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| Ko1tz France. May 18 2012 03:31. Posts 492 | Profile Blog # |
I have been using this build and I managed to get through the whole game with it, Nightmare is actually going really smoothly aswell.
The general idea is to trap enemies on doorways/corners/hallways and kill them as fast as possible. It's also great for kiting and staying away from enemies for as long as you want.
Fan of Knives and Rain of Vengeance is mostly used for "emergency" situations in wich you might be getting overrun. What you want to do is to trap as many enemies in the center of the room as you can, you trigger Fan of Knives followed by Rain of Vengeance and finally, Vault to get into safety.
Haven't been able to try this build out in a group sadly, but so far I haven't died at all on my second playthrough.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aRYdhl!YeW!bZZbaLast edit: 2012-05-18 03:32:39 |
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| HolydaKing Germany. May 18 2012 04:17. Posts 8002 | Profile # |
seems like i'm the only one not liking hungering arrow, almost everyone has it ^^ much prefer bola shot with the stun, because i rarely ever need hatred because of the healing orbs and bola shot's stun is so good. and if i need hatred i would rather go for the grenades with 6 hatred in the beginning.
edit: although that might be because i play soloLast edit: 2012-05-18 04:20:34 |
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| LaNague Germany. May 18 2012 04:22. Posts 2978 | Profile # |
this is my first time reading about other people's builds, though, and I hadn't considered bola/stun rune for just stunlocking bosses. I've been using Impale for stuns while soloing but Bola may make more sense. Although I'm not sure what the stun reduction is on NM vs normal.]
i just did diablo nightmare with the bola stuns and he was stunned a LOT, he always tried to cast something and then got interrupted and stunned and tried again...made it much easier.
also, if you peope didnt try allready, use some of the elemental arrows. Frost for example is crazy good, i use it as my ae skill.
it doesnt match chakrams potential 400% dmg, but its 175% guaranteed in a zone behind the impact point, its instant and it slows.Last edit: 2012-05-18 04:45:49 |
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| Miiike United States. May 18 2012 04:39. Posts 103 | Profile # |
I just feel like chakram's dmg per hate is just so high that when i'm aoe clearing it's trivial to spam it forever. I admit that I haven't tried elemental arrow because I haven't had the need to try anything else for grinding up.
I liked multishot for group-play though, simply for the upfront burst of erasing mobs to keep my melee alive easier.
@LaN that's good to hear, I'm gonna go head back in to that after work and then hopefully get a hell group together. Today has been painfully slow as my friends catch up to the lead I had on them over the first two days :[ |
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| johnnywup United States. May 18 2012 05:01. Posts 2743 | Profile Blog # |
| im only a few hours in, level 11ish, demon hunter obv. I'm unsure how the skill stuff really works. It seems I'm leveling up every skill once and then theres runes or whatever? Can you not level up skills themselves? |
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| triplej United States. May 18 2012 05:12. Posts 27 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 05:01 johnnywup wrote:
im only a few hours in, level 11ish, demon hunter obv. I'm unsure how the skill stuff really works. It seems I'm leveling up every skill once and then theres runes or whatever? Can you not level up skills themselves?
No, you get every skill during the course of the game, and you customize your character by skill choice/runes.
This is what 2GD was using to solo Inferno Act 1:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#abZdQT!Tae!aaabaY |
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| Cel.erity United States. May 18 2012 05:22. Posts 3595 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 04:17 HolydaKing wrote:
seems like i'm the only one not liking hungering arrow, almost everyone has it ^^ much prefer bola shot with the stun, because i rarely ever need hatred because of the healing orbs and bola shot's stun is so good. and if i need hatred i would rather go for the grenades with 6 hatred in the beginning.
edit: although that might be because i play solo
Hungering Arrow seems really useless to me, all of the runes for it are meh, and the other options just seem to outperform it in any specific context. Entangling Shot has a nice slow and not really much lower dps. Bola is great AoE+stun, and grenades are the best option if you're getting close enough. I've switched among all of them, but never seen a reason to switch to Hungering Arrow.Last edit: 2012-05-18 05:24:21 |
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 JingleHell United States. May 18 2012 05:34. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 05:22 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 04:17 HolydaKing wrote:
seems like i'm the only one not liking hungering arrow, almost everyone has it ^^ much prefer bola shot with the stun, because i rarely ever need hatred because of the healing orbs and bola shot's stun is so good. and if i need hatred i would rather go for the grenades with 6 hatred in the beginning.
edit: although that might be because i play solo
Hungering Arrow seems really useless to me, all of the runes for it are meh, and the other options just seem to outperform it in any specific context. Entangling Shot has a nice slow and not really much lower dps. Bola is great AoE+stun, and grenades are the best option if you're getting close enough. I've switched among all of them, but never seen a reason to switch to Hungering Arrow.
Hungering arrow can go around corners, and with shatter shot, it's pretty awesome. Entangling hits like a girl, bola takes it's sweet time to kill, although it is kinda useful for some things. Hungering also does it's damage as physical, you don't see much that's immune to it. |
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| HolydaKing Germany. May 18 2012 05:38. Posts 8002 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 05:34 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 05:22 Cel.erity wrote:
On May 18 2012 04:17 HolydaKing wrote:
seems like i'm the only one not liking hungering arrow, almost everyone has it ^^ much prefer bola shot with the stun, because i rarely ever need hatred because of the healing orbs and bola shot's stun is so good. and if i need hatred i would rather go for the grenades with 6 hatred in the beginning.
edit: although that might be because i play solo
Hungering Arrow seems really useless to me, all of the runes for it are meh, and the other options just seem to outperform it in any specific context. Entangling Shot has a nice slow and not really much lower dps. Bola is great AoE+stun, and grenades are the best option if you're getting close enough. I've switched among all of them, but never seen a reason to switch to Hungering Arrow.
Hungering arrow can go around corners, and with shatter shot, it's pretty awesome. Entangling hits like a girl, bola takes it's sweet time to kill, although it is kinda useful for some things. Hungering also does it's damage as physical, you don't see much that's immune to it.
Of course, but do you really use any of those often? I dunno about later difficulty or multiple players but solo in nightmare i still can kill everything with rapid fire or multi shot and regen the hatred afterwards with the healing orbs... i basically only need a hatred generation skill for big bosses or elites, and there i don't see a reason for going Hungering. The dmg difference is just too little.
It going around corners might be useful however, dunno.Last edit: 2012-05-18 05:39:09 |
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| triplej United States. May 18 2012 05:51. Posts 27 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 05:34 JingleHell wrote:
Entangling Shot hits like a girl
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On May 18 2012 05:22 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 04:17 HolydaKing wrote:
seems like i'm the only one not liking hungering arrow, almost everyone has it ^^ much prefer bola shot with the stun, because i rarely ever need hatred because of the healing orbs and bola shot's stun is so good. and if i need hatred i would rather go for the grenades with 6 hatred in the beginning.
edit: although that might be because i play solo
Hungering Arrow seems really useless to me, all of the runes for it are meh, and the other options just seem to outperform it in any specific context. Entangling Shot has a nice slow and not really much lower dps. Bola is great AoE+stun, and grenades are the best option if you're getting close enough. I've switched among all of them, but never seen a reason to switch to Hungering Arrow.
You guys realize you can use multiple primaries, right?Last edit: 2012-05-18 05:58:52 |
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| JingleHell United States. May 18 2012 05:59. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
Yeah, I just choose not to use multiple primaries. I actually use all my buttons, and haven't found anything besides hungering shot to really fit my style.
I think on the primaries, a lot of it depends on how you're playing, too. |
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| Cel.erity United States. May 18 2012 06:18. Posts 3595 | Profile Blog # |
Yeah I don't need multiple primaries with my build, but there are a lot of ways you can go. I have enough hatred regen that I barely use my primary shot to begin with.
Didn't know that hungering arrow could go around corners. That's pretty cool, it seems like it could be useful on later difficulties since the only way I really take damage is from ranged attacks. |
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| JingleHell United States. May 18 2012 06:20. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 06:18 Cel.erity wrote:
Yeah I don't need multiple primaries with my build, but there are a lot of ways you can go. I have enough hatred regen that I barely use my primary shot to begin with.
Didn't know that hungering arrow could go around corners. That's pretty cool, it seems like it could be useful on later difficulties since the only way I really take damage is from ranged attacks.
Yeah, that "seeks out enemies" or whatever bit of text is a reference to it actually changing direction midflight to hit stuff sometimes. I use it around corners on really annoying ranged shit all the time. Especially if I have a ranged elite pack.
Especially with shatter shot to break and hit multiple enemies... oooh it's so useful.Last edit: 2012-05-18 06:21:23 |
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| Marradron Netherlands. May 18 2012 06:28. Posts 1548 | Profile Blog # |
Solood inferno act 1 with the following skills
Hungering arrow, spray of teeth
Impale overpenetration,
Prepration with heal rune,
smoke, with 1 extra second,
Vault with knockback
Rain of vengence, with stampede.
All you need to survive inferno.
Smoke whenever you get agro. Rain of vengence as last savior and insta 60 percent heal when it gets though.
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| Cel.erity United States. May 18 2012 06:58. Posts 3595 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 06:28 Marradron wrote:
Solood inferno act 1 with the following skills
Hungering arrow, spray of teeth
Impale overpenetration,
Prepration with heal rune,
smoke, with 1 extra second,
Vault with knockback
Rain of vengence, with stampede.
All you need to survive inferno.
Smoke whenever you get agro. Rain of vengence as last savior and insta 60 percent heal when it gets though.
Are you using the Templar follower? I'm with Scoundrel now but I figure the Templar will be better as the game gets more difficult. Haven't messed with Enchantress much. |
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| Marradron Netherlands. May 18 2012 07:06. Posts 1548 | Profile Blog # |
| Templar will save your life. He has a heal and can stun. Havent really tried the others much. Playing with elemental arrow lightning orb. Seems really good too. |
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| Doctorbeat Netherlands. May 18 2012 08:21. Posts 3173 | Profile # |
I'm thinking about eventually creating a crit focused DH. I already noticed that on NM I found a bit of gear with +1.5% crit chance, and gems can give you a lot of +% crit damage. The skills would mainly be focused around CC with Hungering strike + Shatter shot as main spamming skill. Passives would be Night Stalker, Archery, Sharpshooter.
Weapons would preferably be 2 1handers with as fast AS as possible + Dex/Vit/Crit% mods and preferably socket for emerald (max level emerald == 100% crit dmg increase on weapons).
Thoughts?Last edit: 2012-05-18 08:22:48 |
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| EchoZ China. May 18 2012 08:44. Posts 3157 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 08:21 Doctorbeat wrote:
I'm thinking about eventually creating a crit focused DH. I already noticed that on NM I found a bit of gear with +1.5% crit chance, and gems can give you a lot of +% crit damage. The skills would mainly be focused around CC with Hungering strike + Shatter shot as main spamming skill. Passives would be Night Stalker, Archery, Sharpshooter.
Weapons would preferably be 2 1handers with as fast AS as possible + Dex/Vit/Crit% mods and preferably socket for emerald (max level emerald == 100% crit dmg increase on weapons).
Thoughts?
Is 2 1 handers better than 1 hand 1 off-hand(quiver) ? |
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| Cel.erity United States. May 18 2012 08:53. Posts 3595 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 08:21 Doctorbeat wrote:
I'm thinking about eventually creating a crit focused DH. I already noticed that on NM I found a bit of gear with +1.5% crit chance, and gems can give you a lot of +% crit damage. The skills would mainly be focused around CC with Hungering strike + Shatter shot as main spamming skill. Passives would be Night Stalker, Archery, Sharpshooter.
Weapons would preferably be 2 1handers with as fast AS as possible + Dex/Vit/Crit% mods and preferably socket for emerald (max level emerald == 100% crit dmg increase on weapons).
Thoughts?
I have 16% crit and 112% crit damage right now and I can say it's pretty good. Comparing to other posters here and people I've seen playing, it seems like my dps is pretty close, but my gear is still changing quite frequently. Even if it is slightly lower dps, it's a hell of a lot of fun to get huge crits, so I don't care.
I think you definitely want a 2h though, I haven't found a dual wield configuration that can keep up with a good 2h. Dual wield is more about hatred generation than raw dps. |
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| FinestHour United States. May 18 2012 09:04. Posts 6704 | Profile # |
| Anyone have a good build for soloing act 4 in nightmare and onwards to hell and inferno? It's been giving me some problems so far, first time dying over and over so far in the game. |
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