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[H] 1-1-1 build. what is a toss to do?

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 Peanutboobs   Denmark. April 27 2012 00:22. Posts 28
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So i am a mid diamond player who is struggling with terrans in my league doing the 1-1-1 build, usually i just go for an equal ammount of stalkers and zealots, and as many immortals and possible. but it just does not seem to be enough, what am i doing wrong.

I dont have any Replays on hand i will upload one when i loose another 1.
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 Wardi   England. April 27 2012 00:27. Posts 185
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You really shouldn't post until you have a replay; especially since there are already numerous threads on how to deal with the 1/1/1 build. If you use the search function you will find numerous threads which generally address the issue, which is the best people are going to be able to do due to the lack of information you have provided.

Hope this will get you to either develop your OP with a bit more info or to go find the threads on your own
 
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 Peanutboobs   Denmark. April 27 2012 00:28. Posts 28
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On April 27 2012 00:27 Wardi wrote:
You really shouldn't post until you have a replay; especially since there are already numerous threads on how to deal with the 1/1/1 build. If you use the search function you will find numerous threads which generally address the issue, which is the best people are going to be able to do due to the lack of information you have provided.

Hope this will get you to either develop your OP with a bit more info or to go find the threads on your own


Perhaps i am searching on the wrong stuff, but i just didnt seem to be able to find a topic about it

I will add a replay when i have one i just recently cleared my replay folder
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 TechSc2   Netherlands. April 27 2012 00:30. Posts 278
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Without replays best advice i can give is general advice:

the greedier you expo the better, if you are doing a 3 gate expo it's basically an auto loss against a 1-1-1, 16 nexus is basically a auto win against 1-1-1 but the safest FE is 1 gate expo where you take your robo at around 6:00

once you confirmed a 1-1-1 by scouting you should spend all your chrono on probes till you have 16 on minerals on both bases, and 2 gas geysers at your main ( so total of 38-40 probes) and you need to slam down a total of 5 gateways and constant immortal production.

You only need 2 stalkers per banshee that he is harassing you with, you will warp in stalkers whenever you cleaned up his ground army. So in essence you have around 4-8 stalkers, rest pure zealot sentry immortal for maximum gaurdian shield/FF usage.

Good way to engage is in a choke, ie where you opponent is in a choke and you are not. Simply because of the fact that he will hurt his own units with siege splash and you can FF behind the marines to keep them from kiting and killing off your zealots. If you are confident enough in your FF usage you can actually go out in the middle and force sieges to delay his push, every warp in you get you will pull ahead in units.
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 Wardi   England. April 27 2012 00:30. Posts 185
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250379

Extensive guide with a lot of discussion afterwards.
 
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 Chemist391   United States. April 27 2012 00:30. Posts 232
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On April 27 2012 00:28 Peanutboobs wrote:

I will add a replay when i have one i just recently cleared my replay folder


Critical mistake. Never do that.
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 Delta-V   New Zealand. April 27 2012 00:54. Posts 42
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I usually go 1-gate twilight expand into DT attempt harass, but if terran goes 1 base/1-1-1, I cancel DT shrine and rush HT+storm with cannons + lots of gateway units. Might not be the best way to stop it but it works for me as long as I don't screw up my micro.

If they are not expanding you will prob have to cut some probes. And don't be afraid to pull probes when they attack since you will end up ahead as long as you still have 2 nexus at the end of it, and 1 base saturation. If they have cloak you need to make sure you have a couple of cannons for detection, but they're good even if terran doesn't go for cloak.

It is very hard to stop 1-1-1 without splash damage so IMO you need to get either collossus or HT.
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 JDub   United States. April 27 2012 00:56. Posts 903
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On April 27 2012 00:30 TechSc2 wrote:
Without replays best advice i can give is general advice:

the greedier you expo the better, if you are doing a 3 gate expo it's basically an auto loss against a 1-1-1, 16 nexus is basically a auto win against 1-1-1 but the safest FE is 1 gate expo where you take your robo at around 6:00

once you confirmed a 1-1-1 by scouting you should spend all your chrono on probes till you have 16 on minerals on both bases, and 2 gas geysers at your main ( so total of 38-40 probes) and you need to slam down a total of 5 gateways and constant immortal production.

You only need 2 stalkers per banshee that he is harassing you with, you will warp in stalkers whenever you cleaned up his ground army. So in essence you have around 4-8 stalkers, rest pure zealot sentry immortal for maximum gaurdian shield/FF usage.

Good way to engage is in a choke, ie where you opponent is in a choke and you are not. Simply because of the fact that he will hurt his own units with siege splash and you can FF behind the marines to keep them from kiting and killing off your zealots. If you are confident enough in your FF usage you can actually go out in the middle and force sieges to delay his push, every warp in you get you will pull ahead in units.

This is really good advice. You said you make "equal amounts zealots and stalkers", but that is terrible. Stalkers get eaten for breakfast by siege tanks. You'll want to get up to 5 gates + 1 robo as fast as possible, and go zealot/sentry/immortal with only enough stalkers to deal with the banshees.

Post a replay asap though, otherwise this thread is pretty useless for you
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 EvilTeletubby   Baltimore, USA. April 27 2012 01:03. Posts 21022Profile Blog # 
Please read and adhere to the strategy forum guidelines before posting.
http://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** http://www.twitch.tv/jojosc2/b/315014581
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