| wherebugsgo United States. May 25 2012 04:10. Posts 7931 | Profile Blog # |
lol.
you guys realize that it's 9v4, right?
It will require at least 4 of us to be correct on a single lynch to ensure that scum die. If we cannot agree on zealos or zelblade then it might even be better to kill someone like tunkeg.
Neither zealos nor zelblade seem particularly interested in defending themselves. No one else wants to defend them either. This is not an easy situation to be in, but there's not much we can do outside of just waiting a few hours. Continuing the way we're going is just going to cause us to lose faster. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 25 2012 04:11. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm not sold on Zelblade either. So you think that Zealos is town now bugs? |
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| Mattchew United States. May 25 2012 04:13. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
On May 25 2012 04:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:54 Mattchew wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:53 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
He lurks, lies, empty promises, and has contradictions WBG
Nothing in comparison to Zealos, as outlined.
the difference is i don't see the scum motive in zealos's faults
You don't see the scum motive, in for example, saying I couldn't defend myself for Acrofales and then later accusing me based on it? You don't see the scum motive in, say, lynching a townie because he didn't have any reads despite the fact he could have made them? You don't see the scum motive in him saying there was nothing scummy to see, and then waking up AFTER the lynch and finding such things? Are you blind?
you cant defend yourself against them (cause you arent him), but that doesnt mean they cant be used and should be thrown away like they never happened. (Acro gave me my initial townread on you guys btw) I don't know what you are referring to with your 2nd point. I don't know when he actually sleeps so idk why that matters. Also, I think it would have been easier for him as scum to just sit idle and let the thread go wild then to make the comments he did. He doesn't seem stubborn with his reads or thoughts, which I find to be pretty telling that he doesn't have much information.
Alright, let's do zelblade. Something came up in his life and he couldn't play mafia. Oh look town motivation. Shall we discard both cases now?
Why would he point something out as being scummy (jumping around) and then in his next post name 3 players and vote a new one (who 2 of his scum reads were also voting) |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 25 2012 04:13. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # |
| You gave up on Zealos pretty fast bugs Y U jumpy bro? |
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| Mattchew United States. May 25 2012 04:13. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
On May 25 2012 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sold on Zelblade either.
Why? |
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 25 2012 04:13. Posts 7931 | Profile Blog # |
No, I never said that.
However if we can't get more than 3 votes on him and arguing about the case further is just causing problems in the thread we need to explore other avenues. Butting heads is just causing the thread to go up in flames.
There are four scum and they're more than a third of the playerbase. We don't need to solely focus on one person. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 25 2012 04:15. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # |
| Quit fearmongering bugs Cheese and Rice... |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 25 2012 04:15. Posts 11240 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 04:13 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 04:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:54 Mattchew wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:53 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
He lurks, lies, empty promises, and has contradictions WBG
Nothing in comparison to Zealos, as outlined.
the difference is i don't see the scum motive in zealos's faults
You don't see the scum motive, in for example, saying I couldn't defend myself for Acrofales and then later accusing me based on it? You don't see the scum motive in, say, lynching a townie because he didn't have any reads despite the fact he could have made them? You don't see the scum motive in him saying there was nothing scummy to see, and then waking up AFTER the lynch and finding such things? Are you blind?
you cant defend yourself against them (cause you arent him), but that doesnt mean they cant be used and should be thrown away like they never happened. (Acro gave me my initial townread on you guys btw) I don't know what you are referring to with your 2nd point. I don't know when he actually sleeps so idk why that matters. Also, I think it would have been easier for him as scum to just sit idle and let the thread go wild then to make the comments he did. He doesn't seem stubborn with his reads or thoughts, which I find to be pretty telling that he doesn't have much information.
Alright, let's do zelblade. Something came up in his life and he couldn't play mafia. Oh look town motivation. Shall we discard both cases now?
Why would he point something out as being scummy (jumping around) and then in his next post name 3 players and vote a new one (who 2 of his scum reads were also voting)
zelblade said his vote had been jumpy. zelblade looked at the options and then voted for one player, not several. What's the problem? |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 25 2012 04:17. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # |
| Arguing about the case is the point bugs, not a distraction. Discussion is vital,not dangerous. |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 25 2012 04:20. Posts 11240 | Profile # |
I have 3 of my scumteam that I'm reasonably confident on. Now for the 4th.
Need Katina, Acid, and zelblade to either start posting or start posting relevantly. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 25 2012 04:23. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # |
| This is the prevailing thought that bugs has been advocating...that discussion is dangerous because it gives scum information. But what he doesn't mention is that it is also impossible to get the information NEEDED to make informed decisions. |
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| Mattchew United States. May 25 2012 04:23. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote:
Apparently I screwed up that quote tag -_-
Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying.
Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town.
I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally.
##vote: Mouldy Jeb
Also I am going to sleep soon (school) so I probably cant change my vote (deadline sucks for me as usual -_-).
Everyone he is accusing in this post (and basically the entire game) is also voting Mouldy Jeb |
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 25 2012 04:25. Posts 7931 | Profile Blog # |
if zelblade is to post there needs to be a threat for his death.
If he is indeed a townie who is inactive I hope he gets modkilled and the second highest vote getter gets lynched but we can't run that risk either. Losing a townie to a lynch or modkill right now puts us in a really shitty position if the mafia night kill goes through.
I'm not convinced zelblade is scum because I didn't find that his tone fit him being scum. When he has been scum in previous games he's seemed more unsure and on the fence in his posts than in this game. He has some of those same attributes but I don't think the extent is the same. The glaring problem though is that he has almost no posts at all and he has been inactive for like 36 hours.
Zealos has posts and yet is still scummy; we have more information to work with there. Votes don't stick to him and no one defends him, but what's leaving me unsure is the way he himself admitted to voting someone who he thought was more likely to flip town than scum. It's just an odd thing for a scum to do, as opposed to just saying he thought mouldy was scum.
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| Mattchew United States. May 25 2012 04:25. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
On May 25 2012 04:13 Mattchew wrote:Why?
really you're going to ignore me more than you have already? |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 25 2012 04:30. Posts 9679 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Acid~ France. May 25 2012 04:35. Posts 439 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
I have 3 of my scumteam that I'm reasonably confident on. Now for the 4th.
Need Katina, Acid, and zelblade to either start posting or start posting relevantly.
Are you high? |
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| Zealos United Kingdom. May 25 2012 04:36. Posts 1723 | Profile Blog # |
| I don't get it. You guys seem happy to complain that I'm not defending myself, and yet, I've defended myself from what Marvel said as far as I'm concerned, any more back and forth only serves to clutter the thread. If any of you people can make the time to actually make decent cases instead of just complaining at each other back and forth. Notice an absence of Hiro? I do. He's happy to sit and watch townies attack each other. |
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| Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. May 25 2012 04:37. Posts 3451 | Profile Blog # |
On May 25 2012 04:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
If he is indeed a townie who is inactive I hope he gets modkilled and the second highest vote getter gets lynched
Lynches resolve before Modkills. |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. May 25 2012 04:38. Posts 11240 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 04:35 Acid~ wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
I have 3 of my scumteam that I'm reasonably confident on. Now for the 4th.
Need Katina, Acid, and zelblade to either start posting or start posting relevantly.
Are you high?
Possibly. Probably shouldn't have included you there.
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| HiroPro United States. May 25 2012 04:38. Posts 2150 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 03:13 Acid~ wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 02:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 25 2012 01:58 Acid~ wrote:
On May 25 2012 01:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
Marvellosity you just have to read my posts. I'm not giving you nothing and you know that. I'm trying to lynch Zealos just as much as you are, but as long as other players are defending him indirectly by voting other players, but not calling him town, we can't get him killed.
Think about it, everyone calls him suspicious but their votes end up elsewhere.
VE at this point is just being annoying and confrontational. I don't particularly care right now why he keeps calling me scum, since he's obviously wrong, but if today's lynch does not fall on scum then I'll take the responsibility for the lynch.
You can lynch me after and town can lose.
I said I'd be OK for a Zealos lynch. I'm willing to change my vote from zelblade to Zealos if you can tell me why you think zelblade isn't scum.
Whether or not Zealos is scum at this point has absolutely nothing to do with zelblade's alignment and therefore I'm obligated to do anything for you in terms of showing you that zelblade is town or whatever. Either you think Zealos is scum or not. Right now I don't feel like sparing very much effort since there's no point when more than half of you don't read to begin with.
And I'm not obligated to follow your directions. Who made you king of the fucking hill? My strongest scumread is Zelblade right now and I intend to push for his death unless someone either 1. makes a case for zelblade's innocence (good luck) 2. makes a stronger case for another lynch As I said, the case against Zealos is not inexistant, but it's not strong either.
Hey, if you think the case against Zealos isn't strong, than why. You don't actually mention anything wrong with the case. All you do is keep saying "i'm ok with him. but the case isn't strong" over and over.
On May 25 2012 03:43 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Katina can I interest you in a thrilling WBG, Nova, Mattchew, Zealos scumteam?
This can very well be the scumteam. NT, Mattchew and Zealos where my strongest day one scumreads. And I think you are perfectly right about WBG, I get a stronger and stronger feeling that he is scum. I also find it wierd that Mattchew suddenly start posting, now that you are fireing at WBG. Makes me think that the scumteam have decided that he needs to start posting and help out WBG. So even if these guys are giving you a hard time don't give up VE. They do it because they are scum.
This is all obvious boilerplate nonsense. I don't know how you guys don't realize that this guy is scum.
On May 25 2012 04:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Zealos has posts and yet is still scummy; we have more information to work with there. Votes don't stick to him and no one defends him, but what's leaving me unsure is the way he himself admitted to voting someone who he thought was more likely to flip town than scum. It's just an odd thing for a scum to do, as opposed to just saying he thought mouldy was scum.
Look at what he wrote. He said that he had townie reads on everyone, but less so of a townie read on Mouldy Jeb. That's bullshit; nobody has zero scum reads. And then he comes back later with some cases, which he apparently didn't feel like coming out with when he voted for someone he thought was townie.
We can either lynch Zealos or we can lynch Tunkeg. There's a huge fucking difference between people who write tons of fake crap and don't care about their votes (Tunkeg and Zealos) and people who don't post anything at all (Zelblade). |
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