| VisceraEyes United States. May 28 2012 14:04. Posts 9718 | Profile Blog # |
But I'm not...if you think I am then you like HAVE to be scum from my perspective. I've explained my motivations and you're resorting to ad hominem attacks to.try and control town...and its working.
It doesn't even matter, hopefully when I flip town everyone will wake up...most everyone voting for me is convinced I'm cum so there's hope. |
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 28 2012 14:36. Posts 7938 | Profile Blog # |
I have to be scum because I think claiming doctor under no lynch pressure is pants on head retarded?
okay. you go with that, tell me how it goes. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 28 2012 15:05. Posts 9718 | Profile Blog # |
My claim had nothing to do with pressure. My claim had to do with explaining my motivations before being lynched. I don't know if you recall, but I said I wanted to be lynched BEFORE I claimed.
Me flipping town absolutely does prove that you're scum Bugs, and everyone is going to realize it when I flip Doctor. Everything I've said is suddenly going to make sense because they don't think I'm scum anymore and you're going to fry. I have faith in town. |
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| Navillus United States. May 28 2012 15:23. Posts 1120 | Profile # |
| Okay i'm mostly caught up, I saw all the claims and right now I want to ask, VE do you still want us to lynch you and go through with your original plan? |
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 28 2012 16:06. Posts 7938 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 15:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
My claim had nothing to do with pressure. My claim had to do with explaining my motivations before being lynched. I don't know if you recall, but I said I wanted to be lynched BEFORE I claimed.
Me flipping town absolutely does prove that you're scum Bugs, and everyone is going to realize it when I flip Doctor. Everything I've said is suddenly going to make sense because they don't think I'm scum anymore and you're going to fry. I have faith in town.
If you do flip town then the only idiot in postgame will be you, not me.
I am town and nothing you do will change that. If you're actually town what you've done so far is not reversible. You take full responsibility for whatever happens afterward.
I don't know what town will do but in the 1% chance you flip town I'm confident they won't kill me. To do that would be to throw the game.
However, at this point if you're not scum that means scum get a free lynch of a townie today. As town you being okay with that is just perplexing. It would mean there are 3 scum who are not you and not me.
Imagine for a second I'm not scum. Who besides me is scum? You haven't done any hunting all game. (and please, calling me scum is by no means scumhunting.)
If you are town, why is it that you have chosen to do exactly what you did in Liar Game? Didn't you read the postgame analysis written by Ver, in which he says that merely antagonizing people, even if they are scum, is no way to actually scumhunt? You lose all credibility and if you're wrong it just makes you look like scum. |
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 28 2012 16:12. Posts 7938 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 15:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
My claim had nothing to do with pressure. My claim had to do with explaining my motivations before being lynched. I don't know if you recall, but I said I wanted to be lynched BEFORE I claimed.
Me flipping town absolutely does prove that you're scum Bugs, and everyone is going to realize it when I flip Doctor. Everything I've said is suddenly going to make sense because they don't think I'm scum anymore and you're going to fry. I have faith in town.
you claimed because you wanted to make this about me and you.
That's a fucking horrendous reason to claim, and you know it. Since when have you known anybody who flipped town to do that?
If you're town and wrong you doom town to lose because you can't get off your tunneling high horse. If you're scum you sacrifice yourself but destroy the thread in the process.
Neither makes much sense, but the latter is far more plausible given that the scumteam wouldn't lose in such a situation. Scum win either way...so how can you seriously argue that what you're doing is in the favor of town?
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 28 2012 18:04. Posts 9718 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 15:23 Navillus wrote:
Okay i'm mostly caught up, I saw all the claims and right now I want to ask, VE do you still want us to lynch you and go through with your original plan?
Only if I'm confident that Bugs is next, which right now I'm not.  I prefer not to die if he doesn't die tomorrow. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. May 28 2012 18:09. Posts 9718 | Profile Blog # |
| Bugs you've been antagonizing me all game. I've been calling you scum for it. I've had to repeatedly ask you to cease with insults and BM, the only person what you're saying applies to is you. And furthermore, now YOU are the one bombing the thread, not me. So please, just die. |
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| froggynoddy United Kingdom. May 28 2012 20:40. Posts 387 | Profile # |
Am so sorry guys, moving into the countryside and not having internet has really made it difficult to play. This is not an excuse, this is an apology.
##Vote VisceraEyes
I'm voting VE for a few reasons.
1. He's been acting really weird with this WBG thing. Note he hasn't actually made a formal case against him, he's only been perpetuating this weird feud thats going on. VE has always been aggressive, but he's never acted (in my limited experience) so irrationally. If he thought WBG is town he would try and convince us, not constantly attack WBG.
2. His Medic claim is the dumbest thing ever. Even I wouldn't protect me D1, I was one of the lurkiest and players and also not super important to town in terms of my scumhunting skills (I freely admit this).
3. This:
On May 28 2012 00:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
/salute
Wait, it's still as I said before - if I flip town you guys better flip Bugs next. There's literally no way we're both town at this point and anyone who doesn't see that has really been taken in by scum this game.
At any rate, I'll cooperate fully as I promised.
A small scumslip but added to his general behaviour I cannot see him flipping anything other than red
I am also doubtful of N_T 's claim. Apart from me he wasnt under any real pressure so claiming now makes very little sense. Yes he may want to give us a definite red as Hiro but surely he should have tried pushing this without claiming at first to see he could slip in another DT check N3, it just seems like a silly move (though a less silly move than VE's. I could see it as trying to divert attention away from VE onto HiroPro. Another scum motivation for these potential fakeclaims would be to out the real Blues.
Which leads us to Matthchew's post:
On May 28 2012 02:01 Mattchew wrote:Ok guys, the way I see it we have 2 fights. VisceraEyes vs Wherebugsgo
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Nova_tera vs HIropro We have the 2 claims of VE (Doc) and NT (Det). I firmly believe that ANY BLUE ROLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND CLAIM NOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE 2 ROLES. Also, I believe we should be voting on the NT vs Hiro case because we get a confirmed scum out of the claim (NT if Hiro flips green and Hiro if NT isn't lying) despite how confident VE is in his read I was wrong about the Zealos vs Hiropro situation so I would like more opinions on them before I make my vote. Right now I side with believe NT and would like to vote Hiropro
... added to what has been said regarding VE and NT this looks like a pretty slick scumplay. This is clearly a huge assumption and I am not nearly as certain of NT and Mat as I am of VE. I just wanted to post my thoughts as I was unsure as to when I might post again.
Again apologies but real life has ****ed me over bigtime. |
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| froggynoddy United Kingdom. May 28 2012 20:41. Posts 387 | Profile # |
| EBWOP: I mean 'concerted scumplay' not slick. |
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| froggynoddy United Kingdom. May 28 2012 20:44. Posts 387 | Profile # |
| Oh and Marv getting killed by scum to me seems like scum are trying to get us to lynch Hiro (as Marv was the only one pushing the HiroPro scum scenario). |
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| froggynoddy United Kingdom. May 28 2012 20:47. Posts 387 | Profile # |
| EBWOP: obviously that last comment is exceptionally WIFOM-ey but its just my feeling on the issue. |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 28 2012 21:05. Posts 872 | Profile # |
| Hey froggy in that case you think NT's claim is bullshit? |
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| froggynoddy United Kingdom. May 28 2012 21:16. Posts 387 | Profile # |
Indeed. The above case is assuming a VE, NT (and perhaps Mat) joint effort to out blues and put pressure off VE and force a lynch on Hiro. As I am more confident in VE being scum regardless of the veracity in N_T's claim, the aforementioned hypothesis is just something for town to consider after VE flips.
EDIT: on initial post I meant to say regarding point 1 VE case: 'If he thinks WBG is scum he would try to convince us...'
Two hour commutes are seriously sapping my ability to communicate coherently. |
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| Tunkeg Norway. May 28 2012 23:37. Posts 1159 | Profile Blog # |
Can we get an official votecount?
People need to post their opinion on the claims. This is you Katina and you Navilus.
VE can we get your opinion on N_T's claim as well? |
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| Nova_Terra Switzerland. May 28 2012 23:49. Posts 1180 | Profile # |
*sigh*
heres the thing. if we lynch VE and he turns out doctor, we will have no choice but to lynch bugs because of nobody trusts my claim enough to go with it. I think we should all go for a sure 1-1 at the worst and lynch Hiro first. Kill me if he flips townie. |
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| zelblade Singapore. May 28 2012 23:52. Posts 872 | Profile # |
| Why do we have to lynch bugs wtf |
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| Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. May 28 2012 23:55. Posts 3458 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 23:37 Tunkeg wrote:
Can we get an official votecount?
Sorry, will get on it. My main PC blew up yesterday so I'm stuck with my laptop until the new one arrives.
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| Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. May 29 2012 00:01. Posts 3458 | Profile Blog # |
Vote Count - 7 hours to go
Katina (0): wherebugsgo
HiroPro (1): Nova_Terra
VisceraEyes (5): wherebugsgo, zelblade, Tunkeg, HiroPro, froggynoddy
Not Voted (4): Mattchew, Katina, Navillus, VisceraEyes
Remember that voting is mandatory. Not voting results in a modkill. |
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| Nova_Terra Switzerland. May 29 2012 00:05. Posts 1180 | Profile # |
| Nobody trusts my claim enough to go from a VE lynch to a hiro one if we arent mistaken |
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