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 nttea   Sweden. May 12 2012 02:43. Posts 4067
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On May 11 2012 19:38 MrTortoise wrote:

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Easy, it servers as a hint as to how to say them ... it also lets you tell words apart ,...


no you misunderstood me! i ment like what's the significance of whether there's an i in teamwork or not?
 
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 tripledoubles   Australia. May 12 2012 16:59. Posts 175
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On May 12 2012 01:24 Skullflower wrote:

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Ah yes, the Riki who is already level 6 taking the invis rune even though he sees SF running over to bottle it. Classic move.


Relevant responses:

http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/b/ba/Riki_invis_02.mp3
http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/d/d4/Riki_invis_01.mp3
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 DucK-   Singapore. May 13 2012 17:26. Posts 280
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In DotA pubs, you can actually win games on your own fairly easily.
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 Jisall   United States. May 13 2012 17:29. Posts 1538
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On May 13 2012 17:26 DucK- wrote:
In DotA pubs, you can actually win games on your own fairly easily.


Hell yeah you can. Huskar all day.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
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  L3g3nd_   New Zealand. May 13 2012 22:42. Posts 9595Profile # 

On May 13 2012 17:26 DucK- wrote:
In DotA pubs, you can actually win games on your own fairly easily.

on the flip side, you can also lose games when youve done nothing wrong at all
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 Blimp   May 14 2012 12:24. Posts 44
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The aspect of DOTA that causes agression is that you have 10 players in 1 game playing 10 different heroes. More often than not you have 10 players who all know how to play the 10 heroes and everyone is thinking that the other 9 people are doing it wrong.

When you lose a game of Starcraft it's because you mismanaged 200 food worth of units.
When you lose a game of dota it can easily be blamed on 4 other people.

One of the best ways that I've found to avoid grumpy players is to find some friends on TL :D

TLIHs are great too.

steamid is falcon99hs
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 Yoshi Kirishima   United States. May 14 2012 14:26. Posts 9003
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On May 09 2012 07:38 Imbajoe wrote:
The problem facing a lot of players that I encounter on NA, even the ones with lots of experience, is that they don't know how to properly communicate with other people. They rage and flame, and in doing so think they being part of the solution, when in reality they aren't even helping and possibly making things worse. For example :


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is hostile, rude to your teammates, and don't foster a cohesive team environment. No one is going to play better after hearing that, and they certainly won't want to. However, if you speak respectfully and with constructive criticism, your teammates will be more inclined to respond favorably.

edit: maybe this isn't relevant to the topic, just wanted to vent my frustration at what I see as the main problem in pub games


Disagree actually, that example doesn't include any personal attacks nor insults. It's just someone emphasizing the point that his teammates missed an opportunity to get 3 free kills and should pay more attention next time. Because of the caps and "whyyyyyy meeeeeeeeee" at the end, it doesn't look exactly hostile neither; it looks sort of humorous. If I saw that, I would just say something like " oops sorry..." and expect "it's ok, just try to check your minimap more"

But yes your point I agree with ^^
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 Sweetfrost   Sweden. May 16 2012 17:10. Posts 152
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On May 13 2012 22:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:

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on the flip side, you can also lose games when youve done nothing wrong at all


This is true.
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  SupLilSon   Malaysia. May 17 2012 08:19. Posts 3172Profile # 
The skill level of DOTA2 players, at least in NA, EU is incredibly low. People don't know what to do and aren't willing to learn what to do. I guess since it's beta and there aren't stats people just don't care if they lose 9/10 games. The majority of my DOTA friends stuck with HON because they didn't want to give up their 1900 MMR -.- so I'm stuck fighting the good fight on my own. Finally gave up and uninstalled the game, will just wait till actual game release so I can play with some decent players... sigh
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 nebffa   Australia. May 17 2012 08:40. Posts 759
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Ok what most of the people are saying in this thread is a little misguided - so let me add something to it. I used to play DOTA intensely for a number of years (since 5.60b which is like 7 or 8 years ago now), and right when the first competitive league EVER was coming out for DOTA I was practicing with the team that was #1 on that league... so long ago I forget the name of the clan and the league though lol... I know it sounds bullshit if I don't remember either but that's the truth (what's up). A number of aussies may remember me from Bored Aussies (the aussie server that pretty much became all DOTA quite quickly lol) and from time to time I still get people messaging me on different games asking if I'm nebffa.

Anyway, when I played on BA and was at the top of my skill it was something like every 2nd game I went beyond godlike - the skill level was just like on Azeroth server (where TDA clan was where anyone who really wanted to play DOTA went). You might think oh the players you played were bad, well some were and some weren't - I was just very very good at the game - especially after practicing with the best players in the world with ~1 second delay, coming to Australia and suddenly having almost instant response to your clicks my results just went through the roof.

Anyway what's my point to all this? Basically - when I said something to my team they listened - it wasn't cause of the way I said it, it's because i had that 9-1 next to my name or whatever score it was and people knew that I knew what I was talking about. This is what most people are missing in this thread - noone likes to be told what to fuckin do by someone who clearly is getting pwned. It is just not the way we work - we don't listen to keyboard warriors who just say whatever, we listen to people who know what they're on about.

Anyway so that's my 2c on the matter and before some noob tries to come in and say "oh you are wrong because that is not what i learnt at my leadership training last week at the local milk bar (LOL i dont know what im saying)", sorry but you are the kind of noob i ate for breakfast when playing DOTA years ago


EDIT: btw i stumbled across this thread because i wasnt paying attention and thought i clicked on the diablo 3 forum but instead clicked on the dota 2 forum (lol both have a capital D and a number at the end) and thought oh well since im here might as well enjoy the stay
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 writer22816   China. May 17 2012 08:48. Posts 4772
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On May 17 2012 08:40 nebffa wrote:
Anyway what's my point to all this? Basically - when I said something to my team they listened - it wasn't cause of the way I said it, it's because i had that 9-1 next to my name or whatever score it was and people knew that I knew what I was talking about. This is what most people are missing in this thread - noone likes to be told what to fuckin do by someone who clearly is getting pwned. It is just not the way we work - we don't listen to keyboard warriors who just say whatever, we listen to people who know what they're on about.

Anyway so that's my 2c on the matter and before some noob tries to come in and say "oh you are wrong because that is not what i learnt at my leadership training last week at the local milk bar (LOL i dont know what im saying)", sorry but you are the kind of noob i ate for breakfast when playing DOTA years ago


In my experience even if you go 9-1 or whatever, there are people who will not listen to you. They will either ignore you, or continue to flame you for farming and KSing all game. They will blame you for their feeding because you left them to play 4v5 when in reality it is just because they keep doing stupid shit and getting themselves killed.

On the flip side you have noob Rikis who take all the kills (it's very easy for a Riki to rack up lots of kills because of blink strike + backstab) even though they're clearly horrible and then talk shit about their skill when they're building MoM Vlads Basher, and if you lose the game they will blame it all on the team "because i have so many kills LOLOLOL!!!"
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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 nebffa   Australia. May 17 2012 08:55. Posts 759
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On May 17 2012 08:48 writer22816 wrote:

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In my experience even if you go 9-1 or whatever, there are people who will not listen to you. They will either ignore you, or continue to flame you for farming and KSing all game. They will blame you for their feeding because you left them to play 4v5 when in reality it is just because they keep doing stupid shit and getting themselves killed.

On the flip side you have noob Rikis who take all the kills (it's very easy for a Riki to rack up lots of kills because of blink strike + backstab) even though they're clearly horrible and then talk shit about their skill when they're building MoM Vlads Basher, and if you lose the game they will blame it all on the team "because i have so many kills LOLOLOL!!!"



this is actually not true - yes whilst there are some who do not listen and are just that way inclined, most actually do listen if you know what you are doing and what you are saying is directed at owning the shit out of the other team. i dont know if you reliably got the kill death ratios that i got, and i would likely say that you didnt because you have to be very good to consistently get those scores. if i am wrong i apologise but i dont think i am and it comes right back to my point that people dont like to be told what to do by people who they dont know and are only just as good as them. if i just put myself in their shoes i would be the same i would want these pub players to just fuck off and let me play how i want to play after a long day at work because i just want to relax and clear my head
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 Gummy   United States. May 17 2012 09:28. Posts 2169
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People who get mad at ragers are babies imo. Play to win. Otherwise, gtfo.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
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 Fwizzz   Philippines. May 19 2012 15:13. Posts 752
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Everybody wants to be the star
 
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  Natespank   Canada. June 08 2012 08:54. Posts 448Profile # 
defence of the ancIents.

There is an I...
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 Terrafros   Netherlands. June 08 2012 12:25. Posts 148
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I put people that rage on mute and report them for text abuse. Honestly, there's a way to get a message across other than insulting someone for missing a hook/overextending/failing/whatever.

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 KillerSOS   United States. June 08 2012 12:41. Posts 2026
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I'm always down for 5 man matchmaking. I love to play with TL people .

Steam ID: KillerSOS
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 antelope591   Canada. June 08 2012 13:18. Posts 790
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On May 09 2012 09:37 theang123 wrote:
its a pub game ppl do wat they want...
u want team play go find 5 friends and teamqueue...
i personally hate it when ppl tell me wat to pick...
its ap and i have the rights to play wateva hero i like


agreed....its annoying as fuck when the guy who instapicks Riki or Clinkz is yelling at people cause they aren't picking supports. So you get to pick hard carry cause u clicked it 5 sec sooner? Its a pub I'll play wtf I want D:. There's too many different mentalities and playstyles in a pub to worry about anything other than yourself.
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 riotjune   United States. June 08 2012 13:58. Posts 546
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There's me in team
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 bK-   United States. June 08 2012 14:15. Posts 275
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Well dota is a team game designed to be played by a group as a team. Unfournately dota is really notorious for its "singleplayer" mindset.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
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