TL Mafia LV

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On May 30 2012 11:48 grush57 wrote:
I'm being mean Kenpachi, you're a pretty cool dude, I'm sorry :"(.
There have been rumors, starting in LIV.
That I have, mystical powers.
They rarely unleash.
This, is a special case.
(LOL YEAH I JUST MADE A LIST WHEN I SAID MAKING LISTS ARE SCUMMY DEAL WITH IT)
You would except him to pick 1-2 vets 2-3 normals and 2-3 noobs right
1.(The smart, cunning godfather) Mr.Wiggles(1 vet down) He posts long, too long to read. He knows better than to lynch someone with no information. I also heard he is pretty good at mafia. If you look at his posts, only a page and there is a lot of indecisiveness in his posts.
2.(The undeserving vet)Mattchew(MAKE IT 1.5) His trap, was actually a trap to get a townie to question him and to get an easy peasy day2 town lynch. He was also lurking and he is a vet common bro you are better.
3.(The bigshot normal)StrongandBig(Pewpew 1)Im running for mayor, jk, no seriously. Et, no gf Mr.Wiggles.Buss my buddy gambit.
4.(Deh studious lurker)Gambitxc32(1(forduhnubs)) I can imagine the qt now(YO GAMBIT MY MAN U GONNA LURK CUZ ALL DEEZ NUBZ ARE LURKING LOL, THO WHEN THEY FIGURE THAT ME, WIGGZ, IS GF U GOTTA VOTE ET SO WE DON'T LOOK CONNECTED)## Studious VOTE: agree. Oh and yeah he is a lurker and was scared of wbg getting on his case and went for him. He obviously is paying attention to game responding to jaj(?) post asking him about stuff or w/e lol.
5.(idk actually, lets say normal)Zealos(yeah were about quick to lynch someone who is town(LOL THEY DONT KNWO THAT I KNOW WHO IS TOWN) aww yeah towncred(like they were actually gonna lynch toad lol such easy cred town fools) Better lurk it up you know, be scummy and put no effort LOL wtf zealos.
6.papapanda or... Manason. When Kenpachi(♥) mentioned him I was like, holy shit these town nubs let another scum hide, brbbbb gotta check dem filter and this took a long time to post and I saw that you put starsenses. Now, I think you might say that or w\e because u think I'll mislead them, but no i am a wizard. Basically, he was doing a bunch of a lil commenting on people not on my starsense list saying bs, less than a page of filter, however he commented on my starsenses so I love him and probly not mafia. Manason- MMK CHECKED HIS FILTER 3RD PAGE-DONT LYNCH GRUSH POLICY LYNCHES ARE BAD. Okay, someone in your QT played LIV and knew how I screwed up town and told everyone to not lynch me so I'd screw up the game. All the people who wanted me dead early game was town(Sinesis and Bh) Noob mistake of saying(ooh protect my gf Mr. Wiggles) more 1 liners blah blah blah too long, OMG YOU GUYS ARE ON MY BUDDY LETS BRING UP KITAMAN27. No, he made the same mistake as me in LIV, randomly voted someone. My starsense powers sais he is town.

Okay so I did all this in TL (LOL I KNOW) and the thread has probably progressed alot as this took like 20-30 mins to write. Please note I am unsure about the 6th mafia. Oh, and a lot of the bad grammar was on purpose.

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On May 29 2012 14:38 sToFu wrote:
I'm still in high school, so my hours of replies will generally be limited to ~4pm to ~12am PST, minus activities and homework.
As a note: I'm fairly slow to give out a “scum judgment”, so I'll be indicating my degrees of trust. Also, everything is off the top of my head, so I probably missed things while skimming. I'd greatly appreciate being corrected if I say something blatantly wrong about a player (ie saying doesn't post at all when they did multiple times). Finally, I'm grouping people into general activity levels, seperating notable people. My judgments for each individual are obviously different, but not significant enough to make a difference in posting.

Mattchew, hassybaby, phagga, Alderan, Cwave, GambitX32, MajuGarzett, MidnightGladius, papapanda, FrimTofu, meeple: They may or may not have posted, but I honestly can't say I remember anything said by these players (that was of any significance). No judgement.

Sinensis – To be honest, I was ~70% confident that he was scum, and on my initial read through the thread, I read all his posts under the assumption that what he was saying was from the perspective of an invader. This probably resulted in slight changes in my perception of him and everyone that he commented on. What essentially damned him for me was his insistence on the lynching of grush, even after noticeable improvements.

Hyaach, austinmcc – Nothing of note (off the top of my head). I do like that they are posting. No real judgement.

Grush57 – Could have been policy lynched: promptly cleans up his act. I have a nagging feeling about him, but there's no solid argument that can be made about him.

Zealos, jaj22, Forumite, MZ, VE – Neutral to town reads on all of these, with varying strength. Notably, VE and MZ have been quite forthright about their viewpoints, while Zealos and Forumite have been slightly more diplomatic. I do like that jaj22 is calling people out on broken promises. For Manason... I honestly can't remember much about him, though he (probably) belongs with this group.

Kenpachi, Manason – Sorry, can't remember anything. I do know you two have been fairly active.

Kita – For some reason, all I can really remember off the top of my head is odd and convoluted “analysis” and, after being pressured, a couple one-liners and no real response. I'll have to review those sections more carefully.

ET – Even if his “we should all talk, including the noobies” spiel was most likely a PR move in order to appeal to the (apparently) large base of new players in this game, it is nevertheless an important point to make. I do like the fact that in his early argument with BH, he didn't get too emotional or involved. As others have said, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised to see him flip scum, but, at the same time, I believe that he is, by virtue of his actions, more likely to be town. This is reflected in my thought process in my vote post.

Wiggles – Doing a lot right, not a lot wrong. Can't say much aside from strong town feeling, as reflected in my vote. However, he's being a little too diplomatic, which I find discomforting.

BH – I'm not going to lie, your early tirade and fight against SnB and ET, as well as your early insistence of grush lynch, have appeared extremely suspicious. On the other hand, your newer actions reflect

Toad, ss, snb – I dislike, but understand, snb's cessation of activity after his early fight with BH and the shadiness of his campaign for pardoner. While I understand and agree with the arguments against him, I can't help but think he deserves at least more time to provide better insight into his actual allegiance. Toad, ss – that awkward couple that keeps trying to keep dissociating (probably the wrong word :/) themselves from one another but can't seem to do it. Leaning scum.

If you want a more detailed analysis on any one person, I'd be happy to do it tomorrow (too much homework left undone over Vet's weekend).

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On May 29 2012 16:50 sToFu wrote:


I agree with that. Rereading my post, I realize that I didn't properly convey my thoughts nor detail them correctly.

I agree with you in that his actions make sense. I apparently didn't finish my description of him, but it essentially says that I understood that he became emotional and that I wasn't taking that much meaning out of it besides suspicion.

The reason I felt it suspicious was two-fold: first of all, it felt as if he were overreacting greatly to fairly minor accusations, something in my (outside) experience more often than not attributed to members of the mafia. I feel as if he jumped on SnB to prove a point - that he is capable of rooting out scum - but in the process became engrossed

As for Toad, his posting history is shady - no one can deny that - and, in my rush to finish the summary, failed to say that I believe toad is lyncher (as I did in my previous post). That said, I believe that he's fairly innocuous and that his role claim of mason allows us to give him the benefit of the doubt until his "special mason" powers allows us discover his actual alignment.

Last thing: For me, intuition is only the method with which I choose to read more carefully into actions. If my intuition leads me to believe I have a new/different case, then I will be relying much more heavily on reason and actual post histories than on first impressions made from a single skim through the thread.

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