| gruff Sweden. April 27 2012 00:10. Posts 1966 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 18:53 Thylacine wrote: Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 18:52 Zerg.Zilla wrote: So nowdays ur ass is going to jail for eating a fish?!... Yepp this whole world is going down the crapper...jesus christ...
a LIVE fish.
So what's the difference between using a rock to bash a fish's head in or leaving it on the ground to suffocate before you eat it or using you teeth as he did (he didn't swallow it alive) to kill it? It's certainly more gruesome but it's not like one is more humane than the other and as far as I know it isn't illegal to catch fish and eat in however you feel like. Is it because it's a pet? Is it because he did it for entertainment? Neither of those reasons are directly tied into the actual eating alive part. If it's actually the way he killed it you think is illegal that would make a whole bunch of the worlds population criminals.Last edit: 2012-04-27 00:13:16 |
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| DeepElemBlues United States. April 27 2012 00:12. Posts 3672 | Profile # |
| I guess it could be considered callous, killing the fish in that manner simply for shock entertainment value, but still, rising to the level of a crime seems a bit silly. |
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| CCitrus Canada. April 27 2012 00:16. Posts 162 | Profile # |
On April 27 2012 00:12 DeepElemBlues wrote: I guess it could be considered callous, killing the fish in that manner simply for shock entertainment value, but still, rising to the level of a crime seems a bit silly.
I was going to say this, but then this fine gentleman did it for me. |
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| r.Evo Germany. April 27 2012 00:17. Posts 5231 | Profile # |
On April 27 2012 00:10 gruff wrote: Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 18:53 Thylacine wrote: On April 26 2012 18:52 Zerg.Zilla wrote: So nowdays ur ass is going to jail for eating a fish?!... Yepp this whole world is going down the crapper...jesus christ...
a LIVE fish.
So what's the difference between using a rock to bash a fish's head in or leaving it on the ground to suffocate before you eat it or using you teeth as he did (he didn't swallow it alive) to kill it? It's certainly more gruesome but it's not like one is more humane than the other and as far as I know it isn't illegal to catch fish and eat in however you feel like. Is it because it's a pet? Is it because he did it for entertainment? Neither of those reasons are directly tied into the actual eating alive part. If it's actually the way he killed it you think is illegal that would make a whole bunch of the worlds population criminals.
Causing an animal pain if you want to use it as a source of food is unavoidable, but, in theory, should be kept to a minimum.
Causing an animal pain for entertainment can and should not be acceptable. Period.
I'm freely quoting Kundera here, but I agree with the premise that you can judge a society by how it treats those who have the least power in it. Do you think a society which says that causing an animal pain to show it off on your youtube channel (which you even make money from) is completely fine is one you want to live in? Are you fully aware of what possible consequences such a statement can have?Last edit: 2012-04-27 00:18:42 |
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| JitnikoVi Russian Federation. April 27 2012 00:38. Posts 396 | Profile # |
| this is quite overexagerrated imo, i mean its a goldfish, people flush them down the toilet all the time |
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misspo France. April 27 2012 00:40. Posts 28 | Profile # | |
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Thylacine Sweden. April 27 2012 00:44. Posts 882 | Profile # |
On April 27 2012 00:38 JitnikoVi wrote: this is quite overexagerrated imo, i mean its a goldfish, people flush them down the toilet all the time
That's also wrong, I don't think this is wrong tho |
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| TwilightStar United States. April 27 2012 00:46. Posts 637 | Profile Blog # |
I guess we should arrest larger fish for eating goldfish, just like this man has.
How can people be so stupid..
It's a fish.
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liberal April 27 2012 00:47. Posts 1116 | Profile # |
I had a snake that would only eat live fish. I fed the snake lots of goldfish. I guess that means I have dozens of counts of animal cruelty on my hands.
When I read stories like this and then see people in TL actually getting angry about it I always picture a crowd on south park yelling "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!" It's just childish. |
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| TangYiChen Korea (South). April 27 2012 00:50. Posts 194 | Profile # |
Kind of disgusting but to punish him with jailtime for it? Really? Should go see what goes on in Asian countries.
Something like (disgusting/gruesome story in spoiler): + Show Spoiler +I remember my Chinese friend (originally from China) said there was this delicacy thing where you had a live monkey, put his head through the middle of the table, used a chainsaw to cut his head open, and poured hot oil on its brain and ate it while it was screaming. |
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| Jojo131 Philippines. April 27 2012 00:53. Posts 1336 | Profile # |
On April 27 2012 00:50 TangYiChen wrote:Kind of disgusting but to punish him with jailtime for it? Really? Should go see what goes on in Asian countries. Something like (disgusting/gruesome story in spoiler): + Show Spoiler +I remember my Chinese friend (originally from China) said there was this delicacy thing where you had a live monkey, put his head through the middle of the table, used a chainsaw to cut his head open, and poured hot oil on its brain and ate it while it was screaming.
Just slap him on the wrist with a warning, maybe they just really want that 20k from him. Economy in disarray and whatnot. |
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| Slakter Sweden. April 27 2012 00:54. Posts 1847 | Profile # |
On April 27 2012 00:46 TwilightStar wrote: I guess we should arrest larger fish for eating goldfish, just like this man has.
How can people be so stupid..
It's a fish.
This logic is beyond stupid.
That's like saying that it's okay to hunt an endangered species just because other animals do it.Last edit: 2012-04-27 00:55:46 |
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| zJayy962 April 27 2012 00:56. Posts 1313 | Profile Blog # |
| Shouldn't we be arresting all the people who buy goldfish and let them die because of neglect? This is stupid. It's a fish. |
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| Rainbow Cuddles United States. April 27 2012 00:59. Posts 222 | Profile Blog # |
I had salt & pepper catfish last night. :\
Hope the fuzz doesn't come for me too. This is a bit ridiculous. You have to put limits on this kind of stuff somewhere... |
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| Zerksys United States. April 27 2012 01:17. Posts 560 | Profile Blog # |
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| Tewks44 United States. April 27 2012 01:21. Posts 1834 | Profile # |
I think it's kind of disgusting that this guy would eat a goldfish for shock value in an attempt to get attention, but I guess I'm just a softie.
And for all the people going "fish get eaten all the time" just... please... you and I both know this guy wasn't eating the fish for its nutritional value, so don't make it like that. I love fish, I love sushi, I love to eat many animals... that doesn't mean I'm okay with someone eating a live gold fish just to go "hey everyone! pay attention to me, I'm doing something shocking!" It's immature and childish. |
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| Ksyper Bulgaria. April 27 2012 01:22. Posts 663 | Profile Blog # |
I guess no one has ever heard of sushi :[ People are seriously getting retarded, I can't imagine what kind of dumb twat would see that video and say to himself " he deserves jail time for that" There are types of sushi that you eat the fish alive, nothing new here.
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| DannyJ United States. April 27 2012 01:24. Posts 3744 | Profile # |
| This dude is more creep than criminal. |
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| zJayy962 April 27 2012 01:24. Posts 1313 | Profile Blog # |
On April 27 2012 01:21 Tewks44 wrote: I think it's kind of disgusting that this guy would eat a goldfish for shock value in an attempt to get attention, but I guess I'm just a softie.
And for all the people going "fish get eaten all the time" just... please... you and I both know this guy wasn't eating the fish for its nutritional value, so don't make it like that. I love fish, I love sushi, I love to eat many animals... that doesn't mean I'm okay with someone eating a live gold fish just to go "hey everyone! pay attention to me, I'm doing something shocking!" It's immature and childish.
Type in 'UK fear factor' (or maybe you'd like to watch the US version) in google. Go watch the videos and see what people eat on that show for entertainment value. Now go tell the UK to arrest every person who participated in that show and organised it. Its absolutely immature and childish but people have been doing stupid shit for entertainment for thousands of years. |
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| Dark_Chill Canada. April 27 2012 01:30. Posts 1013 | Profile # |
Just gonna say this now, I see a lot of people coming up with responses like "it's fine as long as people do it for survival and not for amusement, like in the meat industry" but let me tell you, this argument is completely stupid. Animals are not butchered and prepared in cruel conditions for our survival specifically. It is done for a profit. As others have said, there are healthy alternatives out there which we could easily use for our survival, and not cause suffering (or at least not significant) to animals. The meat industry exists to make money from the sale of meat items, and do not have the idea "we are only doing this so that everyone has something they can eat, because without this, they wouldn't be able to". I'm not a vegetarian, but I don't delude myself into thinking that what I do is any worse than what he does (he eats a goldfish live, I support an industry that provides mass suffering to animals). Hell, what are we going to do next. What's your argument for not going to jail after hurting say, a ladybug? It's not smart enough? It doesn't feel pain? The first point brings up a scary thought where intelligence is the base for value, and I'm pretty sure that insects are not immune to pain. Sure, it can't bring us the morning paper or lick our hands, but that's a pretty poor argument. |
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