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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 02:06. Posts 9673
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Because like you I need vet support to ly.ch a vet. Nothing strange about that.

No, from your first post you've made it clear that I'm not welcome in your order. Even now you speak in the past tense...indicating that even if it wear possible, the time is passed.

It doesn't matter now. You don't want me to work with you even though by your estimation I'm skilled enough to "lead the scumteam"...which I find maddening.

I hope your.conviction is as strong as your.suspicion. I'm town and I won't be just LETTING you lynch me.
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 02:10. Posts 9673
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Toad.I am trying not to talk to you like an idiot...trying something new where you are.concerned. If I had known you would think its antitown for me to do so I wouldn't have bothered.
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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 kitaman27   United States. May 31 2012 02:14. Posts 4532
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On May 31 2012 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because like you I need vet support to ly.ch a vet. Nothing strange about that.

No, from your first post you've made it clear that I'm not welcome in your order. Even now you speak in the past tense...indicating that even if it wear possible, the time is passed.

It doesn't matter now. You don't want me to work with you even though by your estimation I'm skilled enough to "lead the scumteam"...which I find maddening.

I hope your.conviction is as strong as your.suspicion. I'm town and I won't be just LETTING you lynch me.


You didn't address my main concerns


On May 31 2012 01:51 kitaman27 wrote:
I counted 17 instances in your filter where you found me suspicious, wanted me lynched, or suggested that I should be shot. My policy has not changed. The only change is that I have written a case against you and Meapak no longer suspects me. So tell me, what has changed that made you go from the point of stating that I "claimed scum in the thread" to being town. You say you cannot build a case against me, but that did not stop you from pushing for my death the previous cycle. What gives?

Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 02:18. Posts 9673
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I slept on it. I took the fact that I couldn't make a case on you and the fact that my entire contention with you is about tone and one aspect of your play (focusing on the lyncher) to mean that maybe I'm just wrong.

I pushed your death D1 and N1 because you were my strongest read. My read hasn't REVERSED as you imply, you're by no means obvTown to me, but if we work together I feel like I can get a better read on you than if you just keep pushing me and I keep pushing you.

I'm trying to learn from my mistakes. Let me bro.
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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 kitaman27   United States. May 31 2012 02:27. Posts 4532
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I SEE YOU PLAYING DOTA 2 HASSYBABY!

DON'T THINK YOU CAN HIDE FROM US.
Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 02:29. Posts 9673
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Dude Hassy is playing this game? wtf?

Can we just go on a lurker spree? Seriously though, there are a lot of active players in here and if all of us are town we might rip ourselves apart while scum lurk.
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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 Blazinghand   United States. May 31 2012 02:32. Posts 11972
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Lynch G32
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 Hassybaby   United Kingdom. May 31 2012 02:40. Posts 8392
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On May 31 2012 02:27 kitaman27 wrote:
I SEE YOU PLAYING DOTA 2 HASSYBABY!

DON'T THINK YOU CAN HIDE FROM US.


But I haven't played since...well last night with BH actually.

I'm still following the thread but I don't exactly have too much to add except this feels like LIII all over again. The idea of lynching VE based on balance is just weird to me. While the thinking is sort of understandable, you're not taking into account that Grey rushed out the role PMs. Plus he fact that they could just be assholes and stack one side more.
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 Toadesstern   Germany. May 31 2012 02:43. Posts 6103
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On May 31 2012 02:40 Hassybaby wrote:

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But I haven't played since...well last night with BH actually.

I'm still following the thread but I don't exactly have too much to add except this feels like LIII all over again. The idea of lynching VE based on balance is just weird to me. While the thinking is sort of understandable, you're not taking into account that Grey rushed out the role PMs. Plus he fact that they could just be assholes and stack one side more.

do you think town-VE would post something like this:

On May 31 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kita are you town?

I mean, obviously I have doubts...but I was unable to make a cohesive case against you last night when I tried. I think you're playing a pretty manipulative game, but not necessarily scummy after trying to build a case. I'm willing to work with you if you're town.


?
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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 02:47. Posts 9673
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On May 31 2012 02:43 Toadesstern wrote:

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do you think town-VE would post something like this:

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?

I do. While you're pushing my lynch Toad is.there anything you need from me?
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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 Toadesstern   Germany. May 31 2012 02:51. Posts 6103
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explain why you did posts like these:

On May 30 2012 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, cool...Toad town...

......but why? Why would scum leave a soon-to-be-confirmed-town alive?


On May 30 2012 09:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
He might have been a blue-snipe. Not running for office and lurking into oblivion speak to me of scum aiming for blue....that's the only thing I can imagine is up with the Mattchew shot....but again...WHY NOT SHOOT THE SOON-TO-BE-CONFIRMED-TOWN?

when you're at it.

What's the point? To me it looks like confusion for no reason. I don't know why mafia did not shoot me, how do you expect anyone to know that?
So why do you post a question like that not only once but twice. Seems like it was kind of important for you.

Think I faked the mason?
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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 02:58. Posts 9673
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Because it confused me and I wanted others' opinions. It seemed silly to me that if you're a mason as you claim that scum would leave you alive to be confirmed the next day. Tactically it was an oddity to me so I wanted.to know what town thought.
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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 Hassybaby   United Kingdom. May 31 2012 02:59. Posts 8392
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Except for the question, I don't mind it too much in context, but I'm failing to see the point of it. To me it's VE saying that he's sorta of on the fence of kita....so just leave it for now till you're more sure.

The last sentence struck me though:


On May 31 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kita are you town?

I mean, obviously I have doubts...but I was unable to make a cohesive case against you last night when I tried. I think you're playing a pretty manipulative game, but not necessarily scummy after trying to build a case. I'm willing to work with you if you're town.


Well...obviously? If you're town and someone else is town, you'd be willing to work with them. If they're not town, odds are you won't be willing tow work with them. Why the emphasis on that VE? Hell, why even say it?
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 Mr. Wiggles   Canada. May 31 2012 03:01. Posts 4684
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I'm going to say right off the bat that I disagree with the VE case. He's one of my town-reads. I don't see why him opposing Toad being elected into office makes him scum. As well, I don't really see why what he's posting makes him scum.

Instead, I think we should go with lynching Gambit today. The case on him has already been made, and it's pretty solid based on the information we have. As well, calling him scum actually looked pretty polarizing at first, and there were a couple people who soft-defended him:

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Which could give us some decent information and leads if/when he flips scum. They all look odd to me, since none of them actively address whether they think gambit is scum or not. Instead, they're "We don't lynch lurkers", "I'd rather wait" (Why?), "You made a mistake about the voting. Lynch this other lurker instead!". Notice that none of them actually defend Gambit as town, they just try to find excuses not to lynch him. I find this interesting, since I could particularly see strongandbig or austinmc making a mistake like that as scum as they seem more inexperienced.
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 Mr. Wiggles   Canada. May 31 2012 03:01. Posts 4684
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And so it's in here too:
##Vote: GambitX32
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 Toadesstern   Germany. May 31 2012 03:05. Posts 6103
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I'm not going to vote gambit unless he refuses to give me the name of his char and I'd say a lynch on that guy is like flipping a coin.
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 Mattchew   United States. May 31 2012 03:06. Posts 5120
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On May 31 2012 01:10 supersoft wrote:

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nvm. you dont understand my thoughtprocess and the pros for a scumteam to have one of them fake a hit. i draw that comclusion, because you keep repeating the same things i already read. on the other hand you're probably telling the truth now. i think your town gj.

If you think I am town, do you think that SnB is scum?

Can you elaborate on your thought process so that maybe I can understand it. The way I see it, is that the only way that my fake claim works in favor of a scum agenda, is if I use it to determine my innocence. The only way to do that is to convince town I was indeed shot by scum, but if I were scum I would know that WBG and MZ were to claim, thus outting my claim in a probable 1 for 1 trade which in no way is good for scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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 Mr. Wiggles   Canada. May 31 2012 03:07. Posts 4684
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On May 31 2012 03:05 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to vote gambit unless he refuses to give me the name of his char and I'd say a lynch on that guy is like flipping a coin.

Why? Just saying that you don't like the lynch doesn't help us determine if the lynch is actually bad. If you don't want to see him lynched, you'll have to explain why.
"Dulce et decorum est pro Aiur mori" -Zealot | TL Mafia is the best sub-forum around, no lie!
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 austinmcc   United States. May 31 2012 03:08. Posts 2942
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On May 31 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because it confused me and I wanted others' opinions. It seemed silly to me that if you're a mason as you claim that scum would leave you alive to be confirmed the next day. Tactically it was an oddity to me so I wanted.to know what [austinmcc] thought.

I think it's silly and odd as well. I don't buy that he's just a green mason, but I also don't like the early explanation that was thrown out that he could be a lyncher. Not gonna find the quote, but Greymist said that lyncher/assassin wouldn't be "shooting blind." Forumite's flip shows what Grey might have meant, where the third party is given a role name, as well as a mechanic to help them figure out what player has that role. If we think that applies to the lyncher, if we have one, the idea that a lyncher would push hard for mayor to get a D1 lynch and win looks weaker, as he wouldn't yet know what player had his target role.

Do you stop your thought process at silly and oddity? Do you find Toad scummy because of it? Do any of my thoughts concerning third parties or variations on roles make sense given Toad's claim?
Fe fi fo fum.
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 VisceraEyes   United States. May 31 2012 03:09. Posts 9673
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Because unlike other games I've played where I was so tunneled in on players that I couldn't work with them, this game I'm trying to play nice with others. If you want to take that as me scummily subverting my meta or whatever you feel free. I think it will make me a better player regardless of whether or not I'm lynched for it.
Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET****
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