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[IPL] FC15: MC vs Stephano - Page 25

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 Parlortricks   United States. April 29 2012 09:52. Posts 87
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On April 29 2012 09:51 Daray wrote:

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It wasn't 4gate but it was an all-in.

I wouldn't transition out either if I was pulling that far ahead.
 
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 Morrisson   April 29 2012 09:52. Posts 288
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arrogance? ogh god ppl are stupid. It was just a mistake, not arrogance. -.-
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 Kodak   United States. April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 157
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On April 29 2012 09:49 the`postman wrote:

And this is how people know you have a low understanding of the game, you don't notice the small things that separate GM players from the top professionals.


What are you on about? Just because somebody didn't find a game to be mindblowing doesn't mean they have no understanding of the game. The first game wasn't bad, but just because it's long and drawn out doesn't automatically make it a stellar match.

Yes, they're playing at a high level, but watching players posture for 20 minutes with negligible harassment isn't exactly exciting as a viewer.
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 Supah   April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 580
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On April 29 2012 09:51 Daray wrote:

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It wasn't 4gate but it was an all-in.


Not necessarily. The Stalkers are good since if the battles start going poorly, you can really book it before Speed pops. It's a strong pressure, and you're not committed as a Sentry/Zealot attack or even a 2 gas variation.
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 Monoamine   United States. April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 122
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On April 29 2012 09:47 KimJongChill wrote:
isnt this the build mc beat nestea with?

Yeah, he used it vs NesTea in Code S round of 32 on Dual Sight.
 
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 Heinsenzerg   Argentina. April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 612
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how can anyone hate on stephano....
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 mikedebo   Canada. April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 2935
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lol biggest forced segue into pitch ever!!
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 FataLe   New Zealand. April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 3622
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For those that were thinking it was pressure. No that was all in.
It's a 3 gate because he's makeing almost unanimously stalkers, this is because he saw late/no gas.
This build is all in because the protoss cannot afford 4 gates if he's producing stalkers non - stop. 3 Gates takes care of that.
hi. big fan.
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 whiterabbit   April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 2269
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After first game I was a bit afraid, but this is coming to right place as it should be. Phew!
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 ibo422   Belgium. April 29 2012 09:53. Posts 2044
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Nowadays, zergs really rely on those FFE's to go quick 3rd to stream shitloads of roaches to win without any micro. Do something different and it gets really amusing.
 
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 Lennient   April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 494
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hope Stephano makes a few builds to prepare for a bo9 like this, His build is solid, but you can't win all the time with just one build.
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 JitnikoVi   Russian Federation. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 396
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On April 29 2012 09:46 sc14s wrote:

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*sigh* i guess the since BW is dieing sc2 fans can turn on their elitist switch apparently.. you also have no clue what the other players understanding of the game.

Personally it was an avg GM level PvT late game i was watching that i can watch on the live stream tab... I am not saying the game was awful but it certainly wasn't mindblowingly amazing as all these people keep claiming.


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In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
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 jianming   April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 146
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On April 29 2012 09:53 Heinsenzerg wrote:
how can anyone hate on stephano....


People hate Stephano fanboys, not Stephano himself.
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 zestzorb   Thailand. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 704
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On April 29 2012 09:53 Heinsenzerg wrote:
how can anyone hate on stephano....


probably due to some of his fanboys
 
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 TheRhox   Canada. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 868
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On April 29 2012 09:52 Morrisson wrote:
arrogance? ogh god ppl are stupid. It was just a mistake, not arrogance. -.-


haha I know, these live report threads man.. sometimes they really make my brain hurt. I must be a masochist for reading this stuff
 
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 Jisall   United States. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 1538
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On April 29 2012 09:53 Heinsenzerg wrote:
how can anyone hate on stephano....


Because he's french..
No good reasons to hate on him, real nice guy.
(the french comment was a joke btw)
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 mordk   April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 7017
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Stephano seriously misread that. He thought more zealots were coming, queen/slowling with some spines works against early zealots, but not against stalker pressure. MC saw this mistake and decided to capitalize on it by allining. You can see that by watching the late forward pylon. MC wasn't originally intending to win with that.
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 Azarkon   United States. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 8052
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Stephano still doesn't know how to handle 3-4 gates off of one base. A lot of Zergs have forgotten how to beat this, but you have to get spines down quickly and get down a roach warren and speed. It's a thin timing back when Protoss were 4-gating during Beta but now the timing is thinner because Protoss have figured out how to micro their stalkers.
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 DarkPlasmaBall   United States. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 19998
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On April 29 2012 09:51 Daray wrote:

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It wasn't 4gate but it was an all-in.


That definitely wasn't an all-in. He originally planned to just do pressure, and then he committed more when he saw that he could actually kill Stephano, but if Stephano had ended up holding, MC wouldn't have lost the game (or even been behind, let alone very far behind) because Stephano had lost so much larvae to dead zerglings instead of drones and hypothetical mining time. Stephano had no tech, low drone count, and two bases.
"Those who can, teach. Those who can't, whine about teachers." ~Me
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  RUS RO DAH!!!   United States. April 29 2012 09:54. Posts 277Profile # 

On April 29 2012 09:53 Heinsenzerg wrote:
how can anyone hate on stephano....


If it makes you feel any better, I hate both players
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