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| EchelonTee United States. May 17 2012 15:14. Posts 3404 | Profile # |
gonzaw carrying this team. good stuff.
I don't understand why sandroba is just blatantly not trying, voting for M_Z not even in the majority. I guess that gives more credence to the school of thought that he is yokoya, and has little to no chance left at winning.
Fun fact: almost all flipped scum tried to bash on Katina. |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. May 17 2012 15:17. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
Pfff, if it wasn't for the fact that there are 2 scum teams I'd tell them to surrender (I don't know how that works with several families though, both have to surrender at the same time to make it work or something?).
Unless there is 1 or more night kills each night from now on somehow, we have this game in the bag. |
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| Mr. Wiggles Canada. May 17 2012 15:42. Posts 4685 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2012 14:54 gonzaw wrote:
You know people, you are allowed to talk and shit.
Post your thoughts on the Palmar flip and our "plan" please.
We may try something similar in a next day, or maybe we won't.
Scum will just have to WIFOM about it every time we post a plan, and try to follow it and have the chance we'll fuck them secretly, or just out themselves by voting to save each other when they weren't actually in danger of dying.
Of course, all of that after we kill sandroba, that's for real this time (if we try to do another "secret" plan he'll fuck it up again, so no way we are letting him live any longer)
The palmar flip wasn't surprising at all. After syllo/WBG flipped, it was painfully obvious he was scum.
I don't think your plan was very good. Sure, we killed Palmar finally, but there was absolutely no discussion on prplhz in the thread. I didn't have a strong feeling that he was scum, and if you had actually bothered to make a case in the thread, I would have said so. I don't like that you're ready to flip people based on your own suspicions and with no discussion, as it can very easily lose us the game if you're wrong.
Why'd you keep your suspicions of prplhz out of the thread? |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. May 18 2012 00:39. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
On May 17 2012 15:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 14:54 gonzaw wrote:
You know people, you are allowed to talk and shit.
Post your thoughts on the Palmar flip and our "plan" please.
We may try something similar in a next day, or maybe we won't.
Scum will just have to WIFOM about it every time we post a plan, and try to follow it and have the chance we'll fuck them secretly, or just out themselves by voting to save each other when they weren't actually in danger of dying.
Of course, all of that after we kill sandroba, that's for real this time (if we try to do another "secret" plan he'll fuck it up again, so no way we are letting him live any longer)
The palmar flip wasn't surprising at all. After syllo/WBG flipped, it was painfully obvious he was scum. I don't think your plan was very good. Sure, we killed Palmar finally, but there was absolutely no discussion on prplhz in the thread. I didn't have a strong feeling that he was scum, and if you had actually bothered to make a case in the thread, I would have said so. I don't like that you're ready to flip people based on your own suspicions and with no discussion, as it can very easily lose us the game if you're wrong. Why'd you keep your suspicions of prplhz out of the thread?
Why would I keep my suspicions of prplhz out of the thread? Because 60% of you were scum that's why.
I only trust my reads with MZ and ET, and I discuss them with them. I'm not "ready to flip people based on my own suspicions", we talk things through, I'm not controlling the game like a dictator or anything.
I was suspicious of prplhz, because of:
1)His terrible Day 1 (read MZ's case on D1/N1 against prplhz for that)
2)Lack of contributions, lack of reads
3)The reads he had, he justified them only by saying "I'm sheeping syllo"
4)Unconditional support of Palmar without even stating why
5)Unconditional support of a SCUM Palmar without even stating why
6)Not only not cooperating with us (me/MZ/ET), but also going against our plans many times (like that time he gave Palmar 5 votes and saved him from the lynch)
It basically boils down to that.
Also, had we presented our read on prplhz last day, we wouldn't be able to perform our plan and try to get all 3 lynched, since scum would know something was off and may have tried to fuck up our plan in a different way (for instance Palmar or prplhz voting differently, or giving 5 votes to each other or something).
Well people, what I'm expecting of you (or at least from the townie out of you) is to post your reads and who you think the remaining 2 scum (other than sandro) are at the moment, and explain why.
Don't worry, we'll still only kill sandro tomorrow. If my guess is right and scum don't have any more KP, then we won't have any problems with that. We'll lynch sandro and then deal with the remaining 2 scum the next day (on D8) |
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| chaoser United States. May 18 2012 00:57. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On May 03 2012 14:40 syllogism wrote:
I'm pretty much certain that palmar is town. If he isn't, props to him I suppose but I would put him at 95+% town.
lol |
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| slOosh May 18 2012 01:05. Posts 1921 | Profile # |
Wow, did not expect that plan, worthy of a Akiyama ploy.
Just a few more pieces and the game will be solved:
Could I have some timestamps of when the conversation of the plan went down? I want to cross examine my PMs because something is fishy and I'm becoming pretty certain but more info doesn't hurt. |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. May 18 2012 01:14. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
What timestamps?
We were talking about killing prplhz/Palmar/etc on Night 5, and on Day 6 Round A we just decided how to get people to vote (NO/YES), and on Round B we decided the "plan". I don't know what else you mean. |
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| Katina United States. May 18 2012 02:12. Posts 454 | Profile # |
| How do you plan on guaranteeing to us that only sandroba will die tomorrow? |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. May 18 2012 03:02. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
| We'll see that tomorrow depending on what happens tonight. |
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| Katina United States. May 18 2012 03:26. Posts 454 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 03:02 gonzaw wrote:
We'll see that tomorrow depending on what happens tonight.
O.o I know this is called "liar" game mafia but that doesn't mean you have to be so blatant about it! |
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| prplhz Denmark. May 18 2012 05:14. Posts 3951 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 00:57 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 14:40 syllogism wrote:
I'm pretty much certain that palmar is town. If he isn't, props to him I suppose but I would put him at 95+% town.
lol
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| Meapak_Ziphh United States. May 18 2012 05:55. Posts 4152 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 03:26 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 03:02 gonzaw wrote:
We'll see that tomorrow depending on what happens tonight.
O.o I know this is called "liar" game mafia but that doesn't mean you have to be so blatant about it!
Actually yeah we kinda do :/
The plans for tomorrow are contingent on tonight. I hate to put it bluntly, but if you don't cooperate with us then we'll have no choice but to treat you as scum. |
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| EchelonTee United States. May 18 2012 06:38. Posts 3404 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 00:39 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 15:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On May 17 2012 14:54 gonzaw wrote:
You know people, you are allowed to talk and shit.
Post your thoughts on the Palmar flip and our "plan" please.
We may try something similar in a next day, or maybe we won't.
Scum will just have to WIFOM about it every time we post a plan, and try to follow it and have the chance we'll fuck them secretly, or just out themselves by voting to save each other when they weren't actually in danger of dying.
Of course, all of that after we kill sandroba, that's for real this time (if we try to do another "secret" plan he'll fuck it up again, so no way we are letting him live any longer)
The palmar flip wasn't surprising at all. After syllo/WBG flipped, it was painfully obvious he was scum. I don't think your plan was very good. Sure, we killed Palmar finally, but there was absolutely no discussion on prplhz in the thread. I didn't have a strong feeling that he was scum, and if you had actually bothered to make a case in the thread, I would have said so. I don't like that you're ready to flip people based on your own suspicions and with no discussion, as it can very easily lose us the game if you're wrong. Why'd you keep your suspicions of prplhz out of the thread?
Why would I keep my suspicions of prplhz out of the thread? Because 60% of you were scum that's why. I only trust my reads with MZ and ET, and I discuss them with them. I'm not "ready to flip people based on my own suspicions", we talk things through, I'm not controlling the game like a dictator or anything. I was suspicious of prplhz, because of: 1)His terrible Day 1 (read MZ's case on D1/N1 against prplhz for that) 2)Lack of contributions, lack of reads 3)The reads he had, he justified them only by saying "I'm sheeping syllo" 4)Unconditional support of Palmar without even stating why 5)Unconditional support of a SCUM Palmar without even stating why 6)Not only not cooperating with us (me/MZ/ET), but also going against our plans many times (like that time he gave Palmar 5 votes and saved him from the lynch) It basically boils down to that. Also, had we presented our read on prplhz last day, we wouldn't be able to perform our plan and try to get all 3 lynched, since scum would know something was off and may have tried to fuck up our plan in a different way (for instance Palmar or prplhz voting differently, or giving 5 votes to each other or something). Well people, what I'm expecting of you (or at least from the townie out of you) is to post your reads and who you think the remaining 2 scum (other than sandro) are at the moment, and explain why. Don't worry, we'll still only kill sandro tomorrow. If my guess is right and scum don't have any more KP, then we won't have any problems with that. We'll lynch sandro and then deal with the remaining 2 scum the next day (on D8)
+M_Z's suspicions of prplhz were well known and well documented; there had been a lot of discussion about prplhz already, and you might've noticed how syllo/Palmar considered prplhz "confirmed town" because he was willing to give them all of his votes. The logic was fairly sound, but over time, and with Palmar looking more scummy, the connection between them too was looking suspicious.
@Wiggles, I thought you would be more happy about the fact that your scum read got lynched. Sure we lost prplhz in the crossfire, but it seems like your just discrediting our circle. It's easy to say in hindsight "I didn't think he was scum, should've discussed it", but with a format like this (hidden votes influencing everything), some town secrecy is necessary to make plays. |
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| Katina United States. May 18 2012 08:06. Posts 454 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 05:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 03:26 Katina wrote:
On May 18 2012 03:02 gonzaw wrote:
We'll see that tomorrow depending on what happens tonight.
O.o I know this is called "liar" game mafia but that doesn't mean you have to be so blatant about it!
Actually yeah we kinda do :/ The plans for tomorrow are contingent on tonight. I hate to put it bluntly, but if you don't cooperate with us then we'll have no choice but to treat you as scum.
I have been cooperating from the start. It's not an issue of that. It's the fact that there are 7 people alive and 3 are mafia. Thus it's getting to the point where it's becoming likely that either you or gonzaw are mafia. I don't think either of you are, just going by the numbers. And if one of you are then we have a bigger problem on our hands than worrying about who the last mafia is or getting sandroba killed. |
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| slOosh May 18 2012 09:17. Posts 1921 | Profile # |
Just split the group down in half so that either sandroba or wiggles or both end up in majority.
7 players.
3 vote one way, 2 vote the other.
Either they split and it becomes 4-3 with 1 of them in majority, or they vote same and it ends up 5-2 or 3-4, in which case we can lynch both / one at time whatever.
Unless anyone doesn't think Wiggles is scum. Then you should be speaking and I don't understand what you could be thinking. |
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| slOosh May 18 2012 09:19. Posts 1921 | Profile # |
| Last part meaning anticipation of a possible situation where there are only townies in the majority. |
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| Protactinium Canada. May 18 2012 12:24. Posts 550 | Profile # |
![[image loading]](http://goninmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/liar_game_final_stage-still04.jpg) Day 7: Round A
Wait a second...are there any mafia left?
It is now Round A (Minority Voting).
The statement for today's game is:
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
― Oscar Wilde
If you agree with this statement, vote yes.
If you disagree with this statement, vote no.
Round A (Minority Round) ends in 24 hours at 8PM PDT (8PM PDT[local] your time). Please PM your vote (Yes/No) to me before then. |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. May 18 2012 12:31. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
Thought so. It seems scum don't have KP left or something
Okay, gonna discuss with MZ/ET some shit and then tell you guys how to vote to kill sandro. |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. May 18 2012 12:38. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
Nobody vote YES or NO yet!
We will come up with a plan soon enough, so don't be hasty
Consider this your warning |
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