be barely playing or hard to judge.
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As a further note this thread had 12 hours in which none of the 12 people "playing" posted.
Good job!*
+ Show Spoiler +*this message may in fact be utterly sarcastic and is in fact trying to tell to you that you should stop signing up for games |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 11 2012 03:41. Posts 11502 | Profile # |
Where is everyone? I'm still confident in Nova_Terra flipping scum, not quite as much layabout anymore, whose posting looks quite reasonable. I get the feeling that layabout couldn't do anything at this stage to dissuade Paqman from his read. Nova's case on a dopey/misguided townie has not dissuaded me that he is scum at all.
Meanwhile on grush, first note this:
On May 10 2012 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
Beyond that I see a lot of "lol you're scum!" posts in various guises. And one-liners that literally say nothing. I can't see anything pro-town in his filter.
You scum grush? Or do you actually have a real case to make on somebody?
Since then:
On May 10 2012 09:59 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 08:53 layabout wrote:
and with yet another typo i bid you goodnight!
##vote grush57
Gl with that. Geez all the scummy players are voting for me :'( (Though nova went papapanda lol?)
On May 10 2012 10:03 grush57 wrote:
But yeah layabout is scum
##Vote: Layabout
In light of the last quote, I decided to check on grush's posting history re: layabout. We go from this:
On May 05 2012 05:50 grush57 wrote:
I don't think we should lynch katina or layabout or whoever posted the last couple pages with actual discussion.
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On May 09 2012 04:40 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 04:12 layabout wrote:
On May 09 2012 04:04 johnnywup wrote:
Personally, I think I'm a bad lynch. But that's probably because I'm the one dying. marv's post on me is true, I'm usually more active than this. That's for a number of reasons I don't think are really relevant to the game. laya had a "sudo-FoS" on me, but I agree the non-commital-ness isn't settling. It could be looking for a weak townie (which I will admit I am this game) to lynch. But it could be me looking legitimately scummy. I can see both perspectives. But since a wagon is somewhat forming I'd like to ask you what you gain if I flip scum or town. If I flip scum, you have a dead scum, but no info regarding the other scum-members. If I flip town, you get nothing. Best case scenario, you kill a scum. Worst case scenario, you kill a vanilla townie. Killing a VT at this stage in the game isn't too bad so if push comes to shove and you're lynching me, go ahead. Town won't lose that much. But the thing is, you lose a lynch to a townie and scum gets another 2 kills. If my death confirms other suspicions I'd lynch myself. But as of now it doesn't. Not to mention I have no scum motivations for anything I've done, which albeit is little.
I don't think you have any other reason to blame me as scum other than "unwillingness to post reads or post cases or be active". Which is all inherent in inactivity. I haven't been playing to my ability and I apologize.
Bleh this is just a train of thoughts :/
If you are town then i am leaving. I am sick of playing with people that refuse to put in the effort.
Why you aren't you scum? Don't you like easy lynches?
with nothing in between. A little later we might get some 'justification' (I use the word loosely)
On May 10 2012 05:21 grush57 wrote:
HAHAHAHAH well froggynoddy and layabout are confirmed scum, they just both went on my case as it was a coincidence, even though both cases suck. GL getting the town to lynch with you.
grush is crusading against layabout with nothing to back it up. There's no nothing to back anything up ever in his filter really.
grush57 is scum. |
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 03:56. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 03:41 marvellosity wrote:Where is everyone? I'm still confident in Nova_Terra flipping scum, not quite as much layabout anymore, whose posting looks quite reasonable. I get the feeling that layabout couldn't do anything at this stage to dissuade Paqman from his read. Nova's case on a dopey/misguided townie has not dissuaded me that he is scum at all. Meanwhile on grush, first note this:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
Beyond that I see a lot of "lol you're scum!" posts in various guises. And one-liners that literally say nothing. I can't see anything pro-town in his filter.
You scum grush? Or do you actually have a real case to make on somebody?
Since then:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 09:59 grush57 wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:53 layabout wrote:
and with yet another typo i bid you goodnight!
##vote grush57
Gl with that. Geez all the scummy players are voting for me :'( (Though nova went papapanda lol?)
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 10:03 grush57 wrote:
But yeah layabout is scum
##Vote: Layabout
In light of the last quote, I decided to check on grush's posting history re: layabout. We go from this:
Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:50 grush57 wrote:
I don't think we should lynch katina or layabout or whoever posted the last couple pages with actual discussion.
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Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 04:40 grush57 wrote:
On May 09 2012 04:12 layabout wrote:
On May 09 2012 04:04 johnnywup wrote:
Personally, I think I'm a bad lynch. But that's probably because I'm the one dying. marv's post on me is true, I'm usually more active than this. That's for a number of reasons I don't think are really relevant to the game. laya had a "sudo-FoS" on me, but I agree the non-commital-ness isn't settling. It could be looking for a weak townie (which I will admit I am this game) to lynch. But it could be me looking legitimately scummy. I can see both perspectives. But since a wagon is somewhat forming I'd like to ask you what you gain if I flip scum or town. If I flip scum, you have a dead scum, but no info regarding the other scum-members. If I flip town, you get nothing. Best case scenario, you kill a scum. Worst case scenario, you kill a vanilla townie. Killing a VT at this stage in the game isn't too bad so if push comes to shove and you're lynching me, go ahead. Town won't lose that much. But the thing is, you lose a lynch to a townie and scum gets another 2 kills. If my death confirms other suspicions I'd lynch myself. But as of now it doesn't. Not to mention I have no scum motivations for anything I've done, which albeit is little.
I don't think you have any other reason to blame me as scum other than "unwillingness to post reads or post cases or be active". Which is all inherent in inactivity. I haven't been playing to my ability and I apologize.
Bleh this is just a train of thoughts :/
If you are town then i am leaving. I am sick of playing with people that refuse to put in the effort.
Why you aren't you scum? Don't you like easy lynches?
with nothing in between. A little later we might get some 'justification' (I use the word loosely)
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 05:21 grush57 wrote:
HAHAHAHAH well froggynoddy and layabout are confirmed scum, they just both went on my case as it was a coincidence, even though both cases suck. GL getting the town to lynch with you.
grush is crusading against layabout with nothing to back it up. There's no nothing to back anything up ever in his filter really. grush57 is scum.
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote. |
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 03:57. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote.
As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today.
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:05. Posts 11502 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote.
As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today.
So do you think layabout is scum or not?
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 04:06. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 04:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote.
As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today.
So do you think layabout is scum or not?
Yep.
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:08. Posts 11502 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 04:06 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:05 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote.
As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today.
So do you think layabout is scum or not?
Yep.
For what reasons? I couldn't find any in your filter other than that he made a case on you.
Other than that - why do you then say "might just have to go to Nova vote"? what does that mean?
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 l10f  United States. May 11 2012 04:09. Posts 3190 | Profile Blog # |
| To not "throw away" my vote, I'll vote for grush, who I think has the most possibility of flipping scum out of him, layabout, and N_T |
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 04:13. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 04:09 l10f wrote:
To not "throw away" my vote, I'll vote for grush, who I think has the most possibility of flipping scum out of him, layabout, and N_T
Why are you contradicting yourself? |
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 04:13. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
| The fact that I have more votes for me than NT is quite disturbing. |
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 04:14. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
| Never mind marvellosity didn't vote for me. It's tied 3-3 |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:15. Posts 11502 | Profile # |
| Answer my questions, grush. |
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 04:16. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 04:15 marvellosity wrote:
Answer my questions, grush.
What question? Do I think layabout is scum? Yes. |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:16. Posts 11502 | Profile # |
Can't you read like 3 posts up?
On May 11 2012 04:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:06 grush57 wrote:
On May 11 2012 04:05 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:
On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote.
As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today.
So do you think layabout is scum or not?
Yep.
For what reasons? I couldn't find any in your filter other than that he made a case on you. Other than that - why do you then say "might just have to go to Nova vote"? what does that mean?
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| grush57 Korea (South). May 11 2012 04:23. Posts 2535 | Profile # |
Okay first layabout, only been gone over a million times, always siding with the scums and deflecting pressure off of them, contradicting, being scummy, voting for me with a shitty case filled with quotes of me one lining that doesn't suggest anything. Plus I actually have a chance of being lynched(I gaurantee atleast 1 of the scum are voting for me atm) and it would be disgraceful for another town flip. The scum are going for me because it is the best chance because I don't defend myself and only do one liners so it will be an easy lynch. Why isn't layabout making a case against Nova instead of me who was just lurking?(I started posting a lot once he made the case)
For question 2, I said that because Layabout is a pretty good scum, getting caught doing sooo many scummy things but is so convincing proving his innocence that even I almost fell for the trap and went for Nova. However, layabout is a better scum than Nova, so It would be better to get Layabout now.(However Nova just be a bad townie like me, however I seriously doubt it, more sure of Layabout being scum) |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:31. Posts 11502 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 04:23 grush57 wrote:
Okay first layabout, only been gone over a million times, always siding with the scums and deflecting pressure off of them, contradicting, being scummy, voting for me with a shitty case filled with quotes of me one lining that doesn't suggest anything. Plus I actually have a chance of being lynched(I gaurantee atleast 1 of the scum are voting for me atm) and it would be disgraceful for another town flip. The scum are going for me because it is the best chance because I don't defend myself and only do one liners so it will be an easy lynch. Why isn't layabout making a case against Nova instead of me who was just lurking?(I started posting a lot once he made the case)
For question 2, I said that because Layabout is a pretty good scum, getting caught doing sooo many scummy things but is so convincing proving his innocence that even I almost fell for the trap and went for Nova. However, layabout is a better scum than Nova, so It would be better to get Layabout now.(However Nova just be a bad townie like me, however I seriously doubt it, more sure of Layabout being scum)
I dislike everything I've bolded. You admit you don't bother defending yourself, you admit you only do one-liners. Is layabout duty-bound to do a case on the other main lynch candidate?
And worst of all, you're only posting more because someone called you out! Did you not have the urge to do anything to contribute to town before that then? Or just happy doing fuck-all until someone calls you out for it? |
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