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| Bluelightz Indonesia. May 22 2012 19:40. Posts 2327 | Profile Blog # |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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gg :D |
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| Palmar Iceland. May 22 2012 19:55. Posts 7576 | Profile Blog # |
| We should just murder sandroba, it's a really nice and easy way to continue today. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 20:10. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
Was Qatol shot?
We're missing one KP again. SK has 1 KP and mafia has 1 KP but there's only one dead guy and I guess whoever shot blue went for a save hit rather than someone looking good to avoid protection. So unless somehow SK and Mafia (going to use "mafia" for both SK and mafia from now on...) BOTH had the same idea and BOTH shot the exact same guy we're missing one guy.
I'd assume Qatol jailed risk or marv and I'm pretty sure mafia assumed something along those lines as well. Or at least someone like Risk / marv. The imortant part is that Qatol can't jail himself, even if he could he would probably RB himself before protecting rendering the protection useless 
The the interesting part here is, did mafia shoot into someone like Risk / marv and we'll probably never know because Risk / marv won't get confirmation on that one according to Chaoser, or did mafia shoot Qatol because that would have been the reasonable thing to do if you want to avoid protection, unless of course there's a real medic around, however I'd take that risk over shooting into risk / marv without a second of a thought as mafia.
Right now I'd assume Qatol did not jail risk and rather went for his #2 "target" because he said something along the lines "vigs shoot into XYZ" yesterday, didn't he? So he probably wanted risk to shoot because there's not a fantastillion vigs around anymore. Risk could tell us if he was RB'ed but he can not tell us if he was protected and Qatol could just tell us who he jailed
However the interesting part here is why Qatol is not dead. He is the guy able to save everyones life except for his own. So I'd actually say the 2nd hit was Qatol and he was protected by a real medic. Can't imagine mafia not wanting Qatol dead right now when he's even the save-hit if there's no 2nd medic.
Confirmation on who was RB'ed / protected / hit would still be nice to figure this out. |
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| Mattchew United States. May 22 2012 20:18. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
Toad qatol said he jailed marv and that marv nor himself took a hit
and I agree with a sandroba lynch |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 22 2012 20:20. Posts 872 | Profile # |
I highly doubt Qatol took a shot last night since he didnt claim getting shot. And he was asking for whoever got shot claim so....
What do you guys think about a massclaim? |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 22 2012 20:25. Posts 4491 | Profile Blog # |
TBH Barundar should be lynched.
Bluelightz makes decent case for the first time in his life -> he is killed the day after. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT
Now, on a serious note, I agree with the mass claim plan. And I'll agree with it by claiming.
There is a Politician in game.
I picked Politician and got Vanilla. I wanted to deny/confirm a possible Politician in game, and I didn't claim earlier to create suspicion for mafia(omg, maybe I would be a protective role right?). At this point, this information is better for town.
I wanted marv's partner(who isn't me!) to claim because he could be higher up than me on the list, but if the politician(and probably SK) is Barundar as I suspect, I'm the one who should be claiming.
Now, if you want a case on Barundar, I present you Bluelightz' best case ever. |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 22 2012 20:27. Posts 4491 | Profile Blog # | |
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| risk.nuke Sweden. May 22 2012 20:34. Posts 2763 | Profile # |
I was not shot or roleblocked. I just held my shot. Obviously the reason I asked Qatol to jail me was to stay alive. I thought my shot would be of better use after the roleclaim.
Bluelights was hardly shot because he was looking towny so the case on Barundar and his posts deffinitly deserves another look.
We're claiming today. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:03. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 20:18 Mattchew wrote:
Toad qatol said he jailed marv and that marv nor himself took a hit
and I agree with a sandroba lynch
yeah exactly, however I only had the nested quote of this one in my mind, didn't see chaosers update until you just said that:
On May 22 2012 04:58 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 04:37 chaoser wrote:
On May 22 2012 03:41 Qatol wrote:
What about if they are saved by being Jailed? Is the player doing the saving informed of the save?
Reading back on old PYP games, jailkeeper saves do not get notifications while doctor saves do
From PYPI:
Jailkeeper
You have the ability to lock someone in jail, preventing all night actions on a player of your choice during the night. This includes DT checks, bombs, night hits, and recruitment. It does not prevent roleblocks. You may not protect yourself. No one will be notified of any results. Jailkeeper can protect someone the night she/he gets killed.
so I thought he assumed he would get a notification when really he would not. But that statement makes clear that he would have gotten an notification which brings us to our problem again:
We have a jailer who can protect people but he protected someone that didn't end up being shot and we're missing KP
=> we probably have a medic or someone shot into a vet / hider.
Pretty sure a vet and a medic would get a notification as well, not sure about the hider though.
I'm just mentioning that because it could be an issue for the massclaim and I would like Qatols thought on that before starting doing anyting because if we have a medic that could change some things.
I'm going to do whatever Qatol says because clearly he's carrying town right now but I want his comment on that one before starting everything to make sure he just didn't forget about that part. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:13. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
Just to make the point clear, because I failed to come to a conclusion in my last post and I apparently need to type out everything:
We have a claimed hit and people questioned that the first time. We still don't have a counterclaim à la "hey I got shot as well". Risk did not get shot and neither did Qatol / Marv according to them. So right now it looks like Zeph was REALLY shot and since he is a VT (he claimed Joat-VT or am I confusing things right now?) we have a medic OR zeph is a mafia / SK who hold his shot to savely claim being shot for towncred. But that's a little hypocritical considering I told him (or zelblade, lol) to stop thinking of worst case scenarios of things that make me look good. |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 22 2012 21:15. Posts 11186 | Profile # |
| Just to say that I did indeed get a PM saying I had been roleblocked (read: jailed) |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 22 2012 21:15. Posts 4491 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 22 2012 21:16. Posts 4491 | Profile Blog # |
| Also, witch could have protected me day1. He would have to chose between me and PaqMan, and it was pretty obvious I was the one to be protected >_> |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:28. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 21:16 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, witch could have protected me day1. He would have to chose between me and PaqMan, and it was pretty obvious I was the one to be protected >_>
oooh. Screw everything I said. You were protected n1 and not yesterday... mixed that up, so we still have a missing KP? |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 22 2012 21:29. Posts 4491 | Profile Blog # |
On May 22 2012 21:28 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 21:16 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, witch could have protected me day1. He would have to chose between me and PaqMan, and it was pretty obvious I was the one to be protected >_>
oooh. Screw everything I said. You were protected n1 and not yesterday... mixed that up, so we still have a missing KP?
Yup. If there is no claim, I'll just assume Barundar got shot.
Cuz, y'know, he is the serial killah |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:30. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
I really should make notes again but I can't bother doing so once I get frustrated about a game (in this case because I sucked d1)
Playing by heart really gives me a hard time differentiating between all those claims... |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 22 2012 21:33. Posts 872 | Profile # |
On May 19 2012 14:51 talismania wrote:
deconduo [1,1] - Mafia CPR doc (DayVigged by Mattchew)
risk.nuke [4,2] - Vigilante
marvellosity [7,2] - Mason
[UoN]Sentinel [9,1] - Mafia Jack of All Trades (Lynched Day One)
Mattchew [11,x] - Day Vigilante
zelblade [12,x] - Vanilla Townie (Picked JoAT)
Bluelightz [13,x] - Town Rolecop
talismania [15,1] - Town Witch
Misder [2,2]
PaqMan [2,2] - Vanilla Mafia (Picked ???)
slOosh [10,x]
Toadesstern [10,10] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Barundar [3,1]
Zephirdd [3,2] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Politician)
hiro protagonist [3,x]
Palmar [5,1] - Pardoner
Snarfs [5,1]
Qatol [5,1] - Jailkeeper
sandroba [5,1] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Probulous - Vanilla Townie (Modkilled)
Assuming that we believe zeph's claim, this narrows down the SK to misder, sloosh, toad, and barundar. Since toad has already claimed VT I suggest we get the remaining three to claim for now.
Marv can you get your townie to claim? Especially if it narrows it down further. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:37. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 21:33 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 14:51 talismania wrote:
deconduo [1,1] - Mafia CPR doc (DayVigged by Mattchew)
risk.nuke [4,2] - Vigilante
marvellosity [7,2] - Mason
[UoN]Sentinel [9,1] - Mafia Jack of All Trades (Lynched Day One)
Mattchew [11,x] - Day Vigilante
zelblade [12,x] - Vanilla Townie (Picked JoAT)
Bluelightz [13,x] - Town Rolecop
talismania [15,1] - Town Witch
Misder [2,2]
PaqMan [2,2] - Vanilla Mafia (Picked ???)
slOosh [10,x]
Toadesstern [10,10] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Barundar [3,1]
Zephirdd [3,2] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Politician)
hiro protagonist [3,x]
Palmar [5,1] - Pardoner
Snarfs [5,1]
Qatol [5,1] - Jailkeeper
sandroba [5,1] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Probulous - Vanilla Townie (Modkilled)
Assuming that we believe zeph's claim, this narrows down the SK to misder, sloosh, toad, and barundar. Since toad has already claimed VT I suggest we get the remaining three to claim for now. why can the SK only be misder, sloosh, myself and barundar? Marv can you get your townie to claim? Especially if it narrows it down further.
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:37. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 21:37 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 21:33 zelblade wrote:
On May 19 2012 14:51 talismania wrote:
deconduo [1,1] - Mafia CPR doc (DayVigged by Mattchew)
risk.nuke [4,2] - Vigilante
marvellosity [7,2] - Mason
[UoN]Sentinel [9,1] - Mafia Jack of All Trades (Lynched Day One)
Mattchew [11,x] - Day Vigilante
zelblade [12,x] - Vanilla Townie (Picked JoAT)
Bluelightz [13,x] - Town Rolecop
talismania [15,1] - Town Witch
Misder [2,2]
PaqMan [2,2] - Vanilla Mafia (Picked ???)
slOosh [10,x]
Toadesstern [10,10] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Barundar [3,1]
Zephirdd [3,2] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Politician)
hiro protagonist [3,x]
Palmar [5,1] - Pardoner
Snarfs [5,1]
Qatol [5,1] - Jailkeeper
sandroba [5,1] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Probulous - Vanilla Townie (Modkilled)
Assuming that we believe zeph's claim, this narrows down the SK to misder, sloosh, toad, and barundar. Since toad has already claimed VT I suggest we get the remaining three to claim for now. Marv can you get your townie to claim? Especially if it narrows it down further.
EBWOP: woops, posted inside the quote:
why can the SK only be misder, sloosh, myself and barundar?
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| Toadesstern Germany. May 22 2012 21:40. Posts 6103 | Profile # | |
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