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| zhurai United States. May 02 2012 12:50. Posts 5559 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca
so I somewhat doubt it? oo |
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| below66 United States. May 02 2012 12:56. Posts 1325 | Profile # |
Don't like KESPA at all, don't want them near sc2, but this is still exciting info nonetheless, we will see if it can all come full circle and take off with the release of HoTS.
A lot of pressure on blizzard now, if they deliver, the scene will blossom. |
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| Dontkillme Korea (South). May 02 2012 13:06. Posts 620 | Profile # |
| It's official. KeSpa and ongamenet recieved the license to run SCII proleague matches :D |
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| OopsOopsBaby Singapore. May 02 2012 13:06. Posts 2224 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays. |
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| Looms United States. May 02 2012 13:34. Posts 3985 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 13:06 OopsOopsBaby wrote:there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays.
you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays.Last edit: 2012-05-02 13:35:46 |
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| SolHeiM Sweden. May 02 2012 13:56. Posts 1260 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 13:34 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 13:06 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays.
you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays.
It's not so much that top pro gamers doesn't want to reveal their secret strategies, but they don't want to reveal their weaknesses. If Jaedong started streaming and Flash could just hop on his stream along with the rest of the KT team and in detail just break down his play and analyze every single weakness from Jaedong's own PoV, then Flash wouldn't just win, he would absolutely demolish Jaedong because he knows exactly what to do. |
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| Serpico May 02 2012 13:57. Posts 3930 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 13:34 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 13:06 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays.
you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays.
I doubt they would have the time or energy to stream ontop of their practice schedule, which will be different than what other teamhouses do now.Last edit: 2012-05-02 13:57:20 |
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| Looms United States. May 02 2012 14:04. Posts 3985 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 13:56 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 13:34 Looms wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:06 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays.
you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays.
It's not so much that top pro gamers doesn't want to reveal their secret strategies, but they don't want to reveal their weaknesses. If Jaedong started streaming and Flash could just hop on his stream along with the rest of the KT team and in detail just break down his play and analyze every single weakness from Jaedong's own PoV, then Flash wouldn't just win, he would absolutely demolish Jaedong because he knows exactly what to do.
oh i forgot to mention this part in my first post. i was talking about the lower level players still affiliated with KeSPA having the ability the stream, not TBLS, because those players have obvious reasons not to stream as you already mentioned. |
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| OptimusYale Korea (South). May 02 2012 14:05. Posts 978 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 11:54 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Here's the official hybrid integration process and solution:
Instead of playing alternating sets of BW and SC2, players will play matches between BW and SC2. We believe this will make for interesting games and bring both communities closer together.
Unit sounds and music will differ for each player and we will implement a new observer UI that allows the spectator or referee to choose between BW or SC2 music.
Our talks about this have all been fluff and rainbows until Dustin Browder insisted on adding at least 4 sets of Destructible Rocks on each tournament map. We gave him a large 4 piece puzzle to color in and as you all can see, he finished it while we agreed on the terms we presented you today.
We cannot tell you details or dates but we love us, each other and you!
More information soon to come when Dustin is done coloring the huge broken heart that says "BW Fans".
Thank you!
; )
This is so awesome hahaha!
Will foreign players be allowed to compete freely in the new tournaments or will it just be korean based?
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| Jinsho United Kingdom. May 02 2012 14:42. Posts 3023 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 13:56 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 13:34 Looms wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:06 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
there is no incentive for the players to stream even if kespa allows them to. they dont need the money from streaming and they rather not leak their plays.
you do know that you can pros can stream simply to gain more fans, interact with current fans, etc. also, i think a lot of people in the scene recognize that most pros dont leak secret builds or strategies while streaming, rather they use a lot of generic builds and plays.
It's not so much that top pro gamers doesn't want to reveal their secret strategies, but they don't want to reveal their weaknesses. If Jaedong started streaming and Flash could just hop on his stream along with the rest of the KT team and in detail just break down his play and analyze every single weakness from Jaedong's own PoV, then Flash wouldn't just win, he would absolutely demolish Jaedong because he knows exactly what to do.
Considering SC2 replays of those pros would instantly become available on all websites ever, nd anyone playing them on ladder would immediately see at least their build orders, there really isn't that much of a difference if they do stream, interact with their fans, gain more recognition with the current SC2 fanbase, and increase their brand.
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| Siffer United States. May 02 2012 14:50. Posts 467 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time. |
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| dark_dragoon10 United States. May 02 2012 14:58. Posts 292 | Profile # |
| Even if they can't stream if they choose to practice with the current SC2 champs who do stream we will still see them. Also in foreign tournaments we can see their replays to the fullest. I can't wait to jizz in my pants when I get to meet Flash and Jaedong (here to hoping Nal_Ra tags along) at an MLG. |
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| bhfberserk Canada. May 02 2012 15:08. Posts 229 | Profile # |
| I have a feeling that HOTS will be released before this year OCT for the full SC2 PL. by then the BW pros will be used to Sc2 and HOTS will reset the game. And will also advertise HOTS to the max on its release. |
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| windsupernova Mexico. May 02 2012 15:21. Posts 5272 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon |
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| McFeser United States. May 02 2012 15:24. Posts 2451 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon
Vivendi is like 18 billion and is larger than EA. So this is actually a sincere question - how much money is backing KESPA? |
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| Siffer United States. May 02 2012 15:39. Posts 467 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon
Blizzard owns the intellectual property. I can pretty much guarantee that blizzard is the reason why the switch to SC2 is 100%. You can have all the money in the world at your disposal; however, if you don't own a product, you are severely limited with what you can do with it. |
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| OopsOopsBaby Singapore. May 02 2012 15:42. Posts 2224 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 15:39 Siffer wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon
Blizzard owns the intellectual property. I can pretty much guarantee that blizzard is the reason why the switch to SC2 is 100%. You can have all the money in the world at your disposal; however, if you don't own a product, you are severely limited with what you can do with it.
kespa gave the players their jobs as progamers. |
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| Groog May 02 2012 15:48. Posts 127 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 15:24 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon
Vivendi is like 18 billion and is larger than EA. So this is actually a sincere question - how much money is backing KESPA?
Samsung is pretty big |
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| Fragile51 Netherlands. May 02 2012 15:52. Posts 15571 | Profile # |
On May 02 2012 15:48 Groog wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 15:24 McFeser wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon
Vivendi is like 18 billion and is larger than EA. So this is actually a sincere question - how much money is backing KESPA?
Samsung is pretty big
As are the Telecom companies backing KT and SKT1. There's a lot of money backing KESPA. |
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| Siffer United States. May 02 2012 16:05. Posts 467 | Profile Blog # |
On May 02 2012 15:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 15:39 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?
iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca so I somewhat doubt it? oo
I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.
Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon
Blizzard owns the intellectual property. I can pretty much guarantee that blizzard is the reason why the switch to SC2 is 100%. You can have all the money in the world at your disposal; however, if you don't own a product, you are severely limited with what you can do with it.
kespa gave the players their jobs as progamers.
And without a game to play, they are no longer progamers.
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