| ne4aJIb Russian Federation. May 11 2012 00:03. Posts 1346 | Profile Blog # |
| StarCraft: BroodWar's Time of Death - 22 September 2012 |
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| Pure-SC2 United Kingdom. May 11 2012 00:05. Posts 1301 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 23:53 andrewlt wrote:
Can we have a separate LR thread in the BW section? I think almost all of the forum veterans who understand both games will flock to the BW section.
lol. Or maybe, they would go to the BW LR to discuss the BW games, and the SC2 LR to discuss the SC2 games?
Sheesh, even discussing the LR threads is an opportunity to be elitist ass. |
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| ggrrg Bulgaria. May 11 2012 00:08. Posts 1932 | Profile Blog # |
I guess this will be the last season of bw 
Nevertheless, I'm excited for the future. Let's see how the big bw stars cope with sc2. |
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| vOdToasT Sweden. May 11 2012 00:12. Posts 1567 | Profile Blog # |
This is going to suck donkey balls
Players having to practice both games will lead to mediocre games.
The end of the beautiful legend is upon us. :'(
Legacy of the void better be damn good since it's going to replace the best strategy game ever made.
The three most beautiful things that I know of are:
1. The universe, and physics
2. StarCraft: Brood War
3. Music
And now the end is finally coming. I can't fucking believe it.Last edit: 2012-05-11 00:15:02 |
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| Gosi Sweden. May 11 2012 00:15. Posts 3154 | Profile # |
| I still wonder if they will broadcast the SC2 games in 4:3 like they did at the WCG qualifer and LoL atm? Such a fail if they do. |
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| Neo7 United States. May 11 2012 00:17. Posts 887 | Profile Blog # |
Bo1 Ace Match SC2 if necessary
I am not happy about this. Needs to be BW ACE Match. |
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| Pure-SC2 United Kingdom. May 11 2012 00:19. Posts 1301 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 00:17 Neo7 wrote:
Bo1 Ace Match SC2 if necessary
I am not happy about this. Needs to be BW ACE Match.
What about a rotating ace match? i.e, round 1 is BW, round2 is SC2?
Or is it BW or no dice? |
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| Neo7 United States. May 11 2012 00:20. Posts 887 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 00:19 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 00:17 Neo7 wrote:
Bo1 Ace Match SC2 if necessary
I am not happy about this. Needs to be BW ACE Match.
What about a rotating ace match? i.e, round 1 is BW, round2 is SC2? Or is it BW or no dice?
No dice. If it included teams from GSTL or was only GSTL then I would agree to SC2 alternating or no BW ace match respectively. The KeSPA teams have their greatest skill in Brood War so a BW ACE Match guarantees a good match.Last edit: 2012-05-11 00:21:11 |
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| TheDougler Canada. May 11 2012 00:25. Posts 5285 | Profile # |
| Wish it was BW ace match but I've got to say I am fucking excited for this. |
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| ancientmariner May 11 2012 00:25. Posts 116 | Profile # |
I'm sure that given some time Starcraft 2 can produce the same levels of excitement and players showing the same level of perfection as we are currently seeing with Broodwar, but I still wish this day wouldn't come.
Fact is that these are two different games so it's sad that one of them is going. I love watching both Sc:Bw and Sc2, but I think I will only watch the Broodwar matches of this Proleague. Proleague is a Broodwar league and GSL is a Sc2 league and I would love things to stay this way. I'm also not looking forward to seeing these Broodwar legends getting smashed at Sc2 as much as the Sc2 players would loose in a game of Broodwar, when the next Proleague comes around. If they actually practice enough Sc2 to be on par with the current Sc2 pros then the quality of the Bw matches will probably be sad this season.
On May 11 2012 00:12 vOdToasT wrote:
Legacy of the void better be damn good since it's going to replace the best strategy game ever made.
It's in Blizzard's hand to put in less boring units... (bring back reavers? or something)Last edit: 2012-05-11 00:38:29 |
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| Itachii Poland. May 11 2012 00:43. Posts 12440 | Profile Blog # |
RIP BroodWar, its unfortunate that this terrific game has to die in such shitty circumstances in forced cooperation with its "still developing" sequel.
bye TL |
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 IntoTheWow is awesome. May 11 2012 00:45. Posts 31040 | Profile Blog # |
Putting SC2 as the ace match is dumb decision. If they wanted to introduce BW fans to SC2, they should have made it so:
BW
SC2
BW ace match
That way you 'force' bw people to watch some sc2 (at least sporadically) while they wait to see if there's an ace match, and if there's one, watch what's in between till it's played. |
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| Ribbon United States. May 11 2012 00:47. Posts 5020 | Profile Blog # |
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=336480
Replays with a protoss Firebathero on Korean top masters. Since Firebathero is confirmed to play under that name, likely the real one. His opponent was a foreign semi-pro, and these are a month old. I ran them through SC2gears to get some numbers. A minute here is a normal human minute, not a Blizzard minute
APM: 224
EAPM: 148 Redundancy: 33%
Macro APM: 77
Micro APM: 163
Average game length (with a sample size of two PvTs): 17:24
Game 599
Macro seemed solid, but not Aria-level "wow", but he was playing the most passive terran in the world, so he didn't have to defend any pressure or drops. Really not a good game, even for SC2. FBH keeps his money low off two bases, but it starts to creep up a bit when he takes his third. Terran doesn't play that well (no drops, sits under storms), but FBH still loses
Game 600, played a week later
Most of the same. Terran was not very good (compared to pros), so hard to judge, as he had little pressure. Money issues on 3 base again, getting to 1000/500 at the 15 minute mark. Just before the 20 minute mark, he's at 1300/1300. He makes a bunch of HT after that to spend 1000 of that gas, but still has 4-digit minerals, just chillin', not being zealots, even though he's at 150 supply going zealot/archon. It's not a matter of not enough production, either, as the nexuses in his main, natural, and third are all sitting at 100 energy. He seems to be able to spend gas OR minerals, but not both.
He's not awful, but if this is the vaunted BW mechanics at work, then SC2 Proleague might be in trouble. He should've been chronoing those gateways and keeping his money down :|Last edit: 2012-05-11 00:48:01 |
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| lugaidster Chile. May 11 2012 00:54. Posts 25 | Profile # |
| I didn't read anything about international streams. Will there be some? |
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| Eywa- Canada. May 11 2012 00:54. Posts 3012 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2012 16:04 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 15:50 Simplistik wrote:
The sun is setting over BroodWar. Soon it will be good night.
If SC2 continues to rise in general popularity, would the BW community ever approach a tournament and perhaps hold a smaller LAN tournament within these larger tournaments. BW could use the current global appeal of SC2 as a jump start to spark global interest in BW. Capitalize on those people who are not big PC gamers, but are considering a switch and can fully run BW, or those who are tight on money and want to try the SC experience for cheap. It may be overly optimistic, but you are still allowed to play BW.
What you're discussing here is virtually impossible, everything that BW does will have to be on it's own, and even then, anyone who pushed it to become huge (which is not impossible) would end up in a lawsuit against Blizzard - That much is a guarantee, they would never allow a rising BW threat to perhaps jeopardize 2-3 extra sales on Starcraft 2.1 and Starcraft 2.2. Anything that would involve attempting to get Starcraft: Brood War onto the stage at big LANs would fall under deaf ears. |
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| Eywa- Canada. May 11 2012 00:55. Posts 3012 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 00:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
Putting SC2 as the ace match is dumb decision. If they wanted to introduce BW fans to SC2, they should have made it so:
BW
SC2
BW ace match
That way you 'force' bw people to watch some sc2 (at least sporadically) while they wait to see if there's an ace match, and if there's one, watch what's in between till it's played.
The biggest issue in my opinion is not going to be the ace match, but the mediocre games. |
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| Zergneedsfood United States. May 11 2012 00:55. Posts 5352 | Profile Blog # |
| I like using FBH as my benchmark for vaunted BW mechanics too. He's such a great standard, especially since he beat Savior in that one game where he floated so much money he could just sit on two bases and make battlecruisers. |
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 Amlitzer United States. May 11 2012 00:56. Posts 468 | Profile # |
| They really should make the ace match be bw still, but obviously this was blizzard's decision and not kespa's so it's highly doubtful it will change. Also, if they are going to give sc2 the honor of being played in PL then they need to do it with non-trash maps. Has KeSPA confirmed at all if their bw map making team will switch over to sc2? It would sure be a breath of fresh air to get some decent maps in sc2 for once. It's a shame that possible the last PL will be such a sham. |
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| R3demption United States. May 11 2012 00:59. Posts 554 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 00:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
Putting SC2 as the ace match is dumb decision. If they wanted to introduce BW fans to SC2, they should have made it so:
BW
SC2
BW ace match
That way you 'force' bw people to watch some sc2 (at least sporadically) while they wait to see if there's an ace match, and if there's one, watch what's in between till it's played.
But forcing the most deciding match to be BW when BW will not be in next season would be confusing for the players to practice I think. I think the change was put in place for the players and not really the fans. |
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