 shostakovich Brazil. May 12 2012 05:48. Posts 719 | Profile Blog # |
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/05/11/valve-blizzard-reach-dota-trademark-agreement.aspx
Blizzard said today it has reached an agreement with Valve regarding the trademark issue with DOTA.
According to the agreement, Valve will continue to use DOTA commercially, including DOTA 2, while Blizzard will preserve noncommercial use of DOTA for its community with regard to player-created maps for Warcraft III and StarCraft II.
"Both Blizzard and Valve recognize that, at the end of the day, players just want to be able to play the games they're looking forward to, so we're happy to come to an agreement that helps both of us stay focused on that," said Rob Pardo, executive vice president of game design at Blizzard Entertainment.
"As part of this agreement, we're going to be changing the name of Blizzard DOTA to Blizzard All-Stars, which ultimately better reflects the design of our game. We look forward to going into more detail on that at a later date."
Valve president Gabe Newell added: "We're pleased that we could come to an agreement with Blizzard without drawing things out in a way that would benefit no one. We both want to focus on the things our fans care about, creating and shipping great games for our communities."
According to the press release, the companies do not plan to discuss the terms of the agreement beyond today's announcement.
After seeing this and their promises for SC2 features, I'm feeling like respecting Blizzard a little more. I wasn't expecting this. |
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| Iceman331 United States. May 12 2012 05:53. Posts 107 | Profile # |
| Most likely reason is that they couldn't win the lawsuit, so they took what they could and went with it. |
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| windzor Denmark. May 12 2012 05:54. Posts 697 | Profile # |
Well you can say that Blizzard got kinda what they wanted, except they didn't get to keep Blizzard Dota. But they did went into the fight with the words: "We do it for the fans to use the dota name!" which they have done. This is pretty much what you would expect to come out from it.
Only thing surprising is that blizzard didn't get to keep the name Blizzard Dota. But maybe they already changed the name internal before making the agreement with Valve. We'll never now. |
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| windzor Denmark. May 12 2012 05:56. Posts 697 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 05:53 Iceman331 wrote:
Most likely reason is that they couldn't win the lawsuit, so they took what they could and went with it.
Stuff like this never comes to court. It costs too much money in regard to what you would win. If Blizzard took this to court they would be stupid IMO, even if they had a case. |
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| qyk05328 Germany. May 12 2012 06:00. Posts 335 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 05:53 Iceman331 wrote:
Most likely reason is that they couldn't win the lawsuit, so they took what they could and went with it.
We're talking about Bobby Kotick here. The only reason for them to drop the lawsuit is that there was absolutely no chance of winning and the other side had enough money to withstand the whole trial.
Let's hope this means more pandas. |
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 motbob  United States. May 12 2012 06:03. Posts 11467 | Profile Blog # |
| Typical Team Liquid. Blizzard does something that's unquestionably good for consumers and the first few replies in the thread are all about casting what they did in as negative a light as possible. |
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| Copymizer Denmark. May 12 2012 06:05. Posts 1395 | Profile # |
| This is very good god god news, so the case has been settled, no more questions no more uncertainess and stupid blabber talk... |
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| Zozo Brazil. May 12 2012 06:06. Posts 1317 | Profile Blog # |
| This was the best outcome Valve could have hoped for, Blizzard had this case from the start. Both companies got what they wanted, blizzard protected it's mapmaking community, and valve kept some control over the name. |
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| qyk05328 Germany. May 12 2012 06:13. Posts 335 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 06:03 motbob wrote:
Typical Team Liquid. Blizzard does something that's unquestionably good for consumers and the first few replies in the thread are all about casting what they did in as negative a light as possible.
If I started beating my wife should I get applauded when I'm finished because it's good for the her that I finally stopped beating her, or should I be arrested? |
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| Spicy_Curry United States. May 12 2012 06:14. Posts 2276 | Profile Blog # |
| It doesn't matter why it happened, what matters is that it happened. |
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| windzor Denmark. May 12 2012 06:18. Posts 697 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 06:03 motbob wrote:
Typical Team Liquid. Blizzard does something that's unquestionably good for consumers and the first few replies in the thread are all about casting what they did in as negative a light as possible.
I think this is great. This is the best thing to happen and it's great Blizzard wanted to fight for us. But I just think the results would've been known beforehand because Valve isn't known to just take stuff like this, and none of them wanted the case to go to court. But it's great news. It's the best thing to happen for the Dota brand. |
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| motbob United States. May 12 2012 06:20. Posts 11467 | Profile Blog # |
On May 12 2012 06:13 qyk05328 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 06:03 motbob wrote:
Typical Team Liquid. Blizzard does something that's unquestionably good for consumers and the first few replies in the thread are all about casting what they did in as negative a light as possible.
If I started beating my wife should I get applauded when I'm finished because it's good for the her that I finally stopped beating her, or should I be arrested?
I don't think you should be arrested for beating your wife, but I do think that you should be arrested for making awful analogies.
Blizzard's contention of this copyright has had zero negative effects on consumers, and now they've reached an agreement that will prevent any negative effects from happening in the future. The "copyright dispute" and "wife-beating" situations are nothing alike because Blizzard never did anything to hurt anyone.Last edit: 2012-05-12 06:21:12 |
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 MrHoon  May 12 2012 06:24. Posts 8572 | Profile Blog # |
| Honestly, Blizzard All-Stars sounds a million times better than 'Blizzard Dota' |
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| SKC Brazil. May 12 2012 06:27. Posts 3287 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 06:24 MrHoon wrote:
Honestly, Blizzard All-Stars sounds a million times better than 'Blizzard Dota'
It's a better reflection of their product and has a better acronym. Let's see how BALLS turns out now.
+ Show Spoiler +Joke shamelessly stolen from Bashiok's twitter. |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. May 12 2012 06:28. Posts 12412 | Profile # |
Best solution possible for both companies and the fans imo.  |
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| NB Canada. May 12 2012 06:28. Posts 6997 | Profile Blog # |
On May 12 2012 06:24 MrHoon wrote:
Honestly, Blizzard All-Stars sounds a million times better than 'Blizzard Dota'
this is true but sadly based on what they have shown their game is million times worst than dota..... |
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| EnvyUK England. May 12 2012 06:29. Posts 149 | Profile # |
Well I predicted Blizzard losing/backing down from the very beginning the dispute came up, they simply had no case what-so-ever.
I'm glad this is sorted so people can stop believing otherwise. |
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| Andr3 Slovenia. May 12 2012 06:39. Posts 1438 | Profile Blog # |
If Blizzard wanted they would easily get their DOTA trademark, they have both more money and grounds to use the DOTA trademark.
Blizzard being a bit awesome, Valve too. I'm glad there were no complications with this! |
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| qyk05328 Germany. May 12 2012 06:42. Posts 335 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 06:20 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 06:13 qyk05328 wrote:
On May 12 2012 06:03 motbob wrote:
Typical Team Liquid. Blizzard does something that's unquestionably good for consumers and the first few replies in the thread are all about casting what they did in as negative a light as possible.
If I started beating my wife should I get applauded when I'm finished because it's good for the her that I finally stopped beating her, or should I be arrested?
I don't think you should be arrested for beating your wife, but I do think that you should be arrested for making awful analogies. Blizzard's contention of this copyright has had zero negative effects on consumers, and now they've reached an agreement that will prevent any negative effects from happening in the future. The "copyright dispute" and "wife-beating" situations are nothing alike because Blizzard never did anything to hurt anyone.
How can you claim that it would have had "zero negative effects" when if they won and their counter claim was granted the very people that maintained the game over the years basically for free, with no support from Blizzard, would have been denied the fruits of their labor? Blizzard would have just stolen their brand and slapped it on some polished turd, catching unaware consumers thinking this is the "real" Dota.
And then the lawsuit in itself was an abomination. From what I've read of it, it basically had no grounds: just piled random facts and no solid arguments but good enough to last in court for some time. If it wasn't Valve but some small squishy company the lawsuit in itself would have been a win for Blizzard as the prolonged legal battle would have been too cost prohibitive for the small developer.
The only reason Blizzard backed down is that the other side had resources to fight back. This doesn't make their initial decision to file this kind of lawsuit any less abhorrent. |
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| Zozo Brazil. May 12 2012 06:44. Posts 1317 | Profile Blog # |
On May 12 2012 06:29 EnvyUK wrote:
Well I predicted Blizzard losing/backing down from the very beginning the dispute came up, they simply had no case what-so-ever.
I'm glad this is sorted so people can stop believing otherwise.
This was exactly the other way around, they settled an agreement that favored Valve. Blizzard got big part of what they wanted, which was allow it's community to use the name. If this was dragged all the way to the end, Valve would lose.
On May 12 2012 06:42 qyk05328 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 06:20 motbob wrote:
On May 12 2012 06:13 qyk05328 wrote:
On May 12 2012 06:03 motbob wrote:
Typical Team Liquid. Blizzard does something that's unquestionably good for consumers and the first few replies in the thread are all about casting what they did in as negative a light as possible.
If I started beating my wife should I get applauded when I'm finished because it's good for the her that I finally stopped beating her, or should I be arrested?
I don't think you should be arrested for beating your wife, but I do think that you should be arrested for making awful analogies. Blizzard's contention of this copyright has had zero negative effects on consumers, and now they've reached an agreement that will prevent any negative effects from happening in the future. The "copyright dispute" and "wife-beating" situations are nothing alike because Blizzard never did anything to hurt anyone.
How can you claim that it would have had "zero negative effects" when if they won and their counter claim was granted the very people that maintained the game over the years basically for free, with no support from Blizzard, would have been denied the fruits of their labor? Blizzard would have just stolen their brand and slapped it on some polished turd, catching unaware consumers thinking this is the "real" Dota. And then the lawsuit in itself was an abomination. From what I've read of it, it basically had no grounds: just piled random facts and no solid arguments but good enough to last in court for some time. If it wasn't Valve but some small squishy company the lawsuit in itself would have been a win for Blizzard as the prolonged legal battle would have been too cost prohibitive for the small developer. The only reason Blizzard backed down is that the other side had resources to fight back. This doesn't make their initial decision to file this kind of lawsuit any less abhorrent.
If Blizzard won the lawsuit, no one, NO ONE, would be able to trademark the name Dota in this lifetime. They couldn't "steal" it lol.Last edit: 2012-05-12 06:46:38 |
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