| Ultr4rush Sweden. May 01 2012 07:37. Posts 29 | Profile # |
Just wow, Op taking this way to serious.. Its a very short segement and he makes this thread. I found it as a cute segement and nothing wrong with it.Last edit: 2012-05-01 07:39:46 |
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| paintfive May 01 2012 07:41. Posts 766 | Profile # |
I actually learned a bit from that sentry/immortal segment...... Did not know the optimal sentry count is 10. But really who gives a shit? |
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| HeroMystic United States. May 01 2012 07:47. Posts 894 | Profile # |
It's cute.
Seriously, that's all there is. There's no harming the players nor is there any such thing as putting herself up as sexual appeal. She is attractive yes, but she's not flaunting her chest everywhere for everyone to see.
All I see is a cute girl talking about Starcraft and makes -awesome- drawings. It's what I call a change of pace from all the action and analysis. |
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| felisconcolori United States. May 01 2012 07:47. Posts 2526 | Profile # |
It's better than staring at a countdown screen between matches. (Or ads.) Honestly, I only saw the one with the sentry earrings, which were really cute. It's good to be adding content, and it's early days yet - there's always a shaking down period and getting it down to a nice routine production that everyone is comfortable with doing.
I thought it went pretty well, and like the variety. |
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| dsousa United States. May 01 2012 07:58. Posts 962 | Profile # |
Any time a girl is involved in anything it is spoiled by this rampant over-analysis.
It was just a scripted piece, put on by people trying to make a good show. I applaud their effort.
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| Meerel Germany. May 01 2012 08:13. Posts 268 | Profile # |
why is this stupid thread still open, seriously in the last couple of days i noticed so many shitty totally unnecessary posts where i cant get my head around how stupid someone could actually be. its really no fun to read on tl anymore because it got destroyed by those overanalytic (female, professionalism, etc.) and stupid (everything involving macking a big thing out of what a progamer said) kids.
@op: cant u see how this thread could cleary piss soe totally off to actually doing another episode of these, when she knows every fuckign word will be put on the (gold balance?) by some nerdkids. just enjoy the game and the content that is created for free for you.
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| Ireniicus United Kingdom. May 01 2012 08:19. Posts 374 | Profile # |
I was really disappointed with NASL season 2 especially, but have stuck with them as a subscriber and I am very glad I did. The improvement in production this season is nothing short of meteoric and Soe's corner, sunday barcraft, the European, Korean and US updates are all exactly what I want to see. Added to that the inclusion of Bitterdam I feel they have caught up with IPL content where I am also a subscriber.
I would love it if they hired maybe someone like Apollo to do the European update and Khaldor or Wolf to do same for Korea but I understand funding only stretches so far. They have already done enough to secure my subscription for season 4.
Well done
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| figq May 01 2012 08:22. Posts 9625 | Profile Blog # |
On May 01 2012 07:35 Andrew2658 wrote: Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 06:22 figq wrote: On May 01 2012 04:58 Xeris wrote: On May 01 2012 04:46 JOJOsc2news wrote: I find the wording in the OP quite condescending and the points aren't necessarily backed up very well.
However, I do see where you are coming from. The first episode did come across as a little awkward and the concept behind it didn't seem to be clear (the build order part was unnecessary and the segment didn't really seem like a "How To Do: X Build"). I really wouldn't want this segment to be cut though. Soe is a really cool person and once she gets comfortable I think it is going to be amazing. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more drawings/paintings and maybe less script. It will get more natural and I do think it's a great idea to pick out very specific aspects of StarCraft II and shine a light on them.
I also like the idea of producing side content around the pure casting. It's entertaining and really makes for a great viewing experience.
NASL seems to be scripting a lot of the side content. I don't like that. Have faith in your presenters and give them more freedom.
We dont script it at all.
You do mean "the side content" (as in Gretorp's or Bitterdam's jokes), not Soe's Corner, right? Because if Soe (or anyone, really) speaks with such great historical detail just off the top of her head, I suggest they invite her to cast the GSL. :D
I think he means NASL doesn't script her content for her. I'm sure she wrote her own script to follow for the segment.
I wouldn't mind if someone else would write or help for the script, by the way - it doesn't really matter since it's a script either way and she does understand it. In any case, well done! |
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| dacimvrl Vatican City State. May 01 2012 08:36. Posts 538 | Profile # |
i like it when i watched MC steamrolling targa yesterday.
Oh, and she's a brilliant artist. |
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| Mastermyth Netherlands. May 01 2012 08:58. Posts 195 | Profile # |
| It's one thing to have a negative opinion on this, it's another to to start a thread with an over-analytical post, including a poll about whether or not it should remain, right after the VERY FIRST EPISODE. Seriously dude? Last edit: 2012-05-01 08:58:22 |
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| hersenen Belize. May 01 2012 09:09. Posts 176 | Profile # |
On May 01 2012 08:58 Mastermyth wrote: It's one thing to have a negative opinion on this, it's another to to start a thread with an over-analytical post, including a poll about whether or not it should remain, right after the VERY FIRST EPISODE. Seriously dude?
This. The original post strikes me as creepy and too much free time. |
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| IshinShishi Japan. May 01 2012 09:11. Posts 3381 | Profile # |
| She's awesome, as a terran masters player that watches plenty of sc2 every single day(though almost always only games involving terran), I didn't even know she was speaking mostly bogus, ergo, even if she's "analytically terrible" I doubt many would notice, now onto the good parts : lovely accent, gorgeous, is very good at drawing, and if anything I thought she did a much better job (even though it did seem scripted) than most involved in eSports in general, no exaggeration. |
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Liquid`TLO Germany. May 01 2012 09:17. Posts 587 | Profile Blog # |
| I think Soe is doing a great job, she wasnt very happy with the first episode herself and wants to improve the content in the future. It is a new format and she knows she has much to learn about sc2, but she is experienced and does not want to rely on looks or being girl to make content, but rather work on it and improve the quality. Looking forward on the next episode and hope to see more of Soe in SC2. |
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| ZenithM France. May 01 2012 09:19. Posts 8228 | Profile # |
| Huh, I thought it was pretty good. She even presented a relevant PvZ build quite accurately, not much to complain about. |
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| LittLeD Sweden. May 01 2012 09:44. Posts 7398 | Profile # |
| This surprised me in a positive way. Very informative and funny. Will make sure to watch more of these! |
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| Dunmer United Kingdom. May 01 2012 10:25. Posts 215 | Profile # |
| It doesnt matter who does it as long as they are easy to listen to and watch, as for content its good. I think to please the "hardcore" crew they could take key moments from the games that have just been played and talked about those situations. Such as an immortal bust that killed a fast exanding terran who was too greedy etc etc. You can talk about the BO advantage, why the toss did this, how the terran could hold it. I feel this kind of thing could help bring more in depth SC2 content, and who cares of she asks for help. Most people in SC2 could use some help when watching a replay. |
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| dacimvrl Vatican City State. May 01 2012 10:50. Posts 538 | Profile # |
| I definitely don't agree with the bashing. She did a decent job as a "first timer"? |
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| zEnVy United States. May 01 2012 12:03. Posts 445 | Profile # |
I can't believe the OP.
Go get a job or something. Why don't I follow you around and criticize everything you do and then broadcast it to the world? |
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| Versailles Canada. May 01 2012 12:40. Posts 107 | Profile Blog # |
Between the casters and now Soe, NASL seems to be trying to produce a number of these short videos for their YouTube channel. I think that there was one with Rotterdam talking about the EU SC2 scene, and I know Megumix has done one or two as well.
My only complaint with any of these videos is are any of them necessary? NASL's business goal is to be a premier SC2 league, and do these shorts further their aim? Sure, it's content, but does it add anything to the tournament? In my opinion, not really. We saw IPL do similar features such as the shorts "Eye on Esports" with Lani. Hell, just look at MLG's content production in Fall 2011 with F Slasher, SotG, Julie's Corner... I do think that a tournament producing a variety of extra content is good in theory, I don't think that it works as well as they'd like to think. While making short videos is a great way to use people already working for the NASL during down time, I wouldn't say that reaching out to outside individuals is the best use of resources.
Tournaments should focus on content that furthers their tournaments and business aims. We saw MLG slim their staff to do this. The NASL Sunday Showdown is a good example, too. Expand it with more in-depth interviews and fun, interacting with fans content. Focus on the tournament, not so much the random extras. While they are nice, they're not necessary. |
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| DonaldLee May 01 2012 12:52. Posts 586 | Profile # |
On May 01 2012 06:57 Darksidius wrote: One day girls will be able to post eSports videos without nerds with white-knight-syndrome shitting all over it. One day...
Um, do you not know what white knighting means? |
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