| Reborn8u United States. April 26 2012 12:12. Posts 1552 | Profile Blog # |
I can't believe people are actually sticking up for this. All of them should loose there jobs, any adult who was there and didn't blow the whistle is at fault. Treating an innocent child like that is just evil.
I'd bet some of you would feel differently if it was your child being treated like this. |
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| JBWKZ Vietnam. April 26 2012 12:23. Posts 6 | Profile # |
| that's awful. people can be so cruel sometimes... |
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| FlyingToilet United States. April 26 2012 12:26. Posts 731 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 12:12 Reborn8u wrote:
I can't believe people are actually sticking up for this. All of them should loose there jobs, any adult who was there and didn't blow the whistle is at fault. Treating an innocent child like that is just evil.
I'd bet some of you would feel differently if it was your child being treated like this.
Yeah i don't really understand why someone would, completely inhumane and just ignorant... not the people sticking up for the teachers i mean in all honesty no one should care what they have to say, but bringing a phone app with scary noises and asking the kid if hes possessed is just radical nonsense, there's a reason why religion isn't really allowed in school because of people making poor decisions and useless arguments breaking out. But teasing an autistic child with a phone app saying "are you possessed" is pretty sick, the staff that did that was probably abused or neglected as a child or something because i don't see how this is even funny. -_-Last edit: 2012-04-26 12:29:59 |
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 micronesia United States. April 26 2012 12:40. Posts 19315 | Profile Blog # |
It's hard to find teachers/aids who thrive in a self-contained classroom like that, for the pay/benefits/etc that they get. Generally (times might be a bit different right now) there isn't a backlog of qualified people waiting to take the jobs of the adults in that classroom. This makes it difficult to prevent these types of situations.
On April 26 2012 11:22 zakmaa wrote:
This is actually ridiculous. The fact that a teacher would do this is not so surprising to me, teachers are put under tremendous stress and are after all, people. And they make mistakes, even if they are consistent. That however does not excuse the action, I signed the petition because I think that she should be fired. She obviously isn't cut out to work with children, especially mentally disabled ones. I feel bad for her class.
What does surprise me, however, is how the union and/or principle and/or board of education reacted to the wire. They could easily listen to voices in real life and determine whether or not it is her. Alternatively, they themselves could wire the room for a day and listen in, if they don't believe it (assuming that's why she's not fired). But the fact that they are so reluctant to talk to Akian's parents or to do anything about this is truly what's surprising to me.
I hope something's done about this.
There are a lot of legal barriers to doing things like wiretapping a classroom... it's not really an option for the district. If they wanted to, they could regularly monitor the classroom in person, and do many other things, but it would require more work from the administration. |
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| Cyro United Kingdom. April 26 2012 12:43. Posts 5721 | Profile Blog # |
| Young teachers etc are generally careless and unprofessional.. ive seen a few even talk about a one night stand the night before in earshot of a class full of young children (~7-9yrs old?) |
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| Xevious United States. April 26 2012 13:06. Posts 1371 | Profile # |
| Oh wow, this being on the philip defranco show will get this a lot more publicity. |
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| lightrise United States. April 26 2012 13:10. Posts 1285 | Profile # |
| This is completely out of line. There should be no leniency for these aids and teachers. They should under no means be able to move to a different district. I cannot believe what I heard on this video. This is just straight appalling. I cannot understand how this could even occur really but the fact that it happens at a special ed class is sick. |
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| TheRealFluid United States. April 26 2012 13:12. Posts 486 | Profile # |
| Wtf? I've worked with a lot of developmentally disabled children and they tend to throw fits over simple things. But when you're just simply insulting them and not giving a care in the world, I don't know what to say. |
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| PanN United States. April 26 2012 13:12. Posts 2603 | Profile # |
| Disgusting people, fuck them. Hope they get what they deserve. Hope they get it hard. |
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| Saechiis Netherlands. April 26 2012 13:29. Posts 2883 | Profile Blog # |
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.
I wonder how many people were disappointed trying to report you. |
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| anycolourfloyd Australia. April 26 2012 13:29. Posts 424 | Profile # |
| one of the more moving videos i've seen.. at least the child is lucky to have an obviously loving and reasonable father. |
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| Aveng3r United States. April 26 2012 13:38. Posts 615 | Profile Blog # |
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.
Are you serious dude? You think a parent is going to say "Oh poop we had an autistic kid i guess we should just let him get bullied around while we try to have another kid"
That being said, this "teacher" should be fired right away. Kids with special needs should have a teacher who is even more gentle and understanding than your average person. I also think that the public apology that the father demands would be appropriate. |
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| Shakattak Canada. April 26 2012 13:43. Posts 911 | Profile Blog # |
| wow this just shows you how trashy people can be. |
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| Leporello United States. April 26 2012 13:45. Posts 1647 | Profile # |
Signed the petition. My mom was a special ed teacher. It is hard, demanding (and sometimes physical) work. Some parents can look for controversy and give teachers a hard time. I watched and listened with skepticism, but this father is 100% correct in his outrage. I hope he gets what he's looking for.
Off-topic: Only 4 pages, and I see the typical wanna-be mods who take time out of their busy day to parse and critique the OP's format like it really ******* matters. And then there's the social darwinist and modern philosopher telling us all exactly what's wrong with humanity (troll?). Really impressive work there, fellas. Way to go.Last edit: 2012-04-26 13:46:51 |
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| Guilty Canada. April 26 2012 13:50. Posts 745 | Profile Blog # |
| Watched the whole video and responses, and I must say the father is absolutely restrained, and I can only hope that I would be equal to the task if the situation came to me. Props. |
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| SupLilSon Malaysia. April 26 2012 13:57. Posts 3165 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 11:18 BlackJack wrote:
Not sure why this has gone viral. Yeah, she was inappropriate, rude, and not a very good teacher. On the other hand, someone was fired over it, the rest of the teachers seemed to receive some disciplinary action, and the behavior she displayed probably wouldn't even make the top 100 of terrible teachers for the year. Being a special needs teacher is also probably one of the hardest jobs in the world.
... This has nothing to do with the job being hard. There are tons of jobs which are more stressful than being a special ed teacher. This is a case of a teacher who obviously has no regard for the well being of her students. Shit like this happens all the time. Irresponsible people get jobs they should never be trusted with. Glad that the teacher lost her job as she deserved, however the others need to go as well. If I was a parent I wouldn't want a single one of those "educators" in my child's school. |
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| MadProbe United States. April 26 2012 13:57. Posts 179 | Profile # |
| fault lies with the people who hired those teachers |
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| jliu April 26 2012 13:58. Posts 264 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 11:21 screamingpalm wrote:
It was your "Inability is borne of weakness" that set me off I think. It is amazing to me how ignorant American society is sometimes. Some blame can probably be put on Christian conservatism, seeing the disabled as "cursed" or some such nonsense. The fascist condemnation of genetic imperfections and diabilities of this country set me off into a rage.
Now take into consideration that I have multiple sleeping disorders, which drain my energy and keep me from being productive in society. Unlike my mother, it is not a "physical" disability which I might be able to have some kind of control over and can put an effort to fight against.
I just wanted to insert that the lack of care for the marginalized probably is related to something other than American culture or even Christianity. If anything Christianity speaks against what popular culture would believe. If you check out John 9 in the bible, you'll see that disabled are not outcasts to God but are beloved and included in His purposes.
Inability is weakness, certainly, but when did our identities and personhood become reduced to what we can do, what we have, race, socioeconomic status, etc...? I think that's the real question. I deal with significant depression and anxiety and I can say that finding the answer to that question either frees you or condemns you. It's worth asking.
@ OP: Sad to hear, and I can hardly imagine hearing that kind of treatment toward your own flesh and blood. I'm sure having a child with autism is quite a journey for the parents and the child, a lot of which I can't fully understand just by watching the video. I worked with students with learning disabilities when I was in high school and it was easy to see that it was frustrating for the students and the teacher... it definitely takes a lot of patience. |
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| WhuazGoodJaggah Lesotho. April 26 2012 13:58. Posts 773 | Profile Blog # |
On April 26 2012 12:43 Cyro wrote:
Young teachers etc are generally careless and unprofessional.. ive seen a few even talk about a one night stand the night before in earshot of a class full of young children (~7-9yrs old?)
omg, they hear that people are having sex? they don't tell them that the bee was flying to the flower yesterday night? omg omg omg, thats like sooo horrible.
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| screamingpalm United States. April 26 2012 14:09. Posts 885 | Profile # |
On April 26 2012 13:58 jliu wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 11:21 screamingpalm wrote:
It was your "Inability is borne of weakness" that set me off I think. It is amazing to me how ignorant American society is sometimes. Some blame can probably be put on Christian conservatism, seeing the disabled as "cursed" or some such nonsense. The fascist condemnation of genetic imperfections and diabilities of this country set me off into a rage.
Now take into consideration that I have multiple sleeping disorders, which drain my energy and keep me from being productive in society. Unlike my mother, it is not a "physical" disability which I might be able to have some kind of control over and can put an effort to fight against.
I just wanted to insert that the lack of care for the marginalized probably is related to something other than American culture or even Christianity. If anything Christianity speaks against what popular culture would believe. If you check out John 9 in the bible, you'll see that disabled are not outcasts to God but are beloved and included in His purposes.
Agreed. I think it has more to do with the conservative perversion of Christianity that causes this. Not spirituality in itself.
Inability is weakness, certainly, but when did our identities and personhood become reduced to what we can do, what we have, race, socioeconomic status, etc...? I think that's the real question. I deal with significant depression and anxiety and I can say that finding the answer to that question either frees you or condemns you. It's worth asking.
The statement was "Inability is borne of weakness" which I totally disagree with from my experiences. Our productivity defining who we are is a very conservative mantra, one I constantly rail against. "Finding your answer" will never free you in American society, one that condemns such imperfections. Depression is a side effect of my sleep apnea and hypersomnia, both of which are seen as 'lazy', 'subhuman' and a 'drain on the system'. And I can't even afford to see a doctor to try to improve that lot in life- not to mention that it is dismissed as 'liberal medicene' by many.Last edit: 2012-04-26 15:09:47 |
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