Liar Game Mini Mafia

On May 04 2012 05:22 prplhz wrote:
hey i have some pms with radfield and now that he's gone i thought i'd just post them 'cause even sloosh seems confused

i also asked radfield why he voted for me but he didn't answer (before he /out'ed) so i'm not gonna post those

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On May 01 2012 09:24 chaoser wrote:
here, let me ask a question to you radfield. What's the difference between people in the minority and the majority? Minority can't die right? Why would you take away a threat to a player like that? It makes no sense.

If you have a system in place to make it so that round 2 proceeds in an orderly manner then everything works out perfectly. I sent this to WBG already but I'll post it here as well.

for round two, it's based on whoever has the lowest points will be lynched right? so I was thinking of basing it on a gradient system. Most scummy, no points. We then have the rest pass points in a system following the player order.

so lets say it's like 5 people in the majority and 1 person in the minority. that's 25 points. lets say we think a is mafia. so the players are a, b, c, d, e, f

we think f is townie so he's in minority cause we need one. we move onto round 2.

b gives all his points to c, c gives all his points to d, d gives to e, e gives to b. If we all circle then a will have zero points. even if mafia was trying to save a, the two teams members would have to give 6 points total to save him. Because of the circle system, there's no way a can make back the deficient with his 5 points for both his teammates; one of his teammates will be adjacent to someone without 5 votes. That person is also mafia then.

f will be giving his votes, spread as evenly as possible, into the crowd of b, c, d, e. If things look wrong then f is suspicious.

WBG suggested to me that we do it so that everyone only cycles 4 votes and they give their one vote to whomever they want so that accountability would be an element and I agree. There's no way a would be able to get out of this situation unless his teammates out themselves.

and thought i'd comment even though it's old

if there's only 1 guy in minority then at least 2 of any scum team is in majority. say A is mafia but so is his mate, C. so A trades 4 votes to D so that they're not missing, C trades his 4 votes that was meant for D to A and now everybody has 4 votes, which is clearly not desirable. now people are going to die unless they get more votes and with a 1 person minority that's somewhat unlikely to happen. if chaoser had only suggested the 5 votes vote circle then we would have been even more screwed, everybody would die except the people F decided to trade and F himself.

in short, this strategy is broken/crazy isn't it? or did i miss something i'm bad with plans. it seems like it only appears to be working because he chose a rather small example, with 17 player majority and 1 player minority this strategy would be crazy. with 10/8 i'm a little unsure why it would be desirable to take so much accountability and power away from majority and give it to minority, when you are the same time don't want to try to implement a plan that would make it more likely that the minority was mostly town aligned. seems like a 10/8 split would kind of ruin the idea of circle trading since everybody would die if A has a scum buddy in the minority

is there any voting plan for round A today?

i'm catching up!

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