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| fabiano Brazil. May 14 2012 13:54. Posts 3824 | Profile Blog # |
| Devourers are hardly used, just like Scouts |
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| Torpedo.Vegas United States. May 14 2012 14:36. Posts 1842 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 13:53 icystorage wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 13:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Slightly off topic, but I didn't think this deserved it own thread:
I played quite a bit of BW, but I never quite understood at what point the devourer becomes useful. I've read the wiki on it, but the unit felt so bulky and shot so slow that it just seemed like waste. I understand maybe a couple of them, but science vessels for example have more of a usefull role then they do. Or am I way off?
(For the record I was never uber competitive in traditional BW, though I did play. I sunk most of my hours in UMS or Custom games.)
you could as in the simple questions simple answers thread  well, for one, their spores slow the attack speed of other air units too when stacked. they have a lot of hp too so they dont go down easily
Oh then I'll toss it in there thanks for tip. |
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| Pelopidas Canada. May 14 2012 15:20. Posts 221 | Profile # |
| Devourers are sometimes used in hivetech zvz, and against sair reaver that transitions into carriers. |
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| Manimal_pro Romania. May 14 2012 18:16. Posts 981 | Profile # |
| it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1 |
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| blubbdavid Switzerland. May 14 2012 18:43. Posts 2241 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 14:36 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 13:53 icystorage wrote: On May 14 2012 13:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Slightly off topic, but I didn't think this deserved it own thread:
I played quite a bit of BW, but I never quite understood at what point the devourer becomes useful. I've read the wiki on it, but the unit felt so bulky and shot so slow that it just seemed like waste. I understand maybe a couple of them, but science vessels for example have more of a usefull role then they do. Or am I way off?
(For the record I was never uber competitive in traditional BW, though I did play. I sunk most of my hours in UMS or Custom games.)
you could as in the simple questions simple answers thread  well, for one, their spores slow the attack speed of other air units too when stacked. they have a lot of hp too so they dont go down easily
Oh then I'll toss it in there thanks for tip.
Mutas + Devourers = aerial rape. Devourers slow the enemy airship's attack rate. Additionally, it applies an debuff, which makes the affected unit take 1 more damage. This might not be much, but when there are 9 debuffs on a unit, he will take 9 more damage per attack. A mutalisk makes 9-3-1 damage with it's glaive worm. Now imagine a single muta shooting at three corsairs that have nine stacks of violet goo on them. The mutalisk will deal 18-12-10 damage per attack.
On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote: it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1
Root for KT.Last edit: 2012-05-14 18:44:46 |
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| BLinD-RawR India. May 14 2012 18:46. Posts 24612 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote: it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1
root for Team 8. |
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| Ribbon United States. May 14 2012 19:22. Posts 5020 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote: it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1
Why would you root for either of those teams? It's no fun to root for a favorite. Root for T8, or Ace, or Khan or something. |
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| BLinD-RawR India. May 14 2012 19:31. Posts 24612 | Profile Blog # |
| another sad thing about this season, ts really impossible to write a "Why Team X will win this season" thread because we have no idea how the players do in SC2. |
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Kiett United States. May 14 2012 19:34. Posts 3583 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 19:22 Ribbon wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 18:16 Manimal_pro wrote: it's so hard for me to decide if I am going to root for KT Rolster or SKT T1
Why would you root for either of those teams? It's no fun to root for a favorite. Root for T8, or Ace, or Khan or something.
Oh, I assure you. It is most certainly fun to root for SKT ^_^ |
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| Torpedo.Vegas United States. May 14 2012 20:00. Posts 1842 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 19:31 BLinD-RawR wrote: another sad thing about this season, ts really impossible to write a "Why Team X will win this season" thread because we have no idea how the players do in SC2.
Somewhat intersting aspect is that the players and teams do not know either. I would think that season after season of competeing, teams learned what players are good at what and when they are likely to be played on what map. But from my understanding, not even players who are friends talk about their abilities or likes and dislikes outside of the team. They are just as blind. |
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| RamenStyle United States. May 14 2012 20:38. Posts 1929 | Profile # |
| Oh my gaaaawwdd. So the SC2/BW mix thing is happening. I am so disappointed right now. |
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sGs.Stregon United States. May 14 2012 20:55. Posts 161 | Profile # |
| this is like a scene out of Waking Life.. Where is a light switch, i need to know if this is real or a dream -.- im heartbroken. I guess as long as Turn still tears it up in Sc:Bw I can live with only Bo3 for Sc:Bw games, dunno what im going todo during those 3 games for that other game they are showing.. I mean really, its called starcraft too. Like Hey guys, Im StarCraft too i sware.. Just shows desperation for sales., Last edit: 2012-05-14 21:01:21 |
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| Zergneedsfood United States. May 14 2012 21:09. Posts 5352 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 11:14 SarcasmMonster wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 09:57 Zergneedsfood wrote: On May 14 2012 04:30 fabiano wrote: I'm not a veteran.
I will follow the SC2 SPL, at least for a while. I expect it to be very boring, but here I am giving yet another chance for SC2 to show me that it can be at least half exciting as BW.
I've given countless chances for SC2, my patience is running low though.
Edit: btw, if BW has to go, then I truly want SC2 to become good, I want to continue watching SKT1 roflstomping KT in every SPL. I want to keep seeing Fantasy TvTs, Bisu winning OSL.
You do know that Bisu winning OSLs in SC2 will be meaningless, right?
It would mean a lot to his fans <3
Uhhh, not really. It'd kind of be like one of those events where people will go "Yeah, he won an....OSL?" But does that really mean anything when the OSL is about SC2?
Really? Have Bisu fans stooped so low as to say "ANY OSL WILL DO. JUST WIN ONE."
If that's the case, I'll just stop talking because I'm just going to laugh. Oh Zow.....if only you read things like this.
On May 14 2012 11:28 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 09:57 Zergneedsfood wrote: On May 14 2012 04:30 fabiano wrote: I'm not a veteran.
I will follow the SC2 SPL, at least for a while. I expect it to be very boring, but here I am giving yet another chance for SC2 to show me that it can be at least half exciting as BW.
I've given countless chances for SC2, my patience is running low though.
Edit: btw, if BW has to go, then I truly want SC2 to become good, I want to continue watching SKT1 roflstomping KT in every SPL. I want to keep seeing Fantasy TvTs, Bisu winning OSL.
You do know that Bisu winning OSLs in SC2 will be meaningless, right?
im sure he'd do anything to get a hold of that trophy.
Yeah. Doesn't stop it from being meaningless though.  Last edit: 2012-05-14 21:09:21 |
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| figq May 14 2012 21:52. Posts 9634 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 19:31 BLinD-RawR wrote: another sad thing about this season, ts really impossible to write a "Why Team X will win this season" thread because we have no idea how the players do in SC2. Rumors are Woongjin Stars are doing great in SC2, and they were quite strong in BW last season too. If they manage to make more successful use of Light and free, and sHy fully explodes + they all seem very pissed for missing the bar with equal points, so.... I think a why Stars will win thread would sound pretty reasonable at this point.  |
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| Stratos Czech Republic. May 14 2012 22:06. Posts 1594 | Profile Blog # |
On May 14 2012 20:55 sGs.Stregon wrote: this is like a scene out of Waking Life.. Where is a light switch, i need to know if this is real or a dream -.- im heartbroken. I guess as long as Turn still tears it up in Sc:Bw I can live with only Bo3 for Sc:Bw games, dunno what im going todo during those 3 games for that other game they are showing.. I mean really, its called starcraft too. Like Hey guys, Im StarCraft too i sware.. Just shows desperation for sales.,
I kinda like the way you keep using SC too :D |
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| PurePwnageofTerran May 14 2012 22:50. Posts 267 | Profile # |
| This format doesn't even make sense, BO3 BW and BO3 sc2 with ace match sc2? Also I dont understand what they mean when a team wins 2-0 in a bo3 then the last players are recorded as having played???? what does that even mean? This is way too confusing lol. |
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| fabiano Brazil. May 14 2012 23:36. Posts 3824 | Profile Blog # |
You don't choose a team to root for, you grow attached to one of them. It's like friends, you don't handpick a friend, friendship just happen. Each one of us has a story behind why we root for the team in our signature.
Yeah, any tournament related to SC2 is infinitely less prestigious than any BW tournament, winning a 'SC2 OSL' is not the same thing than winning a real OSL. Bisu never won (T_T) and never will win a real OSL, that's a fact. |
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| SarcasmMonster May 15 2012 00:30. Posts 2897 | Profile # |
On May 14 2012 21:09 Zergneedsfood wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 11:14 SarcasmMonster wrote: On May 14 2012 09:57 Zergneedsfood wrote: On May 14 2012 04:30 fabiano wrote: I'm not a veteran.
I will follow the SC2 SPL, at least for a while. I expect it to be very boring, but here I am giving yet another chance for SC2 to show me that it can be at least half exciting as BW.
I've given countless chances for SC2, my patience is running low though.
Edit: btw, if BW has to go, then I truly want SC2 to become good, I want to continue watching SKT1 roflstomping KT in every SPL. I want to keep seeing Fantasy TvTs, Bisu winning OSL.
You do know that Bisu winning OSLs in SC2 will be meaningless, right?
It would mean a lot to his fans <3
Uhhh, not really. It'd kind of be like one of those events where people will go "Yeah, he won an....OSL?" But does that really mean anything when the OSL is about SC2? Really? Have Bisu fans stooped so low as to say "ANY OSL WILL DO. JUST WIN ONE." If that's the case, I'll just stop talking because I'm just going to laugh. Oh Zow.....if only you read things like this. Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 11:28 BLinD-RawR wrote: On May 14 2012 09:57 Zergneedsfood wrote: On May 14 2012 04:30 fabiano wrote: I'm not a veteran.
I will follow the SC2 SPL, at least for a while. I expect it to be very boring, but here I am giving yet another chance for SC2 to show me that it can be at least half exciting as BW.
I've given countless chances for SC2, my patience is running low though.
Edit: btw, if BW has to go, then I truly want SC2 to become good, I want to continue watching SKT1 roflstomping KT in every SPL. I want to keep seeing Fantasy TvTs, Bisu winning OSL.
You do know that Bisu winning OSLs in SC2 will be meaningless, right?
im sure he'd do anything to get a hold of that trophy.
Yeah. Doesn't stop it from being meaningless though. 
I don't see why Bisu fans would be so cynical. Fans love seeing their idols win. Even Grubby fans from WC3 are happy when they see him win SC2 events. Grubby isn't exactly top tier, even for foreigners, but he has a huge fanbase in SC2 because of all the fans he carried over from his WC days.
If Bisu does win a SC2 OSL, I don't think the fan's thoughts are "ANY OSL WILL DO. JUST WIN ONE". They are happy for him for winning a prestigous tourney that has people the likes of Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Fantasy, etc. (Sorry, English isn't my first language T_T). |
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| KobraKay Portugal. May 15 2012 00:43. Posts 2072 | Profile # |
On May 14 2012 22:50 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: This format doesn't even make sense, BO3 BW and BO3 sc2 with ace match sc2? Also I dont understand what they mean when a team wins 2-0 in a bo3 then the last players are recorded as having played???? what does that even mean? This is way too confusing lol.
The recorded withouth playing thing is important because players need to play both games. Let me try to ilustrate with an example:
CJ - KT in BW Effort - Stats Hydra - Mind Leta - Hoejja
then in SCtoo (lol if this becomes a trend) Horang2 - Flash Snow - Action Rush - CH
In the second round, lets say CJ vs SKT, the 3 players that were listed for BW in week 1, can't be listed in BW vs SKT, they need to be listed for SC2 to be able to play BW again. So in week 2 if they play SC2, then in week 3 they can play BW again, if in week 2 they don't play (or play in the ace match only, I believe the ace match doesn't count as a SC2 match, it is special) in week 3 they still cant play BW. The samething happens in the opposite case. Players who play SC2 in week 1 need to play BW next week (or whatever week they play after if they're in a deep team) in order to be able to play SC2 again. Everyone will go BW-SC2-BW..... or SCtoo-BW-SCtoo....
So that means that even if you dont play but you are registered, it counts. For instance if CJ wins all sctoo games 2-0, and effort is listed everyother week as the third sc2 player, we will only see effort play bw because his sc2 games weren't needed due to CJ being awesome 
I hope this helps =/Last edit: 2012-05-15 00:47:57 |
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| PurePwnageofTerran May 15 2012 03:21. Posts 267 | Profile # |
On May 15 2012 00:43 KobraKay wrote: Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 22:50 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: This format doesn't even make sense, BO3 BW and BO3 sc2 with ace match sc2? Also I dont understand what they mean when a team wins 2-0 in a bo3 then the last players are recorded as having played???? what does that even mean? This is way too confusing lol.
The recorded withouth playing thing is important because players need to play both games. Let me try to ilustrate with an example: CJ - KT in BW Effort - Stats Hydra - Mind Leta - Hoejja then in SCtoo (lol if this becomes a trend) Horang2 - Flash Snow - Action Rush - CH In the second round, lets say CJ vs SKT, the 3 players that were listed for BW in week 1, can't be listed in BW vs SKT, they need to be listed for SC2 to be able to play BW again. So in week 2 if they play SC2, then in week 3 they can play BW again, if in week 2 they don't play (or play in the ace match only, I believe the ace match doesn't count as a SC2 match, it is special) in week 3 they still cant play BW. The samething happens in the opposite case. Players who play SC2 in week 1 need to play BW next week (or whatever week they play after if they're in a deep team) in order to be able to play SC2 again. Everyone will go BW-SC2-BW..... or SCtoo-BW-SCtoo.... So that means that even if you dont play but you are registered, it counts. For instance if CJ wins all sctoo games 2-0, and effort is listed everyother week as the third sc2 player, we will only see effort play bw because his sc2 games weren't needed due to CJ being awesome  I hope this helps =/
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