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 Chrispy   Canada. May 01 2012 18:59. Posts 2741
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On May 01 2012 18:05 Infundibulum wrote:
man that is a pretty big nerf to warwick's Q. i don't recall ww being a problem in competitive play, did i miss something?


Lol. Xin was trash tier competitive wise and they still nerfed him.
And these WW nerfs are way more justified, he is pretty damn annoying in lane.
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 beefhamburger   United States. May 01 2012 19:05. Posts 1819
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WW is like auto-ban status in EU apparently.
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 Eppa!   Sweden. May 01 2012 19:07. Posts 1374
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On May 01 2012 18:59 Chrispy wrote:

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Lol. Xin was trash tier competitive wise and they still nerfed him.
And these WW nerfs are way more justified, he is pretty damn annoying in lane.

They basically nerfed his lategame more. He is also not very strong in lane anyway and is super easy to counterpick. Compared to Yorick WW needed buffs.
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 zodde   Sweden. May 01 2012 19:10. Posts 781
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On May 01 2012 19:07 Eppa! wrote:

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They basically nerfed his lategame more. He is also not very strong in lane anyway and is super easy to counterpick. Compared to Yorick WW needed buffs.


Lanewick not strong? MMMMkay
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 Eppa!   Sweden. May 01 2012 19:18. Posts 1374
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Lanewick hasn't had good lane control since forever. If you rune properly and pick a champ that either has strong harass or strong sustain you will win in CS if you know how to play vs WW.
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 JackDino   Gabon. May 01 2012 19:21. Posts 3292
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On May 01 2012 19:18 Eppa! wrote:
Lanewick hasn't had good lane control since forever. If you rune properly and pick a champ that either has strong harass or strong sustain you will win in CS if you know how to play vs WW.

And then he just buys some armour or mr, whatever he needs and doesnt give a shit about your harass at a certain point. Not to mention his lane is incredibly easy to gank and even without farm he can still pick off out of position idiots with ult if someone else is nearby.
Also tiamats on riven so good.
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 Eppa!   Sweden. May 01 2012 19:33. Posts 1374
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On May 01 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote:

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And then he just buys some armour or mr, whatever he needs and doesnt give a shit about your harass at a certain point. Not to mention his lane is incredibly easy to gank and even without farm he can still pick off out of position idiots with ult if someone else is nearby.
Also tiamats on riven so good.

He isn't terrible but its not like he is some top tier top pick.
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 JackDino   Gabon. May 01 2012 19:34. Posts 3292
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On May 01 2012 19:33 Eppa! wrote:

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He isn't terrible but its not like he is some top tier top pick.

Mid/lategame warwick is actually one of the strongest champs lol. Pro players also saying warwick is one of the strongest if not the strongest top laner.
Last edit: 2012-05-01 19:34:29
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 HazMat   United States. May 01 2012 19:52. Posts 9197
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This is how you win with lanewick.
Does your jungler hate your guts and never gank your lane? No? Okay let him come top every minute for a kill.
He does? Okay gank mid every minute for a free kill.
Last edit: 2012-05-01 19:53:00
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 valheru   Australia. May 01 2012 19:52. Posts 789
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^ Yeah I remember wickd saying that. EDIT: Referring to jack dino but shake's right.

WW is strong he has stupid amounts of sustain and decent harass. His scaling if not great (I think it's pretty good) is at least decent. His ult is fucking stupid with an obscene CD with max CDR (which I build on him its reached with Shurelia;s and FH and Defense mastery) and the CDR gives him ALOT of Q spam which does good damage and he can permanently have W on.
He does run into mana issues early on so you can't harass a great deal.

EDIT: If I remember right endgame WW with the way I build him ends up on about 215 armour/mr and 2.8k health with 40% CDR, about 1.2 AtkSpd without W and ~130 damage not including wits.

Btw my build is boots 3 --> wits/glacial --> lvl2 boots --> philo stone (I can understand why you don't like this but I do) --> whatever you didn't get --> Shurelia's --> finish FH if you haven't/ work on FoN --> last item I find to be variable MBR works, GA is good, FM is also good.
Of course as with everything this is variable sometimes I have to go back with enough for philostone before I'm 'meant' to get it but I buy anyway or I get kindlegem first etc.
Last edit: 2012-05-01 20:00:40
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  Praetorial   United States. May 01 2012 19:54. Posts 3631Profile Blog # 
AAAA ZILEAN NERFS.

Why must Riot nerf my favorite mid?
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
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 Eppa!   Sweden. May 01 2012 19:58. Posts 1374
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On May 01 2012 19:34 JackDino wrote:

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Mid/lategame warwick is actually one of the strongest champs lol. Pro players also saying warwick is one of the strongest if not the strongest top laner.

Which ones? There is like nobody on EU that plays WW anymore.
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 JackDino   Gabon. May 01 2012 20:00. Posts 3292
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On May 01 2012 19:58 Eppa! wrote:

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Which ones? There is like nobody on EU that plays WW anymore.

The koreans atleast, and caught it on swag stream. Nobody plays ww on eu because he always banned apparently.
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 Eppa!   Sweden. May 01 2012 20:03. Posts 1374
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On May 01 2012 20:00 JackDino wrote:

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The koreans atleast, and caught it on swag stream. Nobody plays ww on eu because he always banned apparently.

In 3v3 maybe in 5v5 noway.
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 valheru   Australia. May 01 2012 20:06. Posts 789
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On May 01 2012 20:03 Eppa! wrote:

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In 3v3 maybe in 5v5 noway.


Would you care to say why you don't think he's strong?
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 ihasaKAROT   Netherlands. May 01 2012 20:19. Posts 3346
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On May 01 2012 19:54 Praetorial wrote:
AAAA ZILEAN NERFS.

Why must Riot nerf my favorite mid?


Not sure if troll or...
KCCO!
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 Mios   United States. May 01 2012 20:20. Posts 563
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server up. recommended spectator games are all customs with bots lol.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
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  Praetorial   United States. May 01 2012 20:30. Posts 3631Profile Blog # 

On May 01 2012 20:19 ihasaKAROT wrote:

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Not sure if troll or...


No, I'm genuinely upset I can't flush mana down a toilet at level one.
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 Eppa!   Sweden. May 01 2012 20:34. Posts 1374
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On May 01 2012 20:06 valheru wrote:

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Would you care to say why you don't think he's strong?

No AoE.
Weak pressure before big mana item (mostly glacial)
Ultimate is pretty good but once carry get qss it is really weak.
His damage is subpar compared to most popular bruisers.

He is not bad but he is not bbq good.
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 Dandel Ion   Austria. May 01 2012 20:39. Posts 5690
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On May 01 2012 20:34 Eppa! wrote:

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No AoE.
Weak pressure before big mana item (mostly glacial)
Ultimate is pretty good but once carry get qss it is really weak.
His damage is subpar compared to most popular bruisers.

He is not bad but he is not bbq good.


Great sustain
Great initiate
Can just kill opponent the moment he hits lvl 6
Forcing carries to build QSS is actually a plus
He can still do okay-ish damage while building pure tank


See, if I just list his good points, he suddenly looks OP.

I do know there are better tops though, dw.
The apple's gone, but there's always the core
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