[NASL SSD] mouzCCMorroW vs EGIdrA - Page 16

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On May 05 2012 03:39 Benjamin99 wrote:


Plz explain why you think that and define Zerg mechanics?

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On May 05 2012 04:46 hanlonbro wrote:


He never misses injects, and has perfect macro. Like EVERY OTHER progamer has said, it's his mindset. I'd put IdrA's mechanics on par with DRG's. DRG just doesn't go on tilt and that is the difference.

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On May 05 2012 04:47 MrMercuG wrote:


So.... according to you IdrA when not on tilt is just as good as DRG? Lol?

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On May 05 2012 04:55 hanlonbro wrote:


You've probably never seen IdrA on a good day. When he gets to those 3 bases or more.

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On May 05 2012 04:55 hanlonbro wrote:


You've probably never seen IdrA on a good day. When he gets to those 3 bases or more.

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On May 05 2012 05:01 Firlefanz wrote:

Well a player that loses a lot before he can get to 3 bases or more isn't considered a good player i would say...

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On May 05 2012 04:46 hanlonbro wrote:


He never misses injects, and has perfect macro. Like EVERY OTHER progamer has said, it's his mindset. I'd put IdrA's mechanics on par with DRG's. DRG just doesn't go on tilt and that is the difference.

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On May 05 2012 04:46 hanlonbro wrote:


He never misses injects, and has perfect macro. Like EVERY OTHER progamer has said, it's his mindset. I'd put IdrA's mechanics on par with DRG's. DRG just doesn't go on tilt and that is the difference.

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On May 05 2012 05:43 Benjamin99 wrote:


Goto Youtupe and watch Stephano vs Idra in Korea and you can see how many injects Idra miss. Those games really hightlight the difference in macro. Idra dont got very good mechanics and hes macro are avarege. everyone can spam drones but mechanics also aplies when to make drones and when to make units.

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On May 05 2012 04:55 hanlonbro wrote:


You've probably never seen IdrA on a good day. When he gets to those 3 bases or more.

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On May 05 2012 05:58 CeriseCherries wrote:


people know what mechanics means... and its pretty much consensus that IdrA has very very good mechanics...

so in terms of that game several things should be noted:
1. mutas are a lot more micro intensive so idra should be a little behind on injects
2. that game was not won/lost off macro -_- what wound up happening is that stephano defended mutas without taking much damage, built up a bunch of queens to defend the hatches too, and then just attacked idra with more roaches and INFESTORS and queens agaist a limited amount of roaches + some blings + mutas... IdrA also got a little greedy taking the gold and presumably would have switched into infestor + roach production at that point once established. he got hit before that, and so his army, much of which was invested in mutas, didnt have enough killing power

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On May 05 2012 05:58 CeriseCherries wrote:


people know what mechanics means... and its pretty much consensus that IdrA has very very good mechanics...

so in terms of that game several things should be noted:
1. mutas are a lot more micro intensive so idra should be a little behind on injects
2. that game was not won/lost off macro -_- what wound up happening is that stephano defended mutas without taking much damage, built up a bunch of queens to defend the hatches too, and then just attacked idra with more roaches and INFESTORS and queens agaist a limited amount of roaches + some blings + mutas... IdrA also got a little greedy taking the gold and presumably would have switched into infestor + roach production at that point once established. he got hit before that, and so his army, much of which was invested in mutas, didnt have enough killing power

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On May 05 2012 04:46 hanlonbro wrote:


He never misses injects, and has perfect macro. Like EVERY OTHER progamer has said, it's his mindset. I'd put IdrA's mechanics on par with DRG's. DRG just doesn't go on tilt and that is the difference.

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On May 05 2012 06:39 Antithesis wrote:

Each of these 4 sentences is plain wrong.

Nobody who follows the scene a bit would suggest Idra was on par with good Koreans, let alone top level code S Koreans (DRG) at the moment, I don't know where you take this from. Please, name 5 pros who recently stated Idra was anywhere near those players.

Did you ever watch, for example, Losira stream? He's twice as fast as Idra, has way better macro, better micro, better multitasking, and, most importantly, way better decision making and game sense. There's such a huge gap between their play that you don't even need recent win statistics to see it. And that's true for any good Korean, DRG, Nestea, Leenock, whoever, you've to be delusional to think Idra was on their level even if he had a different attitude.

Also, Idra's macro is certainly "good", but it's nothing special that distinguishes him from every other pro. Most average foreigners are close to his level and Koreans obviously are stronger in general. This whole "Idra and his sick mechanics" thing primarily still lives because in the beta he had his korean training advantage and could go beyond 3 bases better than most other foreigners, but right now, playing against a 4-5 base Idra isn't different from playing against a 4-5 base Nerchio, Sheth, Morrow, Ret, anybody. And not to mention Stephano.

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