| risk.nuke Sweden. May 20 2012 23:02. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
| So I would like to do a roleclaim plan today. you've heard my first thoughts on it. Anyone have something to add? Want to change something about the plan? Disagree with the roleclaim plan or have another idea. Now is the time. |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 20 2012 23:03. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
| There is potentially missing kp but we should turn to that AFTER roleclaims. Don't rush. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 20 2012 23:05. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
there has to be missing KP oO
It's only 2 and I doubt the SK would shoot into someone he/ everyone thinks so be mafia when 2 are already dead. |
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:07. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
| Uhh so theres only 2 mafia left. O_O |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 20 2012 23:08. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
| there is only 1 mafia left and the sk. |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 20 2012 23:08. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
| potentially a traitor I suppose. |
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:09. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
On May 20 2012 23:08 risk.nuke wrote:
there is only 1 mafia left and the sk.
ahhh thanks for the correction :3. |
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| Qatol United States. May 20 2012 23:16. Posts 3010 | Profile Blog # |
On May 20 2012 23:03 risk.nuke wrote:
There is potentially missing kp but we should turn to that AFTER roleclaims. Don't rush.
So PaqMan's death was your shot?
And no, missing KP is definitely more important than roleclaims. I still don't think anyone should be roleclaiming unless it is adds something to the town. What do we get out of it? I think you need to give a case for why we should be roleclaiming before I'm even going to consider supporting such a plan. |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 20 2012 23:27. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
I've been holding it of trying to encourage others to give some thoughts on it before I explained my reasons because only half of us are rowing or even trying and I got nullreads on far to many players. Which is very weird with three red flips.
What I mainly hope to learn from it is what did Player try to go for and does that make sense from his point of view. Mafia and town might try to denie some roles from eachother but their agendas are not aligned so a roleclaim will for example let us see suspicous picks. |
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:34. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
Ahh one possibility: Remaining scum chose PaqMan to be the one who sent out the kill and therefore the kill didn't happen.
Also, I think that risk is probably town, that PaqMan chose to vote him over sent in D1 is an additional fact to that, and to risk's plan. No, I don't think we should roleclaim now, it will just open up choice picks for scum to choose from each night. Results of the night we're good imo but I think Mafia shot talis because he was high up in the draft, should look at his scum reads though.
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:35. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
| EBWOP: I think SK shot talis (If PaqMan was teh one who carried out teh kill Talis would of lived.) |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 20 2012 23:39. Posts 11170 | Profile # |
On May 20 2012 23:34 Bluelightz wrote:
Ahh one possibility: Remaining scum chose PaqMan to be the one who sent out the kill and therefore the kill didn't happen.
Also, I think that risk is probably town, that PaqMan chose to vote him over sent in D1 is an additional fact to that, and to risk's plan. No, I don't think we should roleclaim now, it will just open up choice picks for scum to choose from each night. Results of the night we're good imo but I think Mafia shot talis because he was high up in the draft, should look at his scum reads though.
Are you sure this is how it would happen? My understanding is that both kills would go through?
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 20 2012 23:42. Posts 11170 | Profile # |
On May 20 2012 23:16 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:03 risk.nuke wrote:
There is potentially missing kp but we should turn to that AFTER roleclaims. Don't rush.
So PaqMan's death was your shot? And no, missing KP is definitely more important than roleclaims. I still don't think anyone should be roleclaiming unless it is adds something to the town. What do we get out of it? I think you need to give a case for why we should be roleclaiming before I'm even going to consider supporting such a plan.
The missing KP is extremely interesting here. I wonder if someone got off a nice medic save.
Anyway, I've been asked by my mason buddy to bring this up.
For whatever reason, he chose Politician. Except he didn't get it and is in fact Vanilla Townie. He speculates (and I would tend to agree) that this means that there is a Serial Killer Politician.
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:43. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
On May 20 2012 23:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:34 Bluelightz wrote:
Ahh one possibility: Remaining scum chose PaqMan to be the one who sent out the kill and therefore the kill didn't happen.
Also, I think that risk is probably town, that PaqMan chose to vote him over sent in D1 is an additional fact to that, and to risk's plan. No, I don't think we should roleclaim now, it will just open up choice picks for scum to choose from each night. Results of the night we're good imo but I think Mafia shot talis because he was high up in the draft, should look at his scum reads though.
Are you sure this is how it would happen? My understanding is that both kills would go through?
Actually, good point, consider that possibility invalid.
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| PaqMan United States. May 20 2012 23:44. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # | |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 20 2012 23:44. Posts 11170 | Profile # |
| EBWOP: forgot to mention - the theory is made stronger by the fact that Sentinel was lynched by only one vote and could have been saved if Politician was in mafia hands. |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 20 2012 23:46. Posts 4488 | Profile Blog # |
My guess is that the witch protected someone before dieing.
not sure who to lynch. My heart still wants risk dead but I know that would be retarded. Also, quickest scum team wipe ever lololo
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:46. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
@Marv
I made a spreadsheet on the night kills, the results:
CPR (which I think is in Mafia hands):
Mafia alignment kill :
SK kill
We know risk's vig shot went through |
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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 20 2012 23:51. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
EBWOP:
@Marv
I made a spreadsheet on the night kills, the results:
CPR (which I think is in Mafia hands): no |
Mafia alignment kill : yes | talis
SK kill : no |
We know risk's vig shot went through so that confirms 1 kill
What I think:
Mafia kill is the one that went through as there is nothing preventing this as this is at the top of the tree of action resolution.
SK Kill was blocked/ hit a veteran.
CPR was roleblocked/ held his power (VERY UNLIKELY)
What do you guys think? |
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| Qatol United States. May 20 2012 23:56. Posts 3010 | Profile Blog # |
On May 20 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote:
I've been holding it of trying to encourage others to give some thoughts on it before I explained my reasons because only half of us are rowing or even trying and I got nullreads on far to many players. Which is very weird with three red flips.
What I mainly hope to learn from it is what did Player try to go for and does that make sense from his point of view. Mafia and town might try to denie some roles from eachother but their agendas are not aligned so a roleclaim will for example let us see suspicous picks.
No, please tell us now. It isn't like we're going to not discuss your idea if you give us this information. We need to know if there's a potential CPR doctor out there. Your shot affects that calculation. |
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