| Jampackedeon United States. April 26 2012 05:13. Posts 1297 | Profile # |
| Cannot WAIT. To see the best foreign zerg in the world compete in the GSL would be AWESOME, especially considering the struggle zergs have had this last season. |
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l3AK3D United States. April 26 2012 05:17. Posts 40 | Profile # |
| He won't do well at all. He should stick to the foreign tourneys. |
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| Kusuri Austria. April 26 2012 05:18. Posts 27 | Profile # |
| Oh yeah... Let's see how good he really is ;> |
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| Arkani Austria. April 26 2012 05:25. Posts 41 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:17 l3AK3D wrote: He won't do well at all. He should stick to the foreign tourneys.
im a stephano "fanboy" but somehow i feel the same way
anyways good luck stephano and please prove me wrong Last edit: 2012-04-26 05:25:27 |
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| yoigen Germany. April 26 2012 05:25. Posts 323 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:17 l3AK3D wrote: He won't do well at all. He should stick to the foreign tourneys.
How do you know?
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| FlukyS Ireland. April 26 2012 05:27. Posts 441 | Profile Blog # |
| I have to say I don't love the idea of seeding into Code S but if there is a player that deserves his chance at it id say it would be stephano he has been playing really good for months now and taking down loads of big names. |
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Waxangel United States. April 26 2012 05:29. Posts 19038 | Profile Blog # |
| bah, now we're out of a free article |
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| hugman Sweden. April 26 2012 05:32. Posts 4591 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:04 Lordanubis wrote: Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 04:58 tuho12345 wrote: On April 26 2012 04:52 Lordanubis wrote:Great news, and absolutely well deserved. Stephano is by FAR the best foreigner around, and I really look forward to seeing him tear it up in Code S 
lmao, lets see if he could do better than Nani right now in code S r8. Stephano's fans make me dislike him lol.
Not really a Stephano fanboy, just realistic. If you look at their records over the past several months, Stepahno's is far better than Naniwa's. The ELO alone shows that much, and if you watch the two play I'd say it's hard to deny that Stephano is the better player. I play Protoss myself, but I don't mind admitting that. I'll back any foreigner that gets to Code S at the end of the day. Right now though, Stephano is the one I'd say realistically has the best chance to get the farthest. Naniwa has done very well to get so far this season, and I'm happy for him. Could you really say realistically he's one of the top 8 players in the world though? I'm not sure. Not sure I could completely say that about Stephano either, mind you. But Stephano would certainly be higher up on that list than Naniwa for me.
I think that Stephano is better just based on results, but I think Naniwa's play is more impressive when he plays his best because he often does these super technical builds and executes them perfectly. I mean, both of them have really good decision making and crisis management which is fun to watch. Maybe Protoss just lends itself more to more technical stuff. |
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| Cokefreak Finland. April 26 2012 05:34. Posts 5662 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:29 Waxangel wrote: bah, now we're out of a free article
Just make an article and delete this real quick so nobody will notice  |
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| PopcornColonel United States. April 26 2012 05:35. Posts 650 | Profile # |
| That's so awesome. Congrats to Stephano. |
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| Koshi Belgium. April 26 2012 05:35. Posts 6753 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Galetmonster Sweden. April 26 2012 05:35. Posts 147 | Profile # |
| I thought they stopped doing this shit? Stephano has not prooved himself just by playing polt in finals, if anything he should get code a |
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| Talin Montenegro. April 26 2012 05:36. Posts 8172 | Profile Blog # |
On April 26 2012 05:11 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 04:52 Talin wrote: On April 26 2012 04:38 `Zapdos wrote: On April 26 2012 04:33 Apolo wrote: On April 26 2012 03:05 StarVe wrote: Hmm, GOM has repeatedly invited Stephano to Code S as far as I know. He just declined every single time. It's not really big news that they offer him a seed again, now, it's just to be expected, if you like it or not.
The interesting thing this time is simply that the's actually considering taking it, because he wants to go to Korea anyway.
Obviously it's also a marketing move, but that doesn't mean it isn't also based on his results.
I'm no advocate of Code S seeds, but it seems like GOM won't stop giving them out anytime soon, so I can live with their decision to give it to Stephano of all players.
Why is it a marketing move ? (marketing noob here)
Because people like me who don't normally buy gsl tickets will probably pay for that season just to watch stephano and naniwa in the tourny. (Gets more foreign fans to cough up the doe)
Yeah, and if OGN invited Bisu to OSL every time he failed to qualify, they would have gotten a lot more interest too. But they don't. Because you just don't do things like that as a serious league. Compromising the integrity of the competition just to boost viewership makes GOM look cheap and untrustworthy. If they're willing to make exceptions like that, what else would they be willing to do when they decide they need more cash in the future? First it started with 4 Code A spots that you could only get through MLG results. Now we already have two Code S spots and the up/down and Code A spots seem even easier to get - it doesn't even matter whether they go to foreigners who never even tried to compete in Korea or Koreans that just got knocked OUT of the competition they're being invited back in. Hell, if Bisu publicly declared he was going to switch to SC2, they'd probably invite him as well. Show some freaking integrity, GOM.
Running a live stage international tournament without invites is difficult, running a live stage international league without invites is nigh impossible. OGN was able to get away with it because everyone who played in the OSL lived in Korea.
It doesn't matter. OGN's ratings would still be better with Bisu being constantly involved in everything than without him, so they're not getting away with anything (quite the opposite). If they wanted to, they could have invented some sort of a direct-qualifier wildcard or have fans vote a player in or come up with some other fancy PR scheme to justify it like "giving the fans what they want".
GSL isn't really global or international and it's never been that. Just looking at the format it's clearly not structured to be that. There is no legitimate qualifier tournament for foreigners (other than taking part in the actual qualifiers in Korea), there's no GSL EU or GSL NA, there's no fixed rules that apply to international players. They can call it whatever they like, but it's a Korean league based around Korean competitive scene. If I remember correctly they even said at some point that Code S seeds are "sponsor invites" for popular players - so they ended up inviting Sen.Last edit: 2012-04-26 05:38:14 |
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| gillon Sweden. April 26 2012 05:36. Posts 1420 | Profile Blog # |
On April 26 2012 03:02 aintz wrote: good stuff he deserves a seed even though i dont rly like him
How does he deserve a seed? How does anyone deserve this kind of seed? |
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| Grend April 26 2012 05:38. Posts 1537 | Profile Blog # |
Great stuff, he is the the other foreigner (+ Naniwa) that I can imagine being able to do well in the GSL at the moment. But he is smart, the chance of making money in the GSL seems small compared to playing some tournament. More time spent in harder competition for slightly more money compared to foreigner tournaments. |
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| gruff Sweden. April 26 2012 05:39. Posts 1961 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:35 Galetmonster wrote: I thought they stopped doing this shit? Stephano has not prooved himself just by playing polt in finals, if anything he should get code a
What made you think they have stop doing this? The invite of Idra, Sen or Naniwa? |
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| Taug United States. April 26 2012 05:40. Posts 134 | Profile # | |
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Sinensis United States. April 26 2012 05:40. Posts 2503 | Profile Blog # |
| This random seed puts a lot of pressure on Stephano to perform. I hope he does well. |
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| mememolly April 26 2012 05:40. Posts 4215 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:17 l3AK3D wrote: He won't do well at all. He should stick to the foreign tourneys.
those foreign tourneys filled with all those koreans you mean? k |
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| Galetmonster Sweden. April 26 2012 05:41. Posts 147 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 05:39 gruff wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On April 26 2012 05:35 Galetmonster wrote: I thought they stopped doing this shit? Stephano has not prooved himself just by playing polt in finals, if anything he should get code a
What made you think they have stop doing this? The invite of Idra, Sen or Naniwa?
Because everyone including players think that its stupid and unfair to get seeded right into code s, a shame really.
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