A Discourse on the Definition of Normal Games

I dont think you can balance a game around them without creating some role modifiers to make the game even more annoying. They are among the worst roles I've ever seen including Mad Hatters that set bombs off by suicide or lynch.

No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia

Palmar Iceland. May 22 2012 20:01. Posts 7582

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To clarify, my definition of a role that changes the flow of the game is anything that messes with the cycles, victory conditions, game rules etc.

Cultist that changes people's alignment is one example.
A lyncher that can immediately end the day is another.

However, there are certain roles that are borderline non-normal in closed setups, while they're ok in open or semi-open. Bus Drivers, Janitors, Virgins and Death Millers come to mind as roles that are very difficult to deal with in closed, but if accounted for they're not a problem.

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Palmar Iceland. May 22 2012 20:04. Posts 7582

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On May 22 2012 17:15 Ace wrote:
Palmar your game isn't balanced - Macho RoleCop + Busy Paramedic in that setup means the top 2 Town PRs can never interact in a low PR game

Just make the Rolecop normal since the BP can't consecutively prot him anyway

It's hardly unbalanced, but yeah, I changed the roleblocker to macho for an emphasis on it being an unusual role, it's not something like a finalized setup, just an example.

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Forumite Sweden. May 22 2012 21:30. Posts 2931

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On May 22 2012 20:01 Palmar wrote:
To clarify, my definition of a role that changes the flow of the game is anything that messes with the cycles, victory conditions, game rules etc.

Cultist that changes people's alignment is one example.
A lyncher that can immediately end the day is another.

However, there are certain roles that are borderline non-normal in closed setups, while they're ok in open or semi-open. Bus Drivers, Janitors, Virgins and Death Millers come to mind as roles that are very difficult to deal with in closed, but if accounted for they're not a problem.

Weird roles that are accounted for with other weird roles doesn´t make it a less weird game. It can still be balanced though.

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