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Alright after a little discussion we're just going to kill sandroba today. We just need scum dead at this point. There's gonna be another spreadsheet (under construction) which will get everyone to 8 votes except for sandroba (8 votes is the magic number safety number for today's lynch). Please hold your votes until then

Night everyone, I'll be back early PST and then again afternoon.

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prplhz Denmark. May 16 2012 19:44. Posts 3919

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I'll just let you guys know that I had a nightmare last night where sandroba flipped town.

Seriously.

Please don't hurt me...

Palmar Iceland. May 16 2012 22:09. Posts 7579

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rofl

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Palmar Iceland. May 17 2012 01:08. Posts 7579

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So if any townie feels like saving sandroba for the third time.. just... don't.

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gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 03:03. Posts 3087

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Voting System for Day 6

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http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/gonzaw1/Dibujo-38.jpg

Why this system?

Okay, I don't want to repeat everything I've said the last day so I'll just link it here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333034&currentpage=73#1451

Okay, basically sandroba will get 0 votes, and everybody else will get at least 8 votes.
If anybody gives sandroba any votes, they should be considered confirmed scum by now (although I don't know why anyone would want to give sandro votes).

sandro has to put his votes somewhere, so we might as well tell him where. We put sandro's votes with 1 on Katina, and 2 on Palmar/prplhz. That way, if sandro decides to do something funny, he won't be able to choose how many relative votes Palmar and prplhz have (as in, if prplhz would have 1 more vote than Palmar or 2). That way he can't really choose who to kill of them (if something REALLY weird happened, like 2 other scum outing themselves or something).

sandro is guaranteed to be lynched, even if 1 other person outs himself as scum. Why? Because if someone outs himself as scum to give sandro 5 votes, then sandro at worst can take out his 2 votes from Palmar and prplhz, putting them at Palmar-6 and prplhz-7. Since sandro would have 5 votes sandro would still get lynched.
So even if some scum decided to give sandro 5 votes to lynch someone else, sandro would be the only lynch today.

sandro, I'd advise you to just follow our plan and vote like that. There is nothing else you can do to survive today, so your votes are a total waste, so you might as well vote like we told you to.

We argued and decided to only kill sandro today, just so we can get an almost guaranteed scum lynch. We can worry about Palmar later. That's why I wouldn't want anything funny happening with Palmar so the only people voting for him are Meapak and prplhz (other than sandro of course).
Since prplhz might be a little bit suspicious, again I'm the one giving him 3 votes so someone else doesn't try something funny as well.

For instance, if Player X claims to give Palmar or prplhz 3 votes, then he can lie and give his 5 votes to sandroba. In that case, if sandro puts his votes elsewhere the lynch would be Palmar/prplhz alone and not sandro like we wanted.
Although that wouldn't suck since Palmar/prplhz dying isn't a bad thing, our objective today is killing sandro alone, so we just planned to make that thing happen and forget about the rest.
That's why only me/MZ are the other ones giving them votes.

With this voting system we tried to give myself 10 votes first, so no matter what I'm safe from the lynch (even if scum out themselves and shit). Then we tried to give everybody except sandro 8 votes, and then we tried to account for those weird scenarios I described above and accommodated the remaining votes to reflect that.

So, everybody okay with this plan? If so, you can start following it and vote

I don't see a reason why you wouldn't, so if you don't want to follow it state specific reasons not to, and if they are not satisfactory you'll be put under heavy scrutiny or even be considered scum.
Of course, if you say you'll follow the plan and vote otherwise later, we'll take it as a scum claim.

slOosh May 17 2012 03:58. Posts 1909

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Voted and waiting for good results.

Meapak_Ziphh United States. May 17 2012 05:05. Posts 4149

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This is the best way to ensure no shenanigans this time. We've had idiotic townies screw up two lynches now so hopefully we'll get this one right.

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gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 05:21. Posts 3087

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Yeah, I'm going to uni in a few minutes, and I'll be back 1-2 hours before the deadline (like usual)

If you have any questions ask Meapak or ET about them (again, like usual).

See ya

Katina United States. May 17 2012 07:07. Posts 454

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Have to leave early today so sent in my votes as planned

EchelonTee United States. May 17 2012 09:24. Posts 3403

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On May 17 2012 07:07 Katina wrote:
Have to leave early today so sent in my votes as planned

^

There shouldn't be anyone to randomly save Sandro this time... hoping we strike true.

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gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 11:03. Posts 3087

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On May 17 2012 09:24 EchelonTee wrote:

Show nested quote +

^

There shouldn't be anyone to randomly save Sandro this time... hoping we strike true.

Well, not only there shouldn't, but there can't be anyone to randomly save sandro this time. The numbers don't allow it

Anyways, just voted and hope you guys already did, gonna do some shit and be back in the deadline.

gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 12:02. Posts 3087

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Okay, we have an announcement to make, but we'll wait until after the Night Post is made, just in case someone decides to last-minute screw the voting right now (and maybe they are allowed or something, like Radfield's last minute votes on prplhz the other day)

Protactinium Canada. May 17 2012 13:31. Posts 550

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Night 6

Round B has concluded. The tally is as follows:

gonzaw (10) EchelonTee (3), slOosh (3), Katina (2), Mr. Wiggles (2)
slOosh (10) Katina (3), Palmar (3), EchelonTee (2), gonzaw (2)
Katina (9) Mr. Wiggles (3), Meapak_Ziphh (2), prplhz (2), slOosh (2)
sandroba (5) gonzaw (3), Meapak_Ziphh (2)
Palmar (3) prplhz (3)
prplhz (3) Palmar (2), Meapak_Ziphh (1)

Illegal votes:

Meapak_Ziphh (5) sandroba (5)

Palmar of the Harimoto cult was crowned with an 800 pound golden crown.
prplhz became his dog.

It is now Night 6. Night 6 ends in 24 hours at 8PM PDT (23:00 EDT (-04:00) your time). Please send in all your night actions before then.

Last edit: 2012-05-20 16:17:39

And so, we find the Sublime.

gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 13:37. Posts 3087

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Fuck yeah I knew we would get at least one scum!

Fucking sandroba fucking up our plan, had he just voted 2 on Palmar and 2 on prplhz he would have died.

Too bad about prplhz, with Palmar being scum it seemed pretty logical they were trying to protect each other

You see, my and MZ's votes are off, that's the "announcement" from before, I'll explain it in detail in a few moments

Meapak_Ziphh United States. May 17 2012 13:40. Posts 4149

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Sooo close to the triple -_-

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gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 13:47. Posts 3087

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Okay people, this is what we tried to do yesterday:

We weren't planning on killing sandroba alone at all, we were planning on killing all 3 of sandroba/Palmar/prplhz
After Cephiro's death, we quickly figured out Palmar was scum, and by that and considering prplhz's behaviour, we (or at least I) got very suspicious of him.

So on Round A we tried to organize the votes to get all 3 into the majority, or at least 2 of them. That's why me, Katina and sloosh would vote NO, while ET; MZ and Wiggles would vote YES. That meant that at least 2 of sandroba/Palmar/prplhz would get into the majority, and we would kill those who got there.

Once Palmar said he voted NO, I tried to get prplhz to vote NO as well (and PMed him that we would try to kill Wiggles and Palmar or some shit).
We were very surprised when all 3 were in the majority, and that's when MZ came up with a plan to kill all 3 of them.

The plan was to tell everybody to vote in a certain way that would get sandroba killed alone, while in fact we (me and MZ) would secretly vote differently to kill all 3 of them.

You may recognize this spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlDOJgSVEnnPdDZEWUlEU2w3YnpTU3Jid1ZfRVRiWGc#gid=0

It has the same votes I mentioned in the plan. Also notice the "Phony" in the title. That wasn't the real one at all, this one was:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlDOJgSVEnnPdDd4OU10S3JTc1EwZFAtQUtZSlJENXc#gid=0

The only votes that change are mine, and MZ's. However, the lynch would go from sandro alone to sandro+Palmar+prplhz.

sandro would get lynched only if he complied with us and gave Palmar/prplhz 2 votes. If we tried to make it like he already lost and his votes were a waste, then maybe he'd just give up and put them there as well.
We did know that maybe sandro would vote otherwise, which is why we made him put 2 votes on Palmar/prplhz, so if he didn't follow our plan, at least Palmar and prplhz would die.

Well, I was getting pretty excited because I wanted all 3 to die and expected them to die, but well, we finally got a Harimoto so we have plenty of info to use from now on.

gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 13:50. Posts 3087

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Also, I guess that now we CAN kill sandroba alone next. We can handle 2 Harimoto's later I think, specially if there won't be any more night kills for whatever reason.
Even if sandro is Harimoto it still works.

If there are no more night kills, I say we just get sandro lynched alone once and for all; if there are night kills, well then we need another multilynch (hopefully with sandro on it as well)

Meapak_Ziphh United States. May 17 2012 13:53. Posts 4149

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so wiggles is scum

Time to find that last member...

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gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 14:04. Posts 3087

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Although...had we just given sandro 3 votes we could have lynched him >_>

*sigh* hindsight is 20/20 and all.

gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 14:54. Posts 3087

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You know people, you are allowed to talk and shit.

Post your thoughts on the Palmar flip and our "plan" please.

We may try something similar in a next day, or maybe we won't.
Scum will just have to WIFOM about it every time we post a plan, and try to follow it and have the chance we'll fuck them secretly, or just out themselves by voting to save each other when they weren't actually in danger of dying.

Of course, all of that after we kill sandroba, that's for real this time (if we try to do another "secret" plan he'll fuck it up again, so no way we are letting him live any longer)