TL Mafia LV - Page 47

On May 30 2012 03:33 supersoft wrote:

okay cool. I didn't read your post and I am glad we have almost the same/similar result. interesting.

On May 30 2012 02:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Supersoft, are you scum, or are you just acting silly on purpose?
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On May 30 2012 00:04 supersoft wrote:
hey i really appreciate your effort,
but why are you guys always trying so hard. Finding scum is a lot easier than you might think. Don't think around 3 corners. Try to catch the little things. Like that Zealos defends toad at a point when it was really useless to defend him. Neither was he in danger of getting lynched, nor is reducing the pressure that is currently put on a player helping the town. A reasonable explanation for his behaviour is that he's scum, he knows Toad is not. He wanted to get a little towncred. Or not even this, he just wanted to say something. Maybe Toad is even scum, too... See? There are plenty of reasonable explanations for his behaviour if he's scum and almost none if he's town.
It's not a super strong case, but it is a case.

Every other case so far except my toadcase (who is currently on ice until he's confirmed mason) was uncovered and not well thought out. Especially our lynch yesterday. That case was terrible. There was really nothing about it. I could write a lot about why this player was a bad lynch. From an overall gamepolicy point of view because we got no information - maybe some about wiggles - and an individual point of view, because he obviously was town.

Here you say that the case was terrible and sinensis was obviously town. As well, you say that it was a bad lynch. However, when it was actually Day 1, you said no such things. It's only now, after sinensis has flipped that you're coming in here making posts about how he was very obviously town and that the lynch was terrible. The closest (and only!) post to that from before the flip is this:

On May 29 2012 08:25 supersoft wrote:
aww yeah i filtered this sinensis real quick. Completely useless fellow, hang him if you want. Reducing disturbing noise is better than nothing. I'd prefer reducing mafia kp, but you cannot have it all :-/

In which it is not a very good defense of a player who is "obviously" town. It's not going to do anything to change someone's mind. As well, this came after I said that if elected I would lynch sinensis, so there's no excuse like what you said in this post:
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Of not realizing I was actually going to kill him. I made that very clear in my post, where I stated, "If elected mayor, I'm planning on lynching Sinensis". I don't think it gets any clearer than that. So, you did nothing to try to convince anyone that sinensis was town, which wasn't obvious, considering I had the support of 11 people in lynching him, and you did nothing to convince me to change the lynch. However, after the lynch you're now up in arms about my lynch choice and how I've acted. So, you're either being silly, or you're trying to shovel suspicion on me because I mislynched and just became a lot easier of a target to do so on.

Here's a question for you. If you believed so strongly in these things, why do you only mention them after the flip, and not before when it actually matters and can make a difference?

I also disagree with what Toad said, but that comes down to what we thought about lynches, and who was a good lynch. Obviously, we disagreed.

Okay I have to admit, I really didn't pay enough attention to the votes. I think I already wrote that down somewhere. Bad play. Really. But as far as i know, we discussed zealos as a lynchtarget while you were still around. You didn't react and killed sinesis instead.
I dind't pay too much attention, because I thought we could swing something around in the last hour. Somehow i am used to that especially when there is one guy deciding who to lynch.
In my eyes the common sense at the end of day1 was that zealos is the best lynch. However you refused to carry out that lynch, you failed and now we're here.

Moreover I thought i don't need to defend sinsanis more than that, because we already had a better target. I mean I told you I think he's town. there is not much about it. When I thought about him later more deeply, and reread your cases, I saw that you had nothing real against him. Poor logic and nothing else. Obviously i speak that out.

Now you can't turn that around and blame me for not coming forward with that earlier?! I somehow trusted the general consens and hadn't had time yesterday to go into detail. Now I see more clearly and not because sinsasis flipped.
You guys were policy lynching him because he wanted to policylynch.

That was really bad. Really. Don't argue about that. I am not stupid.

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it's not "super scummy". You failed to explain what's so scummy about that. Your assumption that everyone votes anyone is just wrong. It won't happen. The votes will be on a few players, people can reasonable explain why they think that these particular players are town.
Regarding the lanchtarget I favored a "democratic" system independant from the mayorelection. In my eyes that would have been the most reasonable thing.