| ELA Denmark. May 04 2012 02:17. Posts 4570 | Profile # |
 Eclypsia which everyone in the Starcraft community should know about at this point, having recently signed players such as  Scarlett,  desRow and  Artist, the team has shot out of nowhere to be quite the presence in the E-sports world, not only for Starcraft 2, but also for DotA 2.
However, just hours ago, this interview was published on one of the major DotA-community sites, JoinDotA.com. In said interview, manager of a danish DotA-squad "MystresS" formerly sponsored by Quantic Gaming, now accuses Eclypsia for straight up lying to them, about salaries, equipment etc.
Here's an excerpt:
MystresS: Eclypsia works with Dota2-Europe.com and one of their staff approached me last Friday [April 27th] and proposed a salary of € 7500 per month for the whole team, 100% of the earnings for 10 hours of streaming per player, per week. Of course I contacted the players right away and told them about it, of course we were all very exited about since that would mean more time to concentrate on practising.
MystresS: Eclypsia then started to change their original offer... They wanted the players to generate 5000 viewers on the stream, forbid the players the use of IRC, and every time I tried to defend my players, explaining that it was impossible for them to have this many viewers in such a short time, I was threatened not to get paid... And this went on and on for three days.
MystresS: They then asked of me to find sponsors for Eclypsia, big sponsors such as Razer or SteelSeries... which is absolutely not my job. My role is to make sure the players can concentrate on playing while I take care of organising them at LAN events, tournaments etc.
Read the full interview here.
Edit #1: MystresS has later replied in one of the comments to the article, that even though Starcraft and League of Legends players haven't complained about this publicly, they haven't seen any money yet either. - Again, unconfirmed and obviously biased source, no idea if she has any basis for speaking on behalf of those players.
Edit #2:
Eclypsia has released this statement, after the interview with MystresS was published.
+ Show Spoiler +Further to the recent declarations from Mystress and her teammates about joining Eclypsia, we believe it is of a public interest to respond to what we see as partial, and grossly misleading. Eclypsia is currently launching a Dota2 team. Several existing teams as well as players have been contacted to this effect. Eclypsia conditions to recruiting a team included capacities to stream and generate a specified audience. A verbal agreement was found with Mystress ‘ Danish team to be transferred to Eclypsia on the base of the understanding and the acceptation of these conditions. Unfortunately , the team was clearly unable to meet the conditions which therefore ended the agreement and the relationship. We regret that many are taking their commitments too lighlty resulting in wasting time and energy for everybody involved Eclypsia commits very seriously to its projects and strive to provide the utmost professionalism in every situation we deal with in order to deliver the best to the gamers. We realize the gaming industry needs to undergo a major turn towards more professionalism and we believe we have a valuable contribution to make to this effect. http://www.eclypsia.com/en/news-259.html
E-sports veterans will know this, because they have learned this lesson the hard way; that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Now, this is obviously just one squad manager going out with this, but if this is a representation of how players are treated on Eclypsia, it could very well affect the Starcraft 2 players on their roster as well.Last edit: 2012-05-04 03:44:19 |
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| GoSuChicken United States. May 04 2012 02:19. Posts 1352 | Profile Blog # |
| That rather belongs to the dota section. |
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| Hirnfrost Germany. May 04 2012 02:20. Posts 914 | Profile # |
just read it on joinDOTA
I honestly can´t believe that eclypsia did that.
If it is true then, to put it in MistresS´s words, Eclypsia has no idea at all about how eSports works. |
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| SolHeiM Sweden. May 04 2012 02:20. Posts 1260 | Profile Blog # |
| Is this just another PR marketing bullshit like the April Fool's joke? Seriously, what is up with this team. |
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| Facultyadjutant Sweden. May 04 2012 02:23. Posts 1258 | Profile Blog # |
| So afraid for scarlett joining this team - I don't trust them a single bit |
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| Mattacate May 04 2012 02:23. Posts 58 | Profile # |
| I hate to sound like a fanboy but the scene really doesn't need more of this kind of crap, wish that this team would get their act together. |
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| Hirnfrost Germany. May 04 2012 02:24. Posts 914 | Profile # |
On May 04 2012 02:20 SolHeiM wrote:
Is this just another PR marketing bullshit like the April Fool's joke? Seriously, what is up with this team.
I don´t know what would hurt their reputation more...both possibilities are just terrible. |
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 Glurkenspurk United States. May 04 2012 02:25. Posts 1847 | Profile # |
| Eclypsia popped out of nowhere and ate up a bunch of players. It's incredibly suspicious. |
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| Tidus Mino United Kingdom. May 04 2012 02:25. Posts 1065 | Profile # |
On May 04 2012 02:20 SolHeiM wrote:
Is this just another PR marketing bullshit like the April Fool's joke? Seriously, what is up with this team.
No it's not PR this time, it's a team that's had terrible luck getting screwed over |
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| drsnuggles Korea (South). May 04 2012 02:26. Posts 308 | Profile Blog # |
| It's already posted in the Dota section and being discussed there, don't see this as very relevant to the SC2 forum as long as there are no confirming posts from the SC2 players. At least DesRow didn't seem to have any problems with them so far (didn't sound like that at least on his twitter/facebook). Last edit: 2012-05-04 02:27:09 |
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| Deeno Finland. May 04 2012 02:28. Posts 60 | Profile # |
| I sure hope Scarlett didn't join the wrong team :/ |
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| FreudianTrip Switzerland. May 04 2012 02:29. Posts 1889 | Profile # | |
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| enecateReAP United Kingdom. May 04 2012 02:30. Posts 377 | Profile # |
The truth of the matter is that Eclypsia is owned by a BUISNESS MAN, and the people who surround the core ownership and people who they've aquired from differant teams to act as management. (Eg. MGK)
The owner has only just started playing starcraft (as it is his assosiation as owner of Eclypsia) and he is investing a great deal in the team personally and hopes to make it an eventual buisness venture.
This is all from the mouths of people assosiated with Eclypsia and also from people who Eclypsia have expressed interest in aquiring, as such I cannot confirm it's validity so everything I've put is up to scrutiny. |
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| Torte de Lini Canada. May 04 2012 02:30. Posts 27345 | Profile Blog # |
| Hardly surprised. They came out of nowhere, set up camp, picked up some low-key players and had two PR disasters and don't really know how to approach the community. |
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| Klondikebar United States. May 04 2012 02:30. Posts 1599 | Profile # |
I find it hard to believe they tricked Scarlett. She admitted that she got objectively better offers from other teams. If Eclypsia was in the business of lying then why didn't they just make a bigger fake offer than the other teams?
Also, is the Eclypsia DotA team/managers/staff even the same as the Starcraft 2 team/managers/staff? |
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| Cirqueenflex May 04 2012 02:32. Posts 429 | Profile # |
On May 04 2012 02:25 Odal wrote:
Eclypsia popped out of nowhere and ate up a bunch of players. It's incredibly suspicious.
it is... PACMAN
on a more serious note, i hope this only affects the DOTA section of Eclypsia, not their SC2 division. Still, i hate them for what they did with aprils fools. They just used a bad joke to destroy the trust and reputation of players on the topic of getting screwed by a team. So i won't be surprised if they turn out to be a black sheepLast edit: 2012-05-04 02:35:22 |
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| Rubber United States. May 04 2012 02:34. Posts 150 | Profile Blog # |
On May 04 2012 02:29 FreudianTrip wrote:
... April Fools!
LOL
I think what we're seeing here are the growing pains of an inexperienced organisation, who still need to learn to manage their expectations. I'm not ready to vilify Eclypsia just yet, although I'm not a fan of their choice in April Fool's jokes. Hopefully they learn from this situation and begin to develop realistic expectations for their players and improve their contract process. |
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| Nokshalees United States. May 04 2012 02:35. Posts 120 | Profile # |
| It's like april fools all over again |
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| Hertzy Finland. May 04 2012 02:40. Posts 253 | Profile # |
On May 04 2012 02:28 Deeno wrote:
I sure hope Scarlett didn't join the wrong team :/
As long as she's got the deal in writing, she should be okay. Of course, in her place I wouldn't start fulfilling my end of any deals with Eclypsia before signing the contract. |
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| Sein United States. May 04 2012 02:41. Posts 1738 | Profile Blog # |
| Assuming their management does both business and PR rather than specifically hiring PR people, not surprising at all. The team sounds like a disaster. Last edit: 2012-05-04 02:42:01 |
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