| kuroshiroi June 14 2012 07:36. Posts 3149 | Profile # |
I have all the keys and running the .reg file only changed the APM key value. Still the same error. This is probably just some random error in my XP installation, I'll try fiddling around with permissions if you have no other ideas  |
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| skeldark Germany. June 14 2012 07:51. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 07:36 kuroshiroi wrote:I have all the keys and running the .reg file only changed the APM key value. Still the same error. This is probably just some random error in my XP installation, I'll try fiddling around with permissions if you have no other ideas
Nop. if its not the perrmissions i dont know what it is...
BTW: looks like i have a bug in the zoom function. |
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| kuroshiroi June 14 2012 07:56. Posts 3149 | Profile # |
I manually changed the StartModule key to 1 and got this: "FATALERROR Gameobserver: Failed, cant read windows registry!StartModule REG_DWORD 0x1 "
I.e. it seems to be reading it properly, just not doing anything with it? Could this possibly be an XP thing? I.e. different Windows versions handle registry things differently?
Maybe it's a java error...? |
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| skeldark Germany. June 14 2012 07:59. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 07:56 kuroshiroi wrote:
I manually changed the StartModule key to 1 and got this: "FATALERROR Gameobserver: Failed, cant read windows registry!StartModule REG_DWORD 0x1 "
I.e. it seems to be reading it properly, just not doing anything with it? Could this possibly be an XP thing? I.e. different Windows versions handle registry things differently?
Maybe it's a java error...?
got the problem, instead of
"StartModule REG_DWORD 0x1" he should just output "0x1"
looks like diffrent dll file handle the request diffrent.
i will check for this case and cut the beginning.
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| kuroshiroi June 14 2012 08:03. Posts 3149 | Profile # |
Oh, cool. Thanks!
The program had been working great (except when Battle.net is down, which seems to be very frequently) and all of a sudden this error popped up. I must have installed something that changed the behaviour |
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| Cheshyr United States. June 14 2012 11:51. Posts 75 | Profile # |
Just picked this up today, and i've got a newb question...
Under Analyzer, it says No, E-, and E+, and each gives a different interpretation of my MMR. What do these Analyzer settings mean? I'm a little out of date on the MMR discussion.
edit: Apologies; missed the link in your Theorie spoiler. reading it now. If there's a tldr explanation, I'm still interested. :-)Last edit: 2012-06-14 12:06:50 |
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| skeldark Germany. June 14 2012 12:20. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 11:51 Cheshyr wrote:
Just picked this up today, and i've got a newb question...
Under Analyzer, it says No, E-, and E+, and each gives a different interpretation of my MMR. What do these Analyzer settings mean? I'm a little out of date on the MMR discussion.
edit: Apologies; missed the link in your Theorie spoiler. reading it now. If there's a tldr explanation, I'm still interested. :-)
tldr is under
Help - Options - Analyser
No Analyser Shows DMMR instead of MMR
Analyser E- Use caped games aswell. Less accurate but can use more games
Analyser E+ Best Analyser but can only use small % of the data. It can take a while until he have enough data to show a graph Last edit: 2012-06-14 12:23:53 |
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| Cheshyr United States. June 14 2012 12:27. Posts 75 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 12:20 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 11:51 Cheshyr wrote:
Just picked this up today, and i've got a newb question...
Under Analyzer, it says No, E-, and E+, and each gives a different interpretation of my MMR. What do these Analyzer settings mean? I'm a little out of date on the MMR discussion.
edit: Apologies; missed the link in your Theorie spoiler. reading it now. If there's a tldr explanation, I'm still interested. :-)
tldr is under Help - Options - Analyser No Analyser Shows DMMR instead of MMR Analyser E- Use caped games aswell. Less accurate but can use more games Analyser E+ Best Analyser but can only use small % of the data. It can take a while until he have enough data to show a graph
Derp. I fail at RTFM. Thank you for the explanation, and the excellent tool.Last edit: 2012-06-14 12:28:02 |
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| thclown420 United States. June 15 2012 03:44. Posts 1 | Profile # |
Excelent work guys! Even if its not 100% accurate, its still something to go by. Plus, judging by the frequency of updates, I can tell yall are dedicated to getting it right.
I have a suggestion of sorts. I'd imagine yall would like some feedback as to how accurate things are right? So what if like there were a way to let yall know.. "hey, i just got pro/demoted" so that you could compare it to the promotion lines in your app. Just a thought.... Keep up the good work!
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| AmericanUmlaut Germany. June 15 2012 03:49. Posts 2251 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 03:44 thclown420 wrote:
Excelent work guys! Even if its not 100% accurate, its still something to go by. Plus, judging by the frequency of updates, I can tell yall are dedicated to getting it right.
I have a suggestion of sorts. I'd imagine yall would like some feedback as to how accurate things are right? So what if like there were a way to let yall know.. "hey, i just got pro/demoted" so that you could compare it to the promotion lines in your app. Just a thought.... Keep up the good work!
The app relies on having a URL connected to our battle.net profile to function, they can already tell if we're promoted or demoted . |
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| skeldark Germany. June 15 2012 05:43. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 03:44 thclown420 wrote:
Excellent work guys! Even if its not 100% accurate, its still something to go by. Plus, judging by the frequency of updates, I can tell yall are dedicated to getting it right.
I have a suggestion of sorts. I'd imagine yall would like some feedback as to how accurate things are right? So what if like there were a way to let yall know.. "hey, i just got pro/demoted" so that you could compare it to the promotion lines in your app. Just a thought.... Keep up the good work!
the "problem" is: we are more accurate than promotion and demotion.
Its not like: you get over the line and get promoted. You have to be stable in a tier of next league to get promoted.
This means you must be as stable as one tier-size of the league above you. If you are not stable the system will wait with the promotion until you reach the next higher league or fall back to the old league.
No of my graphs of the last versions was so bad that he would miss such a difference.
Its so accurate that i can not tell about a single point if its correct or not. I trust e+ more than when i judge the tier per hand.
That does not mean he guess the tier always correct. The offsets are not 100% correct too. we know that they are about 40 points wrong from bronze to master (over 1200 scale) . We work on both but we get close to the best possible result.
Do not forget that every point have a deviation and i show you the middle value.
Means: it can be that you have 1000 MMR win a game and have 980.
deviation of both = +-24
So it could be : 980 won 996
About the feedback: if you did not disable it, you upload your gamedata.
I can see your and any other graph of every user in my debug version
So we have a lot of feedback. We had to find out the offsets first before we could show any graph because they were unknown at the start of this project. Beside that, blizzard can change the offsets at any point. So we don't know if the s7 offsets are still correct. We will see in next weeks on the s8 data. We know they don't make big changes because every big change in offsets we would notice in mass demotions, promotions next day.
Also also if you want to have a look at our data:
Datafile: Season 7 Data
That are the 20k best games out of over 50k that was uploaded in season 7. We had to throw most data away because older version did not handle all special cases. We just found out about this cases. So s8 data should be 100% useful.Last edit: 2012-06-15 10:16:26 |
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| LOLZEY Canada. June 15 2012 10:13. Posts 45 | Profile # |
Hi everyone,
I think I found a bug. I just played 4 games on ladder (including my placement match), and the MMR tool only seemed to show the results of my MMR change after game 1? It says games play = 4, but I only see how much my MMR grew from game 1 to game 2.
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| skeldark Germany. June 15 2012 10:15. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 10:13 LOLZEY wrote:
Hi everyone,
I think I found a bug. I just played 4 games on ladder (including my placement match), and the MMR tool only seemed to show the results of my MMR change after game 1? It says games play = 4, but I only see how much my MMR grew from game 1 to game 2.
How do i fix this?
you dont.
do you see all games when you disable analyser?
The different analyser filter games they can not use. So they don't show all games.
Also it can be that there was only data about your opponent collected, if you have memory reader off and lost the game.Last edit: 2012-06-15 10:17:28 |
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| LOLZEY Canada. June 15 2012 10:17. Posts 45 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 10:15 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 10:13 LOLZEY wrote:
Hi everyone,
I think I found a bug. I just played 4 games on ladder (including my placement match), and the MMR tool only seemed to show the results of my MMR change after game 1? It says games play = 4, but I only see how much my MMR grew from game 1 to game 2.
How do i fix this?
you dont. do you see all games when you disable analyser? The different analyser filter games they can not use. So they don't show all games. Also it can be that there was only data about your opponent collected, if you have memory reader off and lost the game.
Oh ok, great I see them now. Thanks!
EDIT: It still seems that I can only see 1 opponent (the first one I played), although it does show all my games now. How do I show more opponents?Last edit: 2012-06-15 10:20:28 |
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| skeldark Germany. June 15 2012 10:22. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 10:17 LOLZEY wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 10:15 skeldark wrote:
On June 15 2012 10:13 LOLZEY wrote:
Hi everyone,
I think I found a bug. I just played 4 games on ladder (including my placement match), and the MMR tool only seemed to show the results of my MMR change after game 1? It says games play = 4, but I only see how much my MMR grew from game 1 to game 2.
How do i fix this?
you dont. do you see all games when you disable analyser? The different analyser filter games they can not use. So they don't show all games. Also it can be that there was only data about your opponent collected, if you have memory reader off and lost the game.
Oh ok, great I see them now. Thanks! EDIT: It still seems that I can only see 1 opponent (the first one I played), although it does show all my games now. How do I show more opponents?
you dont.
Like your data not all opponent data is valid. It show what it can.
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| skeldark Germany. June 15 2012 11:44. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
Skill to population in sc2:
(range of mmr most likely dont start by bronze 0 !)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UwbCk.png) Last edit: 2012-06-15 13:38:40 |
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 Excalibur_Z United States. June 15 2012 13:59. Posts 10284 | Profile # |
| Oh? Were there new offsets published? |
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| skeldark Germany. June 15 2012 14:06. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 13:59 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Oh? Were there new offsets published?
no they are the old one.
You can check our offsets in the bnet data file for the program.
BTW we are most likely only 40 points off between high bronze - Master!
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Deviation for the gauss function have 68,27 % of the data.
Anyone can tell me a more accurate number than 68,27 ?
I really don't want to calculate the space...
nevermind: 0.682689492137Last edit: 2012-06-15 14:22:52 |
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| skeldark Germany. June 15 2012 18:39. Posts 2215 | Profile # |
4.2 out
New Frame
Gui is now in an internal frame inside sc2gears.
Thanks to Dakota_Fanning , for adding it to the plugin library!
Please update sc2gears before you install the new version.
Improved GUI.
Skill / Population
I added a diagram that show your mmr compared to the hole server. So you know how good you are!
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| Peleus Australia. June 15 2012 19:03. Posts 407 | Profile # |
Hey it looks pretty cool.
It seems as though the aspect ratio is stretched a little, (16 monitor running 1920x1080).
Also, I'm not sure how the graphing function works, but is it possible to start dropping game numbers so we have an even bottom (but visible) game count rather than dots?
For example, currently with 200 games it would just be a series of ... down the bottom.
Ideally it could be 1 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180 200 etc, adjusting automatically as more increases.
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