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| TheRabidDeer United States. June 27 2012 07:45. Posts 2599 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 07:43 Warmonger wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
getting ready to attempt Hell-Diablo with my hardcore DH. wondering whether i should do it solo with a templar with lots of vitality, or try to find a group (monk + barb, and maybe another DH or sorc) to do it with. any thoughts? i only have one shot.
You don't get a hireling during the fight
You can have one using a bug |
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| dAPhREAk Nauru. June 27 2012 07:46. Posts 8761 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 07:43 Warmonger wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
getting ready to attempt Hell-Diablo with my hardcore DH. wondering whether i should do it solo with a templar with lots of vitality, or try to find a group (monk + barb, and maybe another DH or sorc) to do it with. any thoughts? i only have one shot.
You don't get a hireling during the fight
wait, what? is this true for all bosses? the only boss i have solo'd was siege breaker and i keep my templar in that fight--although he was always dead because it was inferno. |
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| Warmonger United States. June 27 2012 07:49. Posts 50 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 07:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:43 Warmonger wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
getting ready to attempt Hell-Diablo with my hardcore DH. wondering whether i should do it solo with a templar with lots of vitality, or try to find a group (monk + barb, and maybe another DH or sorc) to do it with. any thoughts? i only have one shot.
You don't get a hireling during the fight
wait, what? is this true for all bosses? the only boss i have solo'd was siege breaker and i keep my templar in that fight--although he was always dead because it was inferno.
Diablo "cages" any hireling you have on the way to the fight and you must do it alone, unless there is a bug as TheRabidDeer said. |
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| dAPhREAk Nauru. June 27 2012 07:51. Posts 8761 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 07:49 Warmonger wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:43 Warmonger wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
getting ready to attempt Hell-Diablo with my hardcore DH. wondering whether i should do it solo with a templar with lots of vitality, or try to find a group (monk + barb, and maybe another DH or sorc) to do it with. any thoughts? i only have one shot.
You don't get a hireling during the fight
wait, what? is this true for all bosses? the only boss i have solo'd was siege breaker and i keep my templar in that fight--although he was always dead because it was inferno.
Diablo "cages" any hireling you have on the way to the fight and you must do it alone, unless there is a bug as TheRabidDeer said.
thanks. i would have been pretty upset to find out i was going in solo, lol. |
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| TheRabidDeer United States. June 27 2012 07:52. Posts 2599 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 07:49 Warmonger wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:43 Warmonger wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
getting ready to attempt Hell-Diablo with my hardcore DH. wondering whether i should do it solo with a templar with lots of vitality, or try to find a group (monk + barb, and maybe another DH or sorc) to do it with. any thoughts? i only have one shot.
You don't get a hireling during the fight
wait, what? is this true for all bosses? the only boss i have solo'd was siege breaker and i keep my templar in that fight--although he was always dead because it was inferno.
Diablo "cages" any hireling you have on the way to the fight and you must do it alone, unless there is a bug as TheRabidDeer said.
Dunno if it still works, but if you run up the stairs past the point where the follower gets caged and have somebody join your game, then they leave it still pops up the window asking if you want your follower to rejoin you. |
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| Phael United States. June 27 2012 07:59. Posts 251 | Profile # |
| Regardless, it easier to solo it, especially as a ranged class, than with a friend. Phase 2 is the most difficult part of the encounter and when you add more clones to the fight, clones that can gang up and cc you, you make the fight harder. |
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| dAPhREAk Nauru. June 27 2012 08:01. Posts 8761 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 07:59 Phael wrote:
Regardless, it easier to solo it, especially as a ranged class, than with a friend. Phase 2 is the most difficult part of the encounter and when you add more clones to the fight, clones that can gang up and cc you, you make the fight harder.
any recommended builds for diablo? i have been playing a wizard up until now, and they have videos on it. havent read through the entire DH thread so not sure if there is something similar. thanks in advance. |
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| Tuskon United States. June 27 2012 14:27. Posts 83 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 07:08 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 06:16 Tuskon wrote:Hey guys, I'm wondering at what point would a swap from a 2h to 2x1h would be best and what stats I should look for to get better dps. Currently I have a 1100dps 1h xbow and a near perfect dead mans quiver. I've heard that if I got 2x1h with tons of crit dmg that my dps and regen would go up. so I guess my question is should I stick with what I have or swap? If swap what dps+crit dmg should I look for? Posted from my phone so sorry if it is an erratic post 
If your deadman's quiver has +20% atk spd, +10 discipline, +crit %, I don't think you should swap it out for another 1h xbow unless it's damn good.
Yea i totally mistyped. I have a 1164dps TWO hander (doesn't have any crit stuff just 192dex) and the Dead Man's Quiver (20% AS, +59str +79dex +108vit +1.05 Hatred regen +7% life and +3% crit to Mutilshot).
I don't know if your answer would still apply anymore thats why i'll ask again  |
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| darkcloud8282 Canada. June 27 2012 15:15. Posts 720 | Profile # |
I don't think you should use a 2h xbow if you don't have crit damage on it. It's a huge DPS boost. I don't suggest 1h xbow unless you have money to throw away  or want to have some fun screwing around |
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 TheMango United States. June 27 2012 15:19. Posts 1832 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 08:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:59 Phael wrote:
Regardless, it easier to solo it, especially as a ranged class, than with a friend. Phase 2 is the most difficult part of the encounter and when you add more clones to the fight, clones that can gang up and cc you, you make the fight harder.
any recommended builds for diablo? i have been playing a wizard up until now, and they have videos on it. havent read through the entire DH thread so not sure if there is something similar. thanks in advance.
I would practice on softcore to get the timings right for the clone spawns and when to SS, other than that, its pretty straight forward - dont let him get into melee range, SS right away or you will get a DoT on you that will most likely kill you. (If you get a DoT on you, you have to chain SS to prevent taking damage until you can get to a health fountain), and don't get grabbed by his cages (sometimes you can survive if you get grabbed by mashing SS and hope you get it off in time). You want as much +discipline as possible, and probably vault as well. At the same time, dont stay too far off screen or he teleports to you. I would get the following skills:
Mark of Death - Mortal Enemy
SS - Lingering
Vault - Tumble or Acrobatics
Prep - Backup Plan
Left click - Hungering - Devouring
Right click - Impale - Grievous Wounds
Passives: Tactical Advantage, Steady Aim, Perfectionist
Some people have had success with Rain of Vengeance - Flying strike to use on the clones, but I dont think it's necessary. Another option may be Shadow Power - Gloom if your DH is tanky enoughLast edit: 2012-06-27 15:23:01 |
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| Oldfool Australia. June 27 2012 15:55. Posts 287 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 15:19 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 08:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:59 Phael wrote:
Regardless, it easier to solo it, especially as a ranged class, than with a friend. Phase 2 is the most difficult part of the encounter and when you add more clones to the fight, clones that can gang up and cc you, you make the fight harder.
any recommended builds for diablo? i have been playing a wizard up until now, and they have videos on it. havent read through the entire DH thread so not sure if there is something similar. thanks in advance.
I would practice on softcore to get the timings right for the clone spawns and when to SS, other than that, its pretty straight forward - dont let him get into melee range, SS right away or you will get a DoT on you that will most likely kill you. (If you get a DoT on you, you have to chain SS to prevent taking damage until you can get to a health fountain), and don't get grabbed by his cages (sometimes you can survive if you get grabbed by mashing SS and hope you get it off in time). You want as much +discipline as possible, and probably vault as well. At the same time, dont stay too far off screen or he teleports to you. I would get the following skills: Mark of Death - Mortal Enemy SS - Lingering Vault - Tumble or Acrobatics Prep - Backup Plan Left click - Hungering - Devouring Right click - Impale - Grievous Wounds Passives: Tactical Advantage, Steady Aim, Perfectionist Some people have had success with Rain of Vengeance - Flying strike to use on the clones, but I dont think it's necessary. Another option may be Shadow Power - Gloom if your DH is tanky enough
This is not correct; after just recently doing Diablo inferno it's clear that Diablo only teleports if you are near an edge. So if you stay in middle of areas he won't teleport.Last edit: 2012-06-27 15:56:32 |
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| Kreb June 27 2012 15:56. Posts 2111 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 15:19 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 08:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:59 Phael wrote:
Regardless, it easier to solo it, especially as a ranged class, than with a friend. Phase 2 is the most difficult part of the encounter and when you add more clones to the fight, clones that can gang up and cc you, you make the fight harder.
any recommended builds for diablo? i have been playing a wizard up until now, and they have videos on it. havent read through the entire DH thread so not sure if there is something similar. thanks in advance.
I would practice on softcore to get the timings right for the clone spawns and when to SS, other than that, its pretty straight forward - dont let him get into melee range, SS right away or you will get a DoT on you that will most likely kill you. (If you get a DoT on you, you have to chain SS to prevent taking damage until you can get to a health fountain), and don't get grabbed by his cages (sometimes you can survive if you get grabbed by mashing SS and hope you get it off in time). You want as much +discipline as possible, and probably vault as well. At the same time, dont stay too far off screen or he teleports to you. I would get the following skills: Mark of Death - Mortal Enemy SS - Lingering Vault - Tumble or Acrobatics Prep - Backup Plan Left click - Hungering - Devouring Right click - Impale - Grievous Wounds Passives: Tactical Advantage, Steady Aim, Perfectionist Some people have had success with Rain of Vengeance - Flying strike to use on the clones, but I dont think it's necessary. Another option may be Shadow Power - Gloom if your DH is tanky enough
Get the stun on impale for p2 and you cover the stun part by just lowering your crits a little bit. Which should be a good deal for a HC char, I doubt crit is their primary stat.
Also, on HC your char kinda has to be tanky enough to take a hit or two, at which point Battle Scars should be superior to Backup Plan for Prep. Especially during p2 your healing options are quite limited. Unless you have some very high LoH numbers, I think either any Shadow Power or Battle Scars should definitely be in your build.Last edit: 2012-06-27 16:08:00 |
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| dAPhREAk Nauru. June 27 2012 16:31. Posts 8761 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 15:19 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 08:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 27 2012 07:59 Phael wrote:
Regardless, it easier to solo it, especially as a ranged class, than with a friend. Phase 2 is the most difficult part of the encounter and when you add more clones to the fight, clones that can gang up and cc you, you make the fight harder.
any recommended builds for diablo? i have been playing a wizard up until now, and they have videos on it. havent read through the entire DH thread so not sure if there is something similar. thanks in advance.
I would practice on softcore to get the timings right for the clone spawns and when to SS, other than that, its pretty straight forward - dont let him get into melee range, SS right away or you will get a DoT on you that will most likely kill you. (If you get a DoT on you, you have to chain SS to prevent taking damage until you can get to a health fountain), and don't get grabbed by his cages (sometimes you can survive if you get grabbed by mashing SS and hope you get it off in time). You want as much +discipline as possible, and probably vault as well. At the same time, dont stay too far off screen or he teleports to you. I would get the following skills: Mark of Death - Mortal Enemy SS - Lingering Vault - Tumble or Acrobatics Prep - Backup Plan Left click - Hungering - Devouring Right click - Impale - Grievous Wounds Passives: Tactical Advantage, Steady Aim, Perfectionist Some people have had success with Rain of Vengeance - Flying strike to use on the clones, but I dont think it's necessary. Another option may be Shadow Power - Gloom if your DH is tanky enough
thanks. i will try this out. hopefully i didnt waste a weekend leveling up this hardcore char to 60. =D
edit: this is only hell diablo, not inferno, if that makes a difference.Last edit: 2012-06-27 16:36:18 |
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| S_SienZ June 27 2012 17:10. Posts 1833 | Profile # |
| Hell diablo is a joke if you have a good lvl 60 weapon with you. I actually found Nightmare harder. |
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| TheMango United States. June 27 2012 17:15. Posts 1832 | Profile # |
Just setup stream today, but I recorded a solo azmo run + a duo azmo run with another DH from the TL forums. Sorry for the audio, you can just mute if it bothers you - still messing around with settings.
http://www.twitch.tv/themango_/b/322837535 |
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| S_SienZ June 27 2012 22:38. Posts 1833 | Profile # |
Made a burst of progression today and finished Act 2 from start to finish. Killing Belial on 450ms ping with 3 other people downloading in the house in particular was interesting heh.
Found an interesting combo: If you lay down Jagged Spikes and Mark Belial with Mortal Enemy, it gives you pretty much enough hatred to spam cluster bombs as often as you can afford to spam caltrops. |
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| ref4 June 28 2012 03:09. Posts 1052 | Profile # |
Did not read through the thread but here is a fantastically fun tank DH build! (yes we can tank!) sorry if it has been posted already but just thought I'll share this build. Credit to Oslo#1554!
Build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#WQYkeg!XVU!YbbccY
Original thread:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5911503749
Stats priority: resist all (aim for 300 Act I, 400 Act II, 600 Act III and 700 Act IV) = LoH (aim for 300 for Act I, 500 Act II, 700 for Act III and 1k for Act IV) > dexterity > armor > vit
With Caltrop runed for jagged spikes you will get LoH returned per enemies trapped every tick for the entire duration of the caltrop. Since a DH can stack up to 6 caltrops with custom engineering you basically do not die due to the sheer amount of life returned. The -15% dmg reduction and numbing traps also help greatly increase survival. Bola shot runed for bitter pill to generate hatred as well as disc and you dump hatred on multi shot runed with suppression fire to get even more disc so you can spam shadow power gloom virtually non-stop. Shuriken cloud also grants LoH life returns.
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| TheMango United States. June 28 2012 06:21. Posts 1832 | Profile # | |
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| HeadHunterzzzz June 28 2012 09:55. Posts 24 | Profile # |
| hey there! do u think is better look for a cheaper tank DH build (LoH, dext, vit, all res) or look for a very expansive build (crit chanche&dmg, dext, some attspeed, vit, all res)? here in europe shit cost so much!! |
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| dAPhREAk Nauru. June 28 2012 10:01. Posts 8761 | Profile Blog # |
On June 28 2012 09:55 HeadHunterzzzz wrote:
hey there! do u think is better look for a cheaper tank DH build (LoH, dext, vit, all res) or look for a very expansive build (crit chanche&dmg, dext, some attspeed, vit, all res)? here in europe shit cost so much!!
depends on what you want to do. you dont need the most expensive builds to beat the game (even inferno), but you will have difficulties and need to use gimmicks. if you want to rambo everything you see on the screen and impress all your lady friends, you will need the more expensive builds. |
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