| BaconofWar United States. May 11 2012 21:12. Posts 355 | Profile Blog # |
| Damn it MVP!!! I keep saying you aren't that good, but you keep coming back. Stop that it's getting annoying. I still think Squirtle's gonna royal road it. |
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| FFW_Rude France. May 11 2012 21:16. Posts 637 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 20:50 CoR wrote:
STOP talking players into namechanges to some rnd names like "turtle king" ... i hope its a joke he has such a cool nickname ,...
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| Alpino Brazil. May 11 2012 21:40. Posts 2583 | Profile # |
| I want both of them to win T_T. MVP is always a joy and has brought so much to SC2's name, but Squirtle interview and the possibility of being our first Royal Roader, it is tough, but Squirtle fighting I guess.. |
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| LowEloPlayer United States. May 11 2012 21:55. Posts 180 | Profile Blog # |
I'm pretty sure the reason why Mvp (1) played a macro game on Game 3 and (2) said that he was confident in playing a macro game is that he would seem more unpredictable in the Finals. Although Squirtle will without a doubt change his play to try and play less greedy, what happens when Mvp appears to be playing a macro game. Is he actually playing one and you can be greedy? Or is he just going to cheese you? If he didn't do those 2 things as said before, Squirtle would be 100% certain that he would just be doing some kind of all-in build, and would be Keen to the King's game.
Mvp is truly the king of mind-games. If he won't beat Squirtle with better play, he'll beat him with better mindgames. After all, this is Squirtle's first finals. It's his first time in GSL Code S. This is Mvp's fifth time in the finals. |
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| Xiron Germany. May 11 2012 22:06. Posts 1152 | Profile # |
| Am I the only one who realised that parting's hand is HUGE in the frontpage image? Compare it to Mvp's.. ITS INSANE! |
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| hillman United States. May 11 2012 22:15. Posts 136 | Profile # |
It is pretty silly that everyone was saying basically, "yeah MVP sucks now, he's not got a shot"...lol the guy is a nerd baller extradordinare! I kind of fed into the same thinking too, but after watching the intelligence and preparedness of his builds I am stand woefully corrected.
As for Squirtle changing his name....ever since pokemon I thought "squirtle" sounded like something you did after a rough night of too many tacos... |
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| fenrysk United States. May 11 2012 22:40. Posts 260 | Profile # |
| i still haven't gotten over the fact that MVP was wearing a Jordans brand wrist wrap. it was so fitting and prophetic. i agree with the guys saying MVP to become first bonjwa of SC2. It was funny in the pre-show, Mr. Chae was saying last year MVP was beating all the Terrans to claim the throne, this year he's beating all the protoss to save the Terrans. truly, MVP does give me hope as a terran player in a time where TvP is regarded as hard |
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 crocodile United States. May 11 2012 22:42. Posts 615 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 12:51 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 12:49 Gorilla23 wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:39 wasabay wrote:
I didn't think Mvp went for any cheese at all for all 4 games
He didn't.
Game 2? 1/1/1 all in? The other games weren't cheese but how is 1/1/1'ing without an expansion not cheese?
Because its not an abuse of game mechanics, you're not proxying buildings, its just an aggressive 1 base allin timing push. |
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| DayWalk3r Canada. May 11 2012 22:50. Posts 189 | Profile # |
| Time for protoss champ :-D |
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| Paragleiber Germany. May 11 2012 22:57. Posts 245 | Profile # |
"This is a rare occurrence, but you actually had the support of the fans this time around, from people who wanted you to stop a PvP final. How do you feel about being in that situation?"
I really wonder how they came up with that one, since I don't agree with it at all. I would think that most people probably wanted Parting to advance here. |
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| Scootaloo May 11 2012 23:08. Posts 634 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 12:50 jubil wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 12:39 wasabay wrote:
I didn't think Mvp went for any cheese at all for all 4 games
I agree that he didn't use cheese builds, but games 1 and 2 were certainly very risky, if not all-ins - pulling scvs and 1/1/1 In terms of who to root for, they both have compelling stories, but I think I'm more excited for Squirtle...I still remember the first time I played Pokemon Red, I picked squirtle, fun times...
Oh I see, 1/1/1 isn't cheese anymore, that makes total sense, just like 4gate right?
And at least 4gate actually got nerfed.
I find it hard to believe people can still really root for MVP, like the guy hasn't had enough luck in this game.
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| Scootaloo May 11 2012 23:10. Posts 634 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 22:42 crocodile wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 12:51 MasterKang wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:49 Gorilla23 wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:39 wasabay wrote:
I didn't think Mvp went for any cheese at all for all 4 games
He didn't.
Game 2? 1/1/1 all in? The other games weren't cheese but how is 1/1/1'ing without an expansion not cheese?
Because its not an abuse of game mechanics, you're not proxying buildings, its just an aggressive 1 base allin timing push.
Yes, abusing terrans completely broken tech tree is totally not abusing game mechanics right? That's just reserved for things like warpgate or making a lot of roaches.
By your definition the only cheese terran can do is proxy rax. |
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| urashimakt United States. May 11 2012 23:11. Posts 1518 | Profile # |
| I was kinda rooting for PartinG to advance. With MVP's injury, his sets have gotten pretty predictable due to all the SCV timing attacks. Yet...they keep working against his opponents. |
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| Jongl0 Sweden. May 11 2012 23:23. Posts 629 | Profile # |
I'm not surprised that Squirtle's playing in the finals, he was one of the players I thought would beforehand. I didn't think Mvp would last this long, though, having to face PartinG on the way. But he's pulled through and this will make for a interesting finals.
I still think that Squirtle has the upper hand. |
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| InoyouS2 May 11 2012 23:26. Posts 1005 | Profile # |
| NesTea went on a 20-0 win streak in GSL, Squirtle's win streak is 14 at the moment, so the best he can achieve in this GSL is going 18-1; still not the best by any means. |
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| Ace1123 Philippines. May 11 2012 23:27. Posts 1117 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 23:08 Scootaloo wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 12:50 jubil wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:39 wasabay wrote:
I didn't think Mvp went for any cheese at all for all 4 games
I agree that he didn't use cheese builds, but games 1 and 2 were certainly very risky, if not all-ins - pulling scvs and 1/1/1 In terms of who to root for, they both have compelling stories, but I think I'm more excited for Squirtle...I still remember the first time I played Pokemon Red, I picked squirtle, fun times...
Oh I see, 1/1/1 isn't cheese anymore, that makes total sense, just like 4gate right? And at least 4gate actually got nerfed. I find it hard to believe people can still really root for MVP, like the guy hasn't had enough luck in this game.
Actually 1/1/1 has been weaken by the Immortal patch way back ago. So is is also weakend pretty bad that almost all toss now knows how to counter it |
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| Scootaloo May 11 2012 23:44. Posts 634 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 23:27 Ace1123 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 23:08 Scootaloo wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:50 jubil wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:39 wasabay wrote:
I didn't think Mvp went for any cheese at all for all 4 games
I agree that he didn't use cheese builds, but games 1 and 2 were certainly very risky, if not all-ins - pulling scvs and 1/1/1 In terms of who to root for, they both have compelling stories, but I think I'm more excited for Squirtle...I still remember the first time I played Pokemon Red, I picked squirtle, fun times...
Oh I see, 1/1/1 isn't cheese anymore, that makes total sense, just like 4gate right? And at least 4gate actually got nerfed. I find it hard to believe people can still really root for MVP, like the guy hasn't had enough luck in this game.
Actually 1/1/1 has been weaken by the Immortal patch way back ago. So is is also weakend pretty bad that almost all toss now knows how to counter it
If a toss can scout it early enough and be greedy enough for the push which time can vary from 8 to 11 minutes then yes, many toss can sort of counter it, if they can both get to the tanks, keep their observers alive and kill the banshee while constantly warping in then tosses can often hold it.
All these prequisites though it make it still incredibly hard and statistically unlikely to hold, unlike the 4 gate which has been effectively declawed due to it's very short timing window.
Not to mention that whether or not you believe it's strong is completely irrelevant to the subject if it is or isn't a cheese, I'm inclined to say that if you stay on one base for so long or pull the amount of scv's he does it's automatically a cheese. |
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| Laneir United States. May 11 2012 23:50. Posts 1098 | Profile # |
| MVP wins yet again to make 4th finals good stuff cant wait |
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| Synwave United States. May 11 2012 23:58. Posts 2738 | Profile # |
Luuuuuuuurved the interviews!
Thank you for the recap. Looking forward to the finals a bit more now that it wont be PvP. |
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| Demorase May 12 2012 00:04. Posts 136 | Profile # |
It's funny because even though MVP could potentially win this season he doesn't really seem like a champion at all unlike the previous seasons when he won.
I mean you gotta do what you gotta do to win, but his run feels kind of cheap imo. You know how it feels, like when Rain reached the finals about a year ago only to get destroyed by MC because he got there by cheesing only and had no idea how to play a real TvP. Now MVP's cheeses are much more elaborate compared to Rain's of course, but they're cheeses nonetheless.Last edit: 2012-05-12 00:05:13 |
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