I want both of them to win T_T. MVP is always a joy and has brought so much to SC2's name, but Squirtle interview and the possibility of being our first Royal Roader, it is tough, but Squirtle fighting I guess..
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LowEloPlayer United States. May 11 2012 21:55. Posts 182
I'm pretty sure the reason why Mvp (1) played a macro game on Game 3 and (2) said that he was confident in playing a macro game is that he would seem more unpredictable in the Finals. Although Squirtle will without a doubt change his play to try and play less greedy, what happens when Mvp appears to be playing a macro game. Is he actually playing one and you can be greedy? Or is he just going to cheese you? If he didn't do those 2 things as said before, Squirtle would be 100% certain that he would just be doing some kind of all-in build, and would be Keen to the King's game.
Mvp is truly the king of mind-games. If he won't beat Squirtle with better play, he'll beat him with better mindgames. After all, this is Squirtle's first finals. It's his first time in GSL Code S. This is Mvp's fifth time in the finals.
It is pretty silly that everyone was saying basically, "yeah MVP sucks now, he's not got a shot"...lol the guy is a nerd baller extradordinare! I kind of fed into the same thinking too, but after watching the intelligence and preparedness of his builds I am stand woefully corrected.
As for Squirtle changing his name....ever since pokemon I thought "squirtle" sounded like something you did after a rough night of too many tacos...
fenrysk United States. May 11 2012 22:40. Posts 262
i still haven't gotten over the fact that MVP was wearing a Jordans brand wrist wrap. it was so fitting and prophetic. i agree with the guys saying MVP to become first bonjwa of SC2. It was funny in the pre-show, Mr. Chae was saying last year MVP was beating all the Terrans to claim the throne, this year he's beating all the protoss to save the Terrans. truly, MVP does give me hope as a terran player in a time where TvP is regarded as hard
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crocodile United States. May 11 2012 22:42. Posts 615
I'm not surprised that Squirtle's playing in the finals, he was one of the players I thought would beforehand. I didn't think Mvp would last this long, though, having to face PartinG on the way. But he's pulled through and this will make for a interesting finals.
On May 11 2012 12:39 wasabay wrote: I didn't think Mvp went for any cheese at all for all 4 games
I agree that he didn't use cheese builds, but games 1 and 2 were certainly very risky, if not all-ins - pulling scvs and 1/1/1
In terms of who to root for, they both have compelling stories, but I think I'm more excited for Squirtle...I still remember the first time I played Pokemon Red, I picked squirtle, fun times...
Oh I see, 1/1/1 isn't cheese anymore, that makes total sense, just like 4gate right? And at least 4gate actually got nerfed.
I find it hard to believe people can still really root for MVP, like the guy hasn't had enough luck in this game.
Actually 1/1/1 has been weaken by the Immortal patch way back ago. So is is also weakend pretty bad that almost all toss now knows how to counter it
If a toss can scout it early enough and be greedy enough for the push which time can vary from 8 to 11 minutes then yes, many toss can sort of counter it, if they can both get to the tanks, keep their observers alive and kill the banshee while constantly warping in then tosses can often hold it.
All these prequisites though it make it still incredibly hard and statistically unlikely to hold, unlike the 4 gate which has been effectively declawed due to it's very short timing window.
Not to mention that whether or not you believe it's strong is completely irrelevant to the subject if it is or isn't a cheese, I'm inclined to say that if you stay on one base for so long or pull the amount of scv's he does it's automatically a cheese.
Laneir United States. May 11 2012 23:50. Posts 1101
It's funny because even though MVP could potentially win this season he doesn't really seem like a champion at all unlike the previous seasons when he won.
I mean you gotta do what you gotta do to win, but his run feels kind of cheap imo. You know how it feels, like when Rain reached the finals about a year ago only to get destroyed by MC because he got there by cheesing only and had no idea how to play a real TvP. Now MVP's cheeses are much more elaborate compared to Rain's of course, but they're cheeses nonetheless.