| talismania United States. May 19 2012 09:40. Posts 2364 | Profile Blog # |
So your plan all along was to lynch sentinel and if he flipped as telling the truth, shoot marv?
(assuming you're town) |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 19 2012 09:41. Posts 2768 | Profile # |
| Well I wouldn't call it a plan as much as the only non-retarded action. |
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| PaqMan United States. May 19 2012 10:09. Posts 1404 | Profile Blog # |
So you're proposing that we don't lynch you, lynch sentinel instead, and let you shoot marv?...
That requires me trusting that you're town, which I don't. |
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| slOosh May 19 2012 10:36. Posts 1946 | Profile # |
| Why would we shoot marv ... |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 19 2012 10:39. Posts 873 | Profile # |
Sorry about it I fell asleep because it was really late -_-
I picked JOAT |
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| slOosh May 19 2012 10:42. Posts 1946 | Profile # |
| Then risk is pretty much a liar huh? |
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| Palmar Iceland. May 19 2012 10:45. Posts 7621 | Profile Blog # |
I don't believe you risk. I think vigilante is too generic a claim for you. I think that fell through and your buddy got it somewhere lower. I don't think you're bad enough at this game to assume that hiding your role was soooo important that you'd directly attack town by refusing to work together.
I want to kill you.
To clarify. I understand that pardoning sent basically means wasting an entire cycle for town only to have the same argument again, so I'm actually not doing it.
That doesn't change we should be killing risk, not sent, tonight.
Good night. |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 19 2012 10:45. Posts 873 | Profile # |
This means that either risk is a liar, or sentinel picked JOAT. I believe marv's claim since both toad and sandroba said they tried to pick it but couldnt, and its probably easily confirmable.
I need to catch up, give me a few minutes |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 19 2012 10:45. Posts 2768 | Profile # |
On May 19 2012 10:42 slOosh wrote:
Then risk is pretty much a liar huh?
No but since you're an idiot I'm going to break the current situation down to you.
deconduo: dead confirmed cpr mafia
risk.nuke: claimed vigilante
marvellosity: claimed mason
[UoN]Sentinel: claimed to have tried to pick janitor and didn't get it hence vanilla townie
Mattchew: Confirmed Day Vigilante
zelblade: claims JOAT |
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| talismania United States. May 19 2012 10:55. Posts 2364 | Profile Blog # |
| Risk is either the most counterintuitive scum ever or is telling the truth. Dunno why he would lie about joat if he knew zelblade was going to be able to counter. Regardless I think seeing sentinels flip will be helpful in disentangling this. |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 19 2012 10:56. Posts 873 | Profile # |
Why did people assume I would pick janitor when there was a plan for pretty much 2-4 take janitor -_-
Anyway I still think sentinel is town since I just cant wrap my head around a mafia being so dumb. Traitor seems like a plausible explanation, except that the fact that there is a JOAT in 2-4 makes it make no sense.
Bleh lynch is locked anyway. |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 19 2012 11:02. Posts 2768 | Profile # |
I don't know why I'm staying up, if everyone is telling the truth it's easy to deduct what is to come.
Nightpost - Night 1
[Picture Here] Sentinel the mafia JOAT has been lynched
Nite |
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| PaqMan United States. May 19 2012 11:33. Posts 1404 | Profile Blog # |
Risk is going to shoot at marv tonight, plus the scum kill, plus the SK kill, plus the CPR doc if the copycat chooses to use it. We're going to have at most 4 dead townies by the end of N1.
I think the best course of action would be to roleblock (not jail) risk and, if the CPR is a townie, vigi him. |
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| Misder United States. May 19 2012 12:00. Posts 1021 | Profile # |
risk.nuke can't be mafia anymore according to logic (assuming zelblade is not lying).
There must be a JOAT between risk.nuke, marvellosity, and Sentinel.
R = risk.nuke, M = marvellosity, S= Sentinel
V = vigilante, Ma = mason, Jo = JOAT, Ja = janitor
R M S
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V Ma Jo (Possible- Sentinel scum)
Jo Ma Ja (Not Possible- Sentinel is lying as town)
V Jo Ja (Not Possible- Sentinel is lying as town)
Anyways, scum would have no reason to claim a role before zelblade claimed. It only makes sense that Sentinel is scum. |
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| Qatol United States. May 19 2012 12:00. Posts 3010 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2012 10:56 zelblade wrote:
Why did people assume I would pick janitor when there was a plan for pretty much 2-4 take janitor -_-
Anyway I still think sentinel is town since I just cant wrap my head around a mafia being so dumb. Traitor seems like a plausible explanation, except that the fact that there is a JOAT in 2-4 makes it make no sense.
Bleh lynch is locked anyway.
So you believe that marvellosity AND risk.nuke are lying about their role selections? If Sentinel is town and you are town, then the other 2 roles taken were JOAT and Janitor. Sentinel as anti-town and risk.nuke taking JOAT makes a lot more sense. |
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| Misder United States. May 19 2012 12:02. Posts 1021 | Profile # |
| This also means that Janitor is not in those three hands, and that if there is a Janitor, then it's in scum's hand in a lower draft position. |
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| Qatol United States. May 19 2012 12:05. Posts 3010 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2012 12:02 Misder wrote:
This also means that Janitor is not in those three hands, and that if there is a Janitor, then it's in scum's hand in a lower draft position.
There is one way I can think of having one of those 3 having Janitor: it is possible that marvellosity is lying mafia and a scumbuddy (could only be mafia because a townie would have counterclaimed) after him but before toadesstern took mason. |
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| Misder United States. May 19 2012 12:07. Posts 1021 | Profile # |
| But that means risk.nuke is lying about having vigilante and has JOAT. |
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| Misder United States. May 19 2012 12:10. Posts 1021 | Profile # |
| Oh, my logic is assuming that only one of them is lying. If two of them are lying, then anyone could be anything (well, I haven't done the deductive reasoning, but I would assume so). |
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| Qatol United States. May 19 2012 12:12. Posts 3010 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2012 12:07 Misder wrote:
But that means risk.nuke is lying about having vigilante and has JOAT.
Good point. You're right. If there's a janitor, it has to be outside of those picks unless we have multiple liars. |
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