| slappy United States. May 11 2012 02:48. Posts 1255 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2012 23:05 GizmoPT wrote:
i thought BW guys werent such drama queens... BW is my favourite game ever but i dont mind this transition..
calls bw guys drama queens
calls himself a bw fan >< |
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| [Azn]Nada United States. May 11 2012 02:55. Posts 265 | Profile # |
GMarshal is probably gonna ban me for this, but w/e
The first game I see flash playing SC2 is probably gonna feel like watching lance armstrong riding a tricycle in the Tour de France. W/e less bw = more efficiency doing other things.
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| Demonhunter04 May 11 2012 03:03. Posts 1466 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 17:18 geno wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 16:50 Weird wrote:Separate but equal threads, it's the only way 
There is something a bit ominous about the wording chosen here, lol. Can't wait for the landmark case of Slayers`Brown vs Board of Shield Battery to overturn the idea of separate but equal threads.
lol wp. |
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| ProxyKnoxy United Kingdom. May 11 2012 03:13. Posts 2543 | Profile # |
I feel like everyone is gonna be disappointed by the level of play shown in the SC2 matches. People are saying they will dominate straight away but I don't see it happening, not even by three months.
I don't want Flash to play because I think it will diminish his aura of badassery |
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| raga4ka Bulgaria. May 11 2012 03:14. Posts 4999 | Profile # |
20th of may will be a starcraft marathon . First time seeing all of the Kespa teams in one day . I am hoping for some good games and the good thing with OGN is that i don't have to pay for vods on the games i've missed .
All hail STARCRAFT ! |
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| Emon_ May 11 2012 03:16. Posts 3751 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm torn. A day of the most exciting gaming I've yet to witness. 4 showdowns on a single day!? 11hrs of my favorite pass-time? CJ Entus vs KT rematch? It can only turn out one way (CJ 4-0 clean). On the other hand we will witness some really mediocre SC2. And having BW pros fumble around and try to win a ace in SC2 just feels . . . underwhelming. Also forcing players to alternate between BW and SC2 and not have dedicated players for each game. . . I'm very suspicious to this format. On a side-note, I saw ForGG play yesterday - he killed Sangho 3-0 with balls to the walls crazy early timing attacks. I hope to god he comes back to KT or that Oz gets revived. Last edit: 2012-05-11 03:20:37 |
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| ulfryc Germany. May 11 2012 03:44. Posts 104 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 19:03 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +12:14 KST (+09:00): And we're done, with the final set of Q&A questions. Thanks for tuning in! Thanks kimbilly, you can follow him @kimbillly (three L's).
One final note from kimbillly: There won't be global broadcasts ready for opening day, but they'll start soon after!
If there is enough demand, I can try and cast the games myself until OGN get their English broadcast up (as I have somewhat okay knowledge of both games).
On May 10 2012 21:44 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 21:22 hoop1 wrote:
we need sayle and tastosis to cast this, that would be awesome
I'm tempted.
Please, any of you guys cast it! I'm a SC2 guy and I'd really like to understand whats going on on the BW-Side. Having to watch a korean stream, I won't be able to understand anything of whats happening in the game or what rivalries the teams have. Sayle did cast last PL and afaik has some good knowledge of what's going on in BW scene, I'd really like to see him cast. But honestly dual cast would be the best, more fun / more knowledge, plus casting 8+ hours straight sure is goign to be exhausting.
So please guys: give us some english restream! |
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 windsupernova Mexico. May 11 2012 03:53. Posts 5272 | Profile # |
| Well, judging by this thread the LR threads will be a charmer. Separate or not ^_^ |
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| McFeser United States. May 11 2012 04:00. Posts 2451 | Profile # |
So I'm from the topside of the forums (SC2) but if LR threads are seperate can I hang here? You guys seem a little more mature |
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| nonsequitur May 11 2012 04:19. Posts 322 | Profile Blog # |
| Hmm, wondering if there will be english commentary? |
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| SpiZe Canada. May 11 2012 04:28. Posts 2291 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 02:05 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 01:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
That feeling when BW progamers are playing on Cloud Kingdom and Ohana :D
But I find it interesting that they aren't playing on GSL maps yet, so no Daybreak or Tal'Darim. Though to be fair, the ladder versions of those two maps aren't as good as their original tournament versions.
And there have been worse maps than Entombed Valley and Antiga Shipyard, though using the ladder versions will be annoying since most tournament versions tweak spawns and the ramps to make games less cheese-filled. I'm very worried that a lot of these early SC2 games will be rather cheesy due to low player skill and bad spawn positions on ladder maps.
They can't play on gsl maps due to previous animosity between them. OGN will have to make their own maps and they are very good mapmakers.
Honestly, OGN maps should be really interesting to watch from an SC2 perspective. They probably won't look a bit like current sc2 maps and this should be really fun to watch. I just hope they don't have an indepth look at the current sc2 map pool and just go with their instinct and it should be really fun to watch. |
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| Shadow_Dog Canada. May 11 2012 04:32. Posts 405 | Profile # |
| Would not be surprised that at least a good portion of people leave after the BW part is done. |
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| fishbowl United States. May 11 2012 04:38. Posts 807 | Profile # |
| Not like this... not like this... |
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| Sethronu United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:39. Posts 445 | Profile Blog # |
For all the people saying viewers would leave the studio after BW section is done... I really don't think so. I may be wrong on this, but most BW fans are as much fans of the teams and players as they are fans of the game - I would hope they are curious enough to see the overall results of the matches and at least give their favourite players in SC2 a chance.
And as for people saying, "it'd be great if viewers leave after BW games are done"... no, it wouldn't. It's pretty much already decided that professional BW isn't going to last past this year, the best we could count on as fans is to see the teams we know and love continue their existence even if it's in a different and less interesting game. If OGN decides not to broadcast SC2 in the longterm, it might well mean that all of the current Kespa teams will just disband, leaving the players to either retire or try to make it in SC2 on their own - surely neither of these is a better alternative to having Proleague switch to SC2. |
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| MCXD Australia. May 11 2012 05:09. Posts 2510 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 04:39 Sethronu wrote:
And as for people saying, "it'd be great if viewers leave after BW games are done"... no, it wouldn't. It's pretty much already decided that professional BW isn't going to last past this year, the best we could count on as fans is to see the teams we know and love continue their existence even if it's in a different and less interesting game. If OGN decides not to broadcast SC2 in the longterm, it might well mean that all of the current Kespa teams will just disband, leaving the players to either retire or try to make it in SC2 on their own - surely neither of these is a better alternative to having Proleague switch to SC2.
Pretty much this. The e-sports 'industry' in Korea has seen the huge success of SC2 in foreign regions, and the massive amounts of money (apparently?) being thrown around, and want in on it. They are not going to turn back even if a portion (and remember, it's a portion, you won't get everyone involved) of the BW fan community wants to turn their backs on it. It would be far better for the players, teams, industry and the game itself to follow the transition and support the players and teams. Then as time goes on, the storylines you loved from BW will develop once again, and after the expansions SC2 will be gradually fine-tuned by the players and developers until it's as balanced as it can be.
Rather than kicking SC2 down, help make it into the new BW, instead of simply boycotting it and being left with nothing at all. And hey, if the SC2 community is what sucks in your opinion, then an influx of BW fans who are supportive of the players and teams may actually set a positive example and help set things straight.
However if you were only interested in BW for the game itself, and have no real interest in e-sports on a whole or the where the players go, then fair enough.
EDIT: Oh but to clarify, I do think the duel BW/SC2 system is really stupid and will only result in terribly poor quality games and stress for the players, but OGN already said it's only for this one proleague, so we'll just have to put up with it.Last edit: 2012-05-11 05:21:04 |
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| amazingoopah United States. May 11 2012 05:28. Posts 1917 | Profile # |
| much like a family after divorce, I think both LR should be in separate forums and those interested in following the overall result will just have to click the link to the other LR thread and go from one forum to the other, like kids travelling from one house to the other.... |
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| IntoTheheart Canada. May 11 2012 05:31. Posts 2728 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Logros Netherlands. May 11 2012 05:45. Posts 9728 | Profile # |
| Yeah if some guys here can do english cast it'd be really appreciated . |
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| StarStruck May 11 2012 06:36. Posts 18314 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 16:43 ShadeR wrote:
Most likely two threads, but.... there will be spill over. Guranteed.
It's going to be so frigging annoying. Reminds me of the blue versus red stream for mlg events. -_-
On May 11 2012 02:05 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 01:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
That feeling when BW progamers are playing on Cloud Kingdom and Ohana :D
But I find it interesting that they aren't playing on GSL maps yet, so no Daybreak or Tal'Darim. Though to be fair, the ladder versions of those two maps aren't as good as their original tournament versions.
And there have been worse maps than Entombed Valley and Antiga Shipyard, though using the ladder versions will be annoying since most tournament versions tweak spawns and the ramps to make games less cheese-filled. I'm very worried that a lot of these early SC2 games will be rather cheesy due to low player skill and bad spawn positions on ladder maps.
They can't play on gsl maps due to previous animosity between them. OGN will have to make their own maps and they are very good mapmakers.
Yeah, it's not a big concern once they learn the tools.
We'll have to deal with the shitty map pool in the meantime.Last edit: 2012-05-11 06:43:43 |
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| BlackGosu Canada. May 11 2012 07:07. Posts 780 | Profile Blog # |
we should have a majority vote where the LR thread should be.
however i think it belongs in sc2, since ace match is sc2 |
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