| floor exercise Canada. May 11 2012 21:03. Posts 5503 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 20:53 turdburgler wrote:
so no one cares anymore about the horror stories of how kespa have acted over the years and just because of the money they may bring in to the scene we are gonna shower them with praise? ;/
Over night they all stopped caring about how dangerous Kespa exerting control over players is even though it seems MLG is jumping at the chance to join them in that. It's all excuses about how good it is for ESPORTS now that the only way to see Flash in a foreign tournament is to buy a mlg ppv |
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| ppshchik United States. May 11 2012 21:04. Posts 735 | Profile # |
| Milkis must be kicking himself right now. That guy seems to get a hard on on anything that's Kespa / Korean related. |
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| Eee Sweden. May 11 2012 21:06. Posts 2709 | Profile # |
Sundance DiGiovanni
@MLGSundance
No comment on the exclusivity other than to say that it is exclusive. jumbo shrimp. pretty ugly. knife to a gun fight and all that stuff.
Makes me pretty sad actually, this is not the way to go. |
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| Alryk United States. May 11 2012 21:07. Posts 2226 | Profile Blog # |
They should totally seed forgg to pit a low code s / high code a player (who was a good bw pro!) And see how he does :D
Edit: is it confirmed ppv? Last edit: 2012-05-11 21:10:09 |
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| phillyd United Kingdom. May 11 2012 21:08. Posts 49 | Profile # |
If this does mean that MLG/Kespa players can not play in any other brand of tournament, this is an awful day for Starcraft 2 and eSports, and may end up actually killing it.
The reason the Starcraft community is so strong right now is because MLG, GSL, NASL, IPL, ESL, Dreamhack and all the others are able to invite any player to their tournaments. |
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| IPS.Mardow. Germany. May 11 2012 21:08. Posts 669 | Profile # |
Wow, sick!! Can't wait to see BW progamers playing sc2 vs top sc2 foreigners  |
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| huehuehuehue Estonia. May 11 2012 21:08. Posts 451 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 21:06 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +Sundance DiGiovanni
@MLGSundance
No comment on the exclusivity other than to say that it is exclusive. jumbo shrimp. pretty ugly. knife to a gun fight and all that stuff.
Makes me pretty sad actually, this is not the way to go.
Yeah, I agree  . MLG wants a monopoly.. |
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 Myles United States. May 11 2012 21:10. Posts 4072 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 21:08 huehuehuehue wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 21:06 Eee wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni
@MLGSundance
No comment on the exclusivity other than to say that it is exclusive. jumbo shrimp. pretty ugly. knife to a gun fight and all that stuff.
Makes me pretty sad actually, this is not the way to go.
Yeah, I agree . MLG wants a monopoly..
That quote doesn't say anything really about what exclusive really means in this context. The whole point on adding in jumbo shrimp, pretty ugly, ect was to indicate the misnomer. |
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| NHY May 11 2012 21:10. Posts 898 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 20:55 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 20:43 nicotn wrote:
On May 11 2012 17:28 Zealos wrote:
Honestly, I don't think MLG would want to "Force" the bw pro's from only playing in their tournaments. Considering the way the community can react to what they perceive at wrong, it seems like it would be a poor business choice on their part.
It's already happening.
no it's not. Waxangel translated the korean article and there is nothing mentioning it.
So? Kespa isn't known for transparency or truthfulness. You think Sundance just made it up when he tweeted exclusivity? |
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| BaconofWar United States. May 11 2012 21:14. Posts 355 | Profile Blog # |
| Finally! Foreigners on Korean TV!!!!!!!! |
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| Dodgin Canada. May 11 2012 21:16. Posts 24920 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 21:14 BaconofWar wrote:
Finally! Foreigners on Korean TV!!!!!!!!
Someone is going to be disappointed haha. |
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| Chloroplaste France. May 11 2012 21:16. Posts 249 | Profile # |
Exclusive... Payperview...
I don't care about this tournament. |
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| Aetherial Australia. May 11 2012 21:17. Posts 907 | Profile # |
From reddit...
B1aec
Can KeSPA players play in foreign tourneys other than your own?
Sundanced
I have plans to make something work with our friends at Dreamhack. Beyond that - I don't really know at this point. |
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| taldarimAltar May 11 2012 21:19. Posts 833 | Profile Blog # |
| I actually predict there to be three groups and three types of tournaments. The foreigners and their tourneys, and the old time GSL sc2 player and the newer sc2 broodwars. There will be a few players who will overlap and play outside their "circles" but many will generally keep to themselves. |
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 Aeroplaneoverthesea United Kingdom. May 11 2012 21:21. Posts 1669 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 20:43 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 18:38 Josh_rakoons wrote:
I highly doubt it's as cut-throat as you think it is, Hrrrrm.
See I initially thought it wasn't as cutthroat but, then Sundance tweeted this. There is no point in running a business like MLG and pouring in as much money as they are if it isn't cutthroat. I just hope that people stopping believing them on the whole MLG=eSports and the crying of poverty. MLG=MLG and nothing else. Everyone that believed that garbage was played like a fiddle since I highly doubt Kespa is signing an exclusive deal and not getting some type of monetary gain. MLG needs Kespa more than Kespa needs MLG since the BW Pro's could show up to any event, even a local $100 LAN and it would get monster views. Kespa doesn't need MLG for anything "exclusively" yet they are doing it. This is all in MLG's best interest because they are hoping to deprive other tournaments of talent and in something like SC2 talent is what makes/breaks a tournament. Which was MLG's problem right from the beginning when they didn't have any Koreans attending their events. I'm just glad D3 is literally around the corner and I won't be as invested in following the SC2 scene since I'll be watching from an arm's length come May 15th. Be careful what you wish for.
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 20:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:28 NightOfTheDead wrote:
I dont see how any sort of restriction to natural player movement (which means their coaches/teams have the say ONLY) is not bad.
Because the deal is presumably that MLG are forking out for travel costs, as well as they're avoiding schedule conflicts. The reason Dreamhack and IEM don't have many (if any) top players at their events is because they don't pay full stipends to players. Most players won't travel cross continent for low prize pools like Dreamhack and IEM offer at most of their events. This isn't a situation where by KESPA player were going to attend everything and now KESPA says they can only attend MLG's, it's a situation where they were attending nothing outside of Korea and now thanks to MLG opening their wallets they will attend some foreign events.
I'm so glad you know what BW Pro players/teams were planning or not planning to do before they ever announced a single thing. This is a move by MLG to just get a strangle hold on Kespa talent. That is all this is, nothing more and nothing less. Are you aware that now even if Kespa players wanted to attend some events in the months when they are out of the playoff running in Proleague they just can't? That means they are basically at MLG's mercy even if other events are being held and the BW Pro's are doing nothing. Stop being short sighted.
I won't waste my time talking to the tin foil hat brigade. |
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| HeeroFX United States. May 11 2012 21:21. Posts 1914 | Profile Blog # |
| do mlg players get to compete in kespa events? |
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| Aeroplaneoverthesea United Kingdom. May 11 2012 21:22. Posts 1669 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 21:21 HeeroFX wrote:
do mlg players get to compete in kespa events?
MLG doesn't have any players. |
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| torm3ntin Brazil. May 11 2012 21:25. Posts 2368 | Profile # |
From Sundance announcement we see how much he is truly interested in Esports (aka $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).
This is a BS move from him to get exclusive rights to get this players BUT i don't think it will affect us that much in the end since the players from Kespa won't be ready for engagements with older players. |
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| MVega May 11 2012 21:25. Posts 711 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 21:10 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 21:08 huehuehuehue wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:06 Eee wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni
@MLGSundance
No comment on the exclusivity other than to say that it is exclusive. jumbo shrimp. pretty ugly. knife to a gun fight and all that stuff.
Makes me pretty sad actually, this is not the way to go.
Yeah, I agree . MLG wants a monopoly..
That quote doesn't say anything really about what exclusive really means in this context. The whole point on adding in jumbo shrimp, pretty ugly, ect was to indicate the misnomer.
Glad I wasn't the only one who caught that.
Probably still an amazing day for eSports, we just have to wait for more details. |
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| Ammanas Slovakia. May 11 2012 21:27. Posts 720 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 21:16 Chloroplaste wrote:
Exclusive... Payperview...
I don't care about this tournament.
MLG championships are not PPV.
btw Sundance just tweeted:
Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance
Things not mentioned last night. East / West training program with team house exchange. Western players earning spots to compete in Korea
Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance
More things not mentioned last night Global content distribution partnership. Looking at other games. I still like boats. Happy Friday
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