| TRaFFiC Canada. May 09 2012 20:39. Posts 465 | Profile # |
I just did a search. There is no feedback thread.
Let me start by saying I'm a long time fan. The improvements he has made are incredible and he obviously does his homework on the players, studying replays etc.
Recently though, I have to say I can't stand parts of his casting. He's consistently saying the player's style is "wrong" or "needs to change." For example, tonight he said Polt needs to change his tvt style of marine/tank. I find that hilarious considering polt is one of the best Terrans in the world and Wolf, at best, plays in the master league. It's the wrong kind of criticism regardless of the caster's skill. People watch the game to see the player's genius. The caster should try to analyze it and make positive comments. He should not rip his build apart. Should not say how it should be. Incontrol does this brilliantly. He adds to what the player is doing instead of taking away from it.
My 2 cents. Perhaps others would like to add feedback.
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 KadaverBB Germany. May 09 2012 20:46. Posts 8299 | Profile # |
I wonder how long it will take for this to degenerate into a total caster bash thread.
That said, i like his casting.
Yes, sometimes he calls things wrong but he is improving steadily and it is happening less and less.
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| Dosey United States. May 09 2012 20:46. Posts 3981 | Profile # |
This is why I mute Code A.
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 CaptainCharisma New Zealand. May 09 2012 20:47. Posts 808 | Profile # |
I don't mind casters criticizing a particular player's style if they can back it up with cogent reasons why that style is inferior. Artosis does this well when he talks about mech vs bio in TvT.
I can't comment on what Wolf said about Polt because I didn't see it, but I assume he probably regurgitated what Artosis says about the match-up?
All in all I would say that Wolf is in the 'average' category of casters. He doesn't have any annoying mannerisms/patterns and has a decent knowledge of the game.
Edit: I will add though that at Dreamhack Day 1 when things were "boring" because lesser players were playing pros, his attitude came across as angry/annoyed (to be fair, Apollo was guilty of this a bit too and I think he is in the top tier of casters). My point is that no matter what the conditions are that you have to cast in, don't let any of that crap come across in your cast. It is disrespectful to the event organizers. Last edit: 2012-05-09 20:52:24 |
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| imMUTAble787 United States. May 09 2012 20:48. Posts 575 | Profile # |
Just started paying attention to him recently, and I think hes pretty good.
I really can't think of anything to complain about, but then again I'm not very picky when it comes to commentators.
Keep up the good work if you read this, Wolf =]Last edit: 2012-05-09 20:48:29 |
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| EscapingJail United States. May 09 2012 20:49. Posts 206 | Profile Blog # |
"I hate this caster I wish he was more like my favorite caster."
Your post doesn't really come off as "feedback" and sounds more like player bias. Casters make points of why people lose games, Polt plays the same opener every TvT. If your opponent knows exactly what you are going to do before the game starts then they get an amazing advantage. This is why Ganzi opened 15 CC on cloud kingdom.
I think Wolf is doing amazing, keep it up! |
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| Frail Iceland. May 09 2012 20:49. Posts 334 | Profile # |
He's okay I guess.
I liked Mole more than him, and the reason I can look past his problems now is Khaldor.
Sorry if I'm negative, but his laugh kills my soul. |
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| TRaFFiC Canada. May 09 2012 20:51. Posts 465 | Profile # |
I really didn't start this thread to bash him. It's genuine criticism and for the most part 90% of his what he says is great.
On May 09 2012 20:51 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
By far his biggest problem is that he acts like a coach when casting. He tends to point out what he perceives as flaws in a player's game plan and then proceeds to give his (often wrong) Master league advice on how Code A progamers ought to play the game. While he is an analytic caster and does a good job of it, I couldn't care less about his opinion on a player's strategy or playstyle. Analyze don't criticize.
well said.Last edit: 2012-05-09 20:53:38 |
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| ChrysaliS_ United States. May 09 2012 20:51. Posts 258 | Profile # |
| By far his biggest problem is that he acts like a coach when casting. He tends to point out what he perceives as flaws in a player's game plan and then proceeds to give his (often wrong) Master league advice on how Code A progamers ought to play the game. While he is an analytic caster and does a good job of it, I couldn't care less about his opinion on a player's strategy or playstyle. Analyze don't criticize. |
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| Tobberoth Sweden. May 09 2012 20:51. Posts 4545 | Profile # |
My opinion on Wolf: He's the worst of the analytical casters I listen to regularly (so Painuser for example is not included), but since I like analytical casters, that still puts him in quite good light for me. I find he calls things wrong quite often and is indeed too critical at times, but at the same time, he has pretty good knowledge and seems to be working pretty hard.
He's one of those casters where I don't want to mute it, but I definitely don't tune in and go "Oh fuck yeah, it's wolf". |
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| Dosey United States. May 09 2012 20:53. Posts 3981 | Profile # |
On May 09 2012 20:49 EscapingJail wrote:
"I hate this caster I wish he was more like my favorite caster."
Your post doesn't really come off as "feedback" and sounds more like player bias. Casters make points of why people lose games, Polt plays the same opener every TvT. If your opponent knows exactly what you are going to do before the game starts then they get an amazing advantage. This is why Ganzi opened 15 CC on cloud kingdom.
I think Wolf is doing amazing, keep it up!
To notice a mistake and bring it to the attention of the viewers is one thing. To question every decision a PRO makes and be negative about virtually every move a PRO makes is just poor casting. I unmuted for the minute I was typing this. In that time I heard:
"I can't believe hes doing this" "He should be doing this" "Why is he doing this" |
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| Jinsho United Kingdom. May 09 2012 20:54. Posts 3023 | Profile # |
He is one of those casters. Some people like that! They feel great when being told that MMA is bad, because they can feel better about themselves in relation.
It's not for me and I can't stand it, but I can just mute him.Last edit: 2012-05-09 20:55:24 |
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| Gladiator6 Sweden. May 09 2012 20:56. Posts 6831 | Profile # |
| I think he's one of the better analytical casters. However like many of you others pointed out, he often questions a pro's decision making. I think he should try to put himself more times in the situation of the pro, instead of saying they're doing the wrong response perhaps explain why they might be doing it, is it gamble or is it lack of scouting etc. |
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| RHoudini Belgium. May 09 2012 20:58. Posts 1323 | Profile # |
On May 09 2012 20:51 TRaFFiC wrote:
I really didn't start this thread to bash him. It's genuine criticism and for the most part 90% of his what he says is great.
So you're not bashing, just starting this thread by writing "I can't stand his casting"? LOL.
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| kAra Germany. May 09 2012 21:00. Posts 1150 | Profile # |
| one of the better casters for sure, great combo with khaldor |
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| zezamer Finland. May 09 2012 21:01. Posts 1805 | Profile # |
On May 09 2012 21:00 kAra wrote:
one of the better casters for sure, great combo with khaldor
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| v3chr0 United States. May 09 2012 21:01. Posts 855 | Profile Blog # |
That's the purpose of threads like these, to bring up the respective Commentator's weak spots so they improve (hopefully).
I like Wolf, hes acceptable in comparison to all, is funny, has personality, has a decent voice, and doesn't get too loud or out of control. He tends to call things a bit early, or make too specific a call for not much of a purpose. In general, I think more Castors need to slow down and think about what they are saying, Tasteless is an example of this, he even says it himself, paraphrase "It's like I go into robot mode sometimes." Nothing wrong with that, just try to take notice and improve if its a passive habit.
and this too, well said.
On May 09 2012 20:51 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
By far his biggest problem is that he acts like a coach when casting. He tends to point out what he perceives as flaws in a player's game plan and then proceeds to give his (often wrong) Master league advice on how Code A progamers ought to play the game. While he is an analytic caster and does a good job of it, I couldn't care less about his opinion on a player's strategy or playstyle. Analyze don't criticize.
All in all though, he's a good caster, he isn't cocky, or always trying to belittle his cocaster or have a back and forth when someone jokes about what could be taken serious. His laugh is hilarious, lol, I know some people don't like it, but I find it entertaining. |
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| MidgetHumper United Kingdom. May 09 2012 21:01. Posts 221 | Profile # |
| Personally I cant stand any code A casters and there for just mute the stream. Last edit: 2012-05-09 21:02:19 |
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