| ShaLLoW[baY] Canada. May 16 2012 13:48. Posts 10557 | Profile Blog # |
| Right now at level 22 or so I'm using Entangle with the lightning rune and dual chakrams to pretty much mow down everything. Shadow Power + Fan of knives or multishot to instantly go back to full hp. Vault because it's awesome. Marked for death to help dps down the tankier blues/yellows. |
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| zeehar Korea (South). May 16 2012 15:25. Posts 2473 | Profile Blog # |
On May 16 2012 04:17 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 02:48 LaNague wrote:
so, what exactly is the point of multishot when i can have double chakrams hitting enemies for 4*100% weapon damage for 10 hatred.
Its hard to hit anything with chakrams
it is extremely easy to cover your screen with chakrams after you get the first rune for it (double chakrams). multishot isn't useful until you can get its first rune. |
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| justiceknight Singapore. May 16 2012 20:55. Posts 2475 | Profile Blog # |
On May 13 2012 02:58 akatama wrote:This is the build i plan on using in Hell/Inferno: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#bcXdVR!ceY!aabbbZWith discipline regen being 1/s, vault + tumble will alow me to be very mobile at really low disc cost. Both Elemental Arrow and Rapid Fire seem to be very efficient hatred spenders. I'm taking frost arrow rune for EA for the slow; for RF I have 2 choices: withering fire which has great synergy with constant vaulting every few seconds, but web shot also seems great. Entangling shot gives a good and spammable slow for the times I run out of hatred. I also take Smoke Screen since my disc spending will be low and it gives a great escape (when vault is not enough) and the rune gives me a way to convert excess disc in hatred for more damage. Prep + battle scars gives me a heal which i would otherwise lack, as well as allow multiple back to back smoke screens. Could be changed for something like companion or turret. Passives are easy to guess: archery is a solid damage increase, CtW will always work with slows on possibly every shot and steady aim should again have great uptime thanks to slows+ constant vaulting. Oh and with slows being applied so frequently the reduction in cc duration on inferno should not be that noticeable. The low level requirements mean i will have plenty of time to practice the build before i actually get to Hell or Inferno.
how do u have 3 skill for discipline?? my 3rd skill cant choose Preparation. |
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| Fearlezz Croatia. May 16 2012 21:29. Posts 172 | Profile # |
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| zeehar Korea (South). May 16 2012 22:10. Posts 2473 | Profile Blog # |
after using multishot with the half cost rune, i still much prefer the double chakrams as they're easier to spam. it also seems that chakrams hit enemies multiple times?
edit: also, because chakrams cost half the hatred of multishot (a quarter, if you don't use the half-cost multishot rune), i really don't need to use punishment to replenish hatred, which frees up an extra skill slot for whatever.Last edit: 2012-05-16 22:14:09 |
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| zeehar Korea (South). May 16 2012 22:17. Posts 2473 | Profile Blog # |
On May 16 2012 13:34 TheRealDudeMan wrote:
I'm in this weird phase at level 20. I'm using caltrops, hungering arrow and rapid fire alot. I have smokescreen to get away and impale to blow all my hatred if I'm getting chased. I can't wait to get elemental arrow and the overpenetration rune for impale.
at level 20 i basically used hungering, rapid fire (single targets), double chakrams as the big AOE spender, vault to get away, and caltrops. |
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| unkkz Sweden. May 16 2012 22:29. Posts 1270 | Profile Blog # |
On May 16 2012 22:10 zeehar wrote:
after using multishot with the half cost rune, i still much prefer the double chakrams as they're easier to spam. it also seems that chakrams hit enemies multiple times?
edit: also, because chakrams cost half the hatred of multishot (a quarter, if you don't use the half-cost multishot rune), i really don't need to use punishment to replenish hatred, which frees up an extra skill slot for whatever.
Yes they recently doubled the hatred cost for multishot iirc specificly to nerf the discipline for hatred build. I do however feel that multishots damage is too weak now to warrant the high cost. Chakrams are just stupidly cheap and can be spammed without thought.
Multishot is however faster and has a longer range but thats about it. I feel it should be atleast 200% weapon damage to warrant a 40 hatred cost. I do have to say i like multishot over chakram though and i actually use both atm in act 2 normal. Mostly to save time since i toss out a few chakrams then 1-2 multishots to finish them off quicker.
My one tip for anyone levelling however is once you get the first bola shot rune, use bola shot. It just easens up levelling tremendously compared to spamming hungering arrow. I actually had both up for a while and used hungering for kiting and bola for everything else. |
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| unkkz Sweden. May 16 2012 22:31. Posts 1270 | Profile Blog # |
On May 16 2012 22:17 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 13:34 TheRealDudeMan wrote:
I'm in this weird phase at level 20. I'm using caltrops, hungering arrow and rapid fire alot. I have smokescreen to get away and impale to blow all my hatred if I'm getting chased. I can't wait to get elemental arrow and the overpenetration rune for impale.
at level 20 i basically used hungering, rapid fire (single targets), double chakrams as the big AOE spender, vault to get away, and caltrops.
Caltrops with the 80% slow rune is just stupid good. Saved my ass against annoying elite packs so many times. Also which weapon type are people leaning towards? Im loving dual mini crossbows due to the fast speed makes it extremely easy to kite. But for instance i see some streamers run around with 1hand xbow and shield. Is shield worth to warrant the DPS loss? Thoughts?Last edit: 2012-05-16 22:34:16 |
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| Dahkar United States. May 16 2012 23:26. Posts 13 | Profile # |
I'm lvl 22~ on my hardcore demon hunter. (Work kills my play time!) But I've found running a shield to be essential in solo play. I go down too quick without a shield imo.
If your HC I'd def recommend a shield, otherwise just go guns blazing. |
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| nihoh Australia. May 17 2012 00:41. Posts 937 | Profile Blog # |
| Am i the only one who went thru all of Normal spamming Lifesteal active on DH?.. |
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| nihoh Australia. May 17 2012 00:47. Posts 937 | Profile Blog # | |
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| spacemonkey4eve United States. May 17 2012 01:04. Posts 173 | Profile Blog # |
Currently lvl 18 using bola for AOE and Rapidfire for single target. Grouping the mobs into Caltrops + 80% slow and then bola with first rune seems so efficient at clearing mobs, but I haven't tried elemental arrow to see how that fares for AOE. Multishot looks like it'll hog too much hatred for its damage.
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 TheBJ Bulgaria. May 17 2012 01:08. Posts 749 | Profile # |
Level 60
Solo - Vault with Tumble , Smoke Screen with duration , Shadow focus with 10% extra hp , preparation with 60% heal. Multi - Hungering
4 man games
Smoke screen , stampede , shadow focus , preparation. Other skills moved around depeding if stun/slow/dmg required. |
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| zeehar Korea (South). May 17 2012 02:29. Posts 2473 | Profile Blog # |
On May 16 2012 22:31 unkkz wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 22:17 zeehar wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:34 TheRealDudeMan wrote:
I'm in this weird phase at level 20. I'm using caltrops, hungering arrow and rapid fire alot. I have smokescreen to get away and impale to blow all my hatred if I'm getting chased. I can't wait to get elemental arrow and the overpenetration rune for impale.
at level 20 i basically used hungering, rapid fire (single targets), double chakrams as the big AOE spender, vault to get away, and caltrops.
Caltrops with the 80% slow rune is just stupid good. Saved my ass against annoying elite packs so many times. Also which weapon type are people leaning towards? Im loving dual mini crossbows due to the fast speed makes it extremely easy to kite. But for instance i see some streamers run around with 1hand xbow and shield. Is shield worth to warrant the DPS loss? Thoughts?
i lean towards having a quiver, 10%ias and +dex (along with others) boosts your DPS oftentimes more than dualwielding. |
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| thirtythree May 17 2012 02:40. Posts 37 | Profile # |
| The 80% slow caltrops is insanely good and buries any other rune choice for the skill. You'd think after 8 years of WoW someone at blizzard would realize how colossal a change it is to go from a 60% to an 80% snare (much bigger than a 40% to 60% for example). Oh well, can't really complain as like many others in this thread it has saved my ass countless times and trivialized a lot of elite mobs. |
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| Sandster United States. May 17 2012 02:49. Posts 1680 | Profile # |
3 abilities that almost everyone will use are vault, 80% caltrops, and twin chakrim. Hungering is a good choice for hatred gen, and if you need more single target damage go for impale.
I can see situational uses for elemental arrows (like narrow corridors or vs Wall) or boomerang chakrim, but twin chakrim is one of the godliest aoe abilities in the game.
You don't *need* these abilities, but they're powerful and versatile skills that can go into most builds. |
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| HolydaKing Germany. May 17 2012 03:06. Posts 8003 | Profile # |
lvl 30 right now. i like elemental arrow with the lighning thing a lot. it does lots of single target dmg too and it works vs masses just fine. trying rain of vengenance instead of multi shot right now. just learned it and it seems fun, some extra dmg for 5 sec while you just click once. also it seems to work to cast it and then go invisible (which is fun. jump in, cast rain and go invis ^_^).
for hatred gain which is hardly ever need (playinng solo) because elemental arrow is so cheap, i use bola shot with the 35% stun rune. i love that free stun vs bosses sometimes, even though the dmg isn't that great.Last edit: 2012-05-17 03:28:51 |
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| Cel.erity United States. May 17 2012 04:27. Posts 3599 | Profile Blog # |
Also lv30, I'm using a build based on multishot, I think it's much, much better than chakrams for general grinding because it clears instantly. Chakrams are undoubtedly more hatred efficient, but efficiency doesn't matter that much when you're killing everything with 3-4 multishots.
For reference, my build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#bcdYgQ!Ybe!ZaZZaa
All of my slots besides Rapid Fire/Multishot are based around survivability just in case, but in practice, it's just Multishotx4 then maybe Caltrops+Rapid Fire for something tough and collect. For my gear, I'm using a weapon with +30% crit damage and various crit enhancers to get my crit chance up to 15%. The crit+Shadow Power+Impale is real good on bosses too. |
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| Shifft Canada. May 17 2012 05:42. Posts 952 | Profile Blog # |
| The Lightning version of Elemental Arrow is really good, way better than I thought it would be. |
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| ShaLLoW[baY] Canada. May 17 2012 07:10. Posts 10557 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2012 00:41 nihoh wrote:
Am i the only one who went thru all of Normal spamming Lifesteal active on DH?..
Just finished Act 2 and have been spamming this spell since I got it, with fan or multishot or some pre-fired chakrams it's basically a get out of jail free card |
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