| Medrea May 24 2012 12:34. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
| Perma stun any boss or mob. Thats how its overpowered. |
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| affinity United States. May 24 2012 12:35. Posts 178 | Profile Blog # |
| It's been gone over and over multiple times in this thread. Centered around critical strikes, Critical Mass passive, and fast hitting spells. |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 24 2012 12:38. Posts 8889 | Profile Blog # |
| id like to hear how it ISNT overpowered |
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| hkf Australia. May 24 2012 12:53. Posts 322 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 12:33 NotSorry wrote:
Explain in detail this "crit build".
you crit and it reduces cooldown on defensive abilities
use LL + VW + VH to do damage |
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| Silentenigma May 24 2012 13:04. Posts 1028 | Profile # |
| did anyone find viable act3/4 solo build?I feel like crit build has too many weak points. Last edit: 2012-05-24 13:04:17 |
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| Xtreme94 Malaysia. May 24 2012 13:13. Posts 265 | Profile # |
| Where is the best place for 52lvl wizard farming with 2k dps? |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 24 2012 13:26. Posts 8889 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 13:04 Silentenigma wrote:
did anyone find viable act3/4 solo build?I feel like crit build has too many weak points.
honestly, it's weak point is diamond skin. Once you get to higher acts things will probably tear through it like butter. |
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| Silentenigma May 24 2012 13:32. Posts 1028 | Profile # |
| I had 34k hp 25 crit with 21k damage.I couldnt kill elite mobs in late act 2.There are just too many counters to it.Shielded mobs dont get stunned.Ranged ones runaway teleport kite etc.Fast ones are so hard to freeze all of them.Desecration and plague are pain in the ass. |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 24 2012 13:56. Posts 8889 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 13:32 Silentenigma wrote:
I had 34k hp 25 crit with 21k damage.I couldnt kill elite mobs in late act 2.There are just too many counters to it.Shielded mobs dont get stunned.Ranged ones runaway teleport kite etc.Fast ones are so hard to freeze all of them.Desecration and plague are pain in the ass.
34k hp is overkill. You need JUST enough not to die in 1 shot. This also means that your diamond skin will take less damage. Say I had 40k hp and something hit me for 20k. That'd eat through diamond skin since 35% of 40k is a lot more than 35% of 21k. |
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| iLLusive United States. May 24 2012 15:03. Posts 268 | Profile # |
| So hit lvl 20 and really starting to die more....so seeking any suggestions to be on look out for gear from AH. Right now trying to get vit+ items and obviously stuff with int / magic find / armor. Just really enjoyed the first 20 lvls but now feels like i've hit speed bump and dying a ton more..could be my build I guess but think it is more lack of gear. I do have roughly 7 rare items though so not sure how I could be that far behind the norm. |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. May 24 2012 15:16. Posts 12831 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 13:13 Xtreme94 wrote:
Where is the best place for 52lvl wizard farming with 2k dps?
Best place is to get to 60 + inferno and farm there. Don't be lazy. :D |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. May 24 2012 15:19. Posts 12831 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 13:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 13:32 Silentenigma wrote:
I had 34k hp 25 crit with 21k damage.I couldnt kill elite mobs in late act 2.There are just too many counters to it.Shielded mobs dont get stunned.Ranged ones runaway teleport kite etc.Fast ones are so hard to freeze all of them.Desecration and plague are pain in the ass.
34k hp is overkill. You need JUST enough not to die in 1 shot. This also means that your diamond skin will take less damage. Say I had 40k hp and something hit me for 20k. That'd eat through diamond skin since 35% of 40k is a lot more than 35% of 21k.
This is what I was thinking but then I realised that higher hp = you can tank more painful hits (due to the newly implemented 100% max hp fix). I'm leaving it up to the really really smart people to figure it out and I'll just copy them.
I currently have 25k and don't know where to go from here. Obviously more int is good, but what secondary/tertiary stats to go for apart from vitality? I've already got 15% attack speed on every slot that can have it but beyond that, hmm.Last edit: 2012-05-24 15:21:43 |
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| Silentenigma May 24 2012 15:20. Posts 1028 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 13:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 13:32 Silentenigma wrote:
I had 34k hp 25 crit with 21k damage.I couldnt kill elite mobs in late act 2.There are just too many counters to it.Shielded mobs dont get stunned.Ranged ones runaway teleport kite etc.Fast ones are so hard to freeze all of them.Desecration and plague are pain in the ass.
34k hp is overkill. You need JUST enough not to die in 1 shot. This also means that your diamond skin will take less damage. Say I had 40k hp and something hit me for 20k. That'd eat through diamond skin since 35% of 40k is a lot more than 35% of 21k.
By that logic I should skip vit at all?I dont undertand the math here.How many HP do I need to not get one shot in act 2 act 3? |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 24 2012 15:33. Posts 8889 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 15:20 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 13:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On May 24 2012 13:32 Silentenigma wrote:
I had 34k hp 25 crit with 21k damage.I couldnt kill elite mobs in late act 2.There are just too many counters to it.Shielded mobs dont get stunned.Ranged ones runaway teleport kite etc.Fast ones are so hard to freeze all of them.Desecration and plague are pain in the ass.
34k hp is overkill. You need JUST enough not to die in 1 shot. This also means that your diamond skin will take less damage. Say I had 40k hp and something hit me for 20k. That'd eat through diamond skin since 35% of 40k is a lot more than 35% of 21k.
By that logic I should skip vit at all?I dont undertand the math here.How many HP do I need to not get one shot in act 2 act 3?
They nerfed it to where if the attack hits harder than your total life you die anyway and force armor doesn't negate it. |
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| Sylvex United States. May 24 2012 15:40. Posts 100 | Profile # |
I have a question on the math, since the spell can block only your max hp's worth but doesnt block all of the damage only reduces does that mean you can take <1.35 x max hp damage and still survive?
For example, wiz has 10k hp, if you get hit for 10k damage do you die or does it get reduced by 6500 because 6500 is less than 10k? If I get hit for 12k do I die or is it reduced again because its only reducing by 8500? |
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| Mammel Finland. May 24 2012 15:51. Posts 166 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 15:40 Sylvex wrote:
I have a question on the math, since the spell can block only your max hp's worth but doesnt block all of the damage only reduces does that mean you can take <1.35 x max hp damage and still survive?
For example, wiz has 10k hp, if you get hit for 10k damage do you die or does it get reduced by 6500 because 6500 is less than 10k? If I get hit for 12k do I die or is it reduced again because its only reducing by 8500?
With 10k hp you should be able to take 19999 hit and have 1hp left. |
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| Appendix Sweden. May 24 2012 15:54. Posts 600 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 15:40 Sylvex wrote:
I have a question on the math, since the spell can block only your max hp's worth but doesnt block all of the damage only reduces does that mean you can take <1.35 x max hp damage and still survive?
For example, wiz has 10k hp, if you get hit for 10k damage do you die or does it get reduced by 6500 because 6500 is less than 10k? If I get hit for 12k do I die or is it reduced again because its only reducing by 8500?
It is as you think. In both cases it will be reduced to 35%. To die instantly with 10k hp and FA you will have to be hit by a 20k damage attack. |
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| Tobberoth Sweden. May 24 2012 15:57. Posts 4721 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 15:40 Sylvex wrote:
I have a question on the math, since the spell can block only your max hp's worth but doesnt block all of the damage only reduces does that mean you can take <1.35 x max hp damage and still survive?
For example, wiz has 10k hp, if you get hit for 10k damage do you die or does it get reduced by 6500 because 6500 is less than 10k? If I get hit for 12k do I die or is it reduced again because its only reducing by 8500?
Pretty sure it's the absorbed amount which matter, so if you have 10k damage and is hit for 10k, you only take 35% damage from the attack since it's over 35% of your hp, which is 3500. Since 3500 is less than 100% of your hp, that's fine. However, if you're hit for 40k damage, 35% of 40k is well over 10k, so you'll die because the FA will only absorb 10k, the rest will come through. |
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| Silentenigma May 24 2012 16:04. Posts 1028 | Profile # |
| So how much hp do we need 40 50k minimum? |
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| Sylvex United States. May 24 2012 16:06. Posts 100 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 15:51 Mammel wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 15:40 Sylvex wrote:
I have a question on the math, since the spell can block only your max hp's worth but doesnt block all of the damage only reduces does that mean you can take <1.35 x max hp damage and still survive?
For example, wiz has 10k hp, if you get hit for 10k damage do you die or does it get reduced by 6500 because 6500 is less than 10k? If I get hit for 12k do I die or is it reduced again because its only reducing by 8500?
With 10k hp you should be able to take 19999 hit and have 1hp left.
Ok, pretty sure I understand now. Thanks those who answered. |
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