Blizzard announces HoTS Feature List

On May 09 2012 09:14 Arkless wrote:

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On May 08 2012 20:13 Sergio1992 wrote:

On May 08 2012 18:54 Rebel_ wrote:

On May 08 2012 18:48 Sapphire.lux wrote:

On May 08 2012 18:32 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Glad everyone is so excited about paying for things that should have been included in WoL or patched in for free.

Now i like to give Blizzard a hard time for a lot of things but that is just wrong. They have worked on WOL for 2 years now, from balance to engine improvements. Verry few companies do that, for free.

You must be confused... every company does patches for free. The only thing that companies charge for are add-ons (DLC's).... I have not see any company that charges for their own patches... If so, do tell.

Anyways, this is fucking awesome! Finally they have told the community what they will do for HoTS and it is what we all wanted. Browder said they could not add LAN due to the engine, so if you want LAN wait 4 years for LoV (it is not going to happen, but i hope lag will deteriorate in the coming years... and i think he said it when Catz was interviewing him last year).

Clan support and Unranked ladder is just damn great!

Can't wait for HoTS! Thank you blizzard for listening to what the community wants!

I'm not actually really sure I will buy Hots anytime soon, because Starcraft 2 is still a beta game,with all these functionalities lacking, the sad thing is that there are blind people that don't understand that even if in beta state it is sold as a complete game.
No wonders that blizzard became like that, wanna bet with me hots will be sold for 60€, not just as a mere expansion?
And blizzard fanboys will start saying "ehhhh that's a huge new game you are just a pathetic worthless piece of life if you don't see how good blizzard is on delivering us what we wanted". Yes, delivering a new game to complete a beta game.
And milking out people' wallet, and people still don't understand it, how fools they are, they just trust in Blizzard.....

I hope not to be the only one that is able to see what Blizzard is doing... Making games with half the features they should have to have people ready to buy the day one the expansion. Great marketing, nonetheless, because poeple still fall for it.

But I hope that when there will be an alternative to starcraft 2( if there will never be), I will be the first to abandon blizzard's ship

Well think of it like this... They have to release two expansions... So just new units will not make the community happy. The community sucks to make happy, since they want this and that. Look at CoD, same game every year with different skins and small additions. People will buy things that has a well known name attached to whatever they sell. I had a feeling they would add all of this in the next expansion. Since new units will not be enough to keep people satisfied to buy HoTS. So, yes it is good marketing, since they are with activision. They are getting told on how consumers work.

You do not understand how the gaming market works. Some companies will do this since recession is still here and games are not selling as well they were in the past. I never said it wont be a new game, but they listened to what we want. Well, I am not a fanboy of blizzard because it is actually Activsion-Blizzard. The game is not getting milked ( Halo and God of War are milked games). The game will be below 60 dorras... did you get the memo? And you are not the first person to abandon "blizzard's ship", a lot of people have.

Something tells me Sergio1992 is one of the few remaining BW elitists left here on TL. There are so many fail points to your post, it makes your opinion invalid.

Saying WoL is simply a beta game, is outrageous and wrong. What do you think 90% of the invested money goes towards?
Multiplayer-Nope
Patches-Nope

Guess what does!! Singleplayer!! Do you have any idea how much cgi costs? Let alone 30 missions full of 3d rendered motion images, full music soundtrack. Voice acting, etc. It is absolutely worth 60 dollars, and is not just an expansion.

Just because we bitched about things such as
-lan
-clan support
-replay sharing

Doesn't mean we are entitled to it, which is a huge problem in this community. Sense of entitlement. I don't blame blizzard for protecting their IP rights, with no lan. That way there is no ICcup etc. As awesome as ICcup was for us, it was a way to play the game for free and blizz lost out in the end, regardless of what you. In my personal life I can name 3 friends that played BW ICCup, and never paid for the retail version at all, ever. Times that by just the amount of people that frequent this site alone and that's a dickload of lost income.

They don't make this shit for free, and certaintly didn't make sc2 out of the goodness of there hearts for us. They are a FOR PROFIT business, and therefore don't give a shit if they don't make a profit.

Tl;DR Grow up man, you don't get shit for free in the real world, you are spoiled and probably to young to remember the pre internet days where you actually had to pay for everything.

There is one little thing you forget in your memo of capitalism: the customer. Grow up man, people don't just give you money for free in the real world. You are spoiled and probably too young to remember the pre-ZYNGA days where you actually have to satisfy a customer.

Sure Blizzard is a business, no shit Sherlock. Though one would think an optimally run business would look back at things they did great and were loved for and try to preserve it. At makes much sense to actively decide to scrap things that worked in favor of Facebook integration and a complete cripple of the custom game system.

All the infrastructure arguments are pure bullshit. When you create a system from scratch, it's the single biggest opportunity to make things exactly the way you want it to. The fact WoL came a decade later also means you have contemporary technology available. "You can't re-create what was done years ago"- what non-sense. More than ever you can. Better than ever. More efficient than ever. Creating from scratch means to define exactly the capabilities and not to be constrained by old tech. When the net-code of WoL doesn't allow it, means only three things:

1) You never wanted it to be possible
2) It is possible, but you always wanted to release it later in favor of other things
3) It is bad net-code

Of the three possibilities, there is valid room to critic- as a customer. I don't have to care whether and why they didn't want or couldn't do this or that. All I know is that the features existed for decades, contemporary rival companies were always able to produce them, and for whatever reason it was decided to leave them out to release after. For money, because of bad programming- I don't have to care. It first and foremost is their problem.

There is also a little thing called, having the option to NOT buy the product if you think it sucks. No point in buying a game if you're just gonna whine/moan/bitch about it after the fact. You bought the game as is, so why bitch now? Did you walk into w/e u bought WoL pissed off giving them your money? You knew there was no lan/clan support etc when you originally bought WoL. So if so, why did you even bother to buy it? So you could "have the right" to bitch about it afterwards???

They could have just said meh, fuck it no free patches. They don't have to do shit after the fact, just like how Heinz doesn't have to come refill my ketchup bottle every time it empties.

Your capitalism argument is just plain stupid. You weren't anywhere apart of who I was responding to. So if you're going to try and be cute, be original son. Come up with your own shit instead of copy/paste/change 1 word.

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