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GSTL Season 2: oGs out, EG+Slayers, LG-IM+SK in - Page 11

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 Ripeace   May 18 2012 01:57. Posts 33
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Nestea and MVP are probably the best terran and zerg, but MC isn't the best protoss, almost every Korean know how to counter his style. Even Ganzy owned him 2-0 in code A.
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 Gladiator6   Sweden. May 18 2012 01:59. Posts 6821
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On May 18 2012 01:57 Ripeace wrote:
Nestea and MVP are probably the best terran and zerg, but MC isn't the best protoss, almost every Korean know how to counter his style. Even Ganzy owned him 2-0 in code A.


Well Keen won over NesTea in Code A, your point?
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  ZeroSC2   Korea (South). May 18 2012 02:18. Posts 668Profile # 
DRG is best Zerg in the world, but NesTea the one that won the most money so far.

MVP best Terran atm is pretty bold as well, he has yet to beat Squirtle, the strongest Protoss at the moment.

I would easily rank MMA, MKP and probably aLive on the same level as him, not incl. 2011 of course.

Basically IM-SK = Top 3 Prizemoney getters.
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 hangene92   Canada. May 18 2012 02:19. Posts 207
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I think this will be one amazing season 2! Although its sad to see ogs leave like this but can u imagine LG-IM and SK, MVP, Nestea, and SK-MC in one team? Thats like game over right there!
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
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 Mystgun   Hong Kong. May 18 2012 02:21. Posts 279
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LOL, MVP, Nestea, and MC on the same team. So imba...
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 ch33psh33p   May 18 2012 02:33. Posts 2582
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On May 18 2012 02:18 ZeroSC2 wrote:
DRG is best Zerg in the world, but NesTea the one that won the most money so far.

MVP best Terran atm is pretty bold as well, he has yet to beat Squirtle, the strongest Protoss at the moment.

I would easily rank MMA, MKP and probably aLive on the same level as him, not incl. 2011 of course.

Basically IM-SK = Top 3 Prizemoney getters.

MMA has been losing to everyone lately, and aLive isn't a fair comparison at all. He hasn't done anything in the GSL lately.

Squirtle as the strongest Protoss only happened because everyone said Parting, and then he got destroyed by MVP. Questionable assumptions? It was literally less than 2 weeks ago when everyone said Parting would run the table on his remaining matches.
 
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  ZeroSC2   Korea (South). May 18 2012 02:41. Posts 668Profile # 

On May 18 2012 02:33 ch33psh33p wrote:

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MMA has been losing to everyone lately, and aLive isn't a fair comparison at all. He hasn't done anything in the GSL lately.

Squirtle as the strongest Protoss only happened because everyone said Parting, and then he got destroyed by MVP. Questionable assumptions? It was literally less than 2 weeks ago when everyone said Parting would run the table on his remaining matches.


MMA just won Iron Squid.

PartinG was said to have the best PvT, but I ve already said Squirtle is the best Overall Balanced Protoss, with no real weakness.

aLive IPL4 title still is as big as a Code S title, so he can be compared with anyone.
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 JujuXG   United States. May 18 2012 03:24. Posts 373
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OP SK-IM 3-3-(4) Gsl Champion
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  SeaSwift   Scotland. May 18 2012 03:28. Posts 4485Profile Blog # 

On May 18 2012 02:41 ZeroSC2 wrote:

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MMA just won Iron Squid.

PartinG was said to have the best PvT, but I ve already said Squirtle is the best Overall Balanced Protoss, with no real weakness.

aLive IPL4 title still is as big as a Code S title, so he can be compared with anyone.



I agree with you that Squirtle is probably the best Protoss at the moment, with ridiculous PvP, PvZ and PvT.

It just frustrates me. He's really good and everything, but he seems to lack flair, and he doesn't WOW me. Maybe it's just bitterness as a long-time MC fan, but while MC had the most ridiculous timings in PvT, it was actually very exciting when he did so. The Forcefields and constant aggression were fantastic to watch, and almost all of the best PvX series ever have included MC. Similarly, he has had very exciting and many "WTF" moments, which just added character to his play.

Squirtle, on the other hand, is generally pretty uninspiring. His PvP is probably the best in the world, but he doesn't play in a particularly interesting way. His PvT revolves around the shittest, dullest 2base Stalker-Colossus timing in the world (however, his lategame play is pretty sick - no more interesting than any other top Protoss, though) and his PvZ, while really good, is not stupendous.

Basically, he's solid but lacks the key flair and style of the Big 3 from last year. I know that the title of Best Protoss is given for skill rather than style points, but if Squirtle continues to do well I can easily see myself losing interest. Aside from 1 great game against MVP about a year ago in GSTL, why should I be interested in him? (Genuine question, not rhetorical)

edit: perhaps more suitable as a blog post.
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 freeshooter   United States. May 18 2012 03:29. Posts 289
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Wut? MVP Nestea MC all on same team? Hide yo wife, hide yo kids, cause they gonna dominate GSTL this season
 
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  AgentChaos   United Kingdom. May 18 2012 03:31. Posts 4563Profile # 
gls champions overload!!
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 S_SienZ   May 18 2012 03:34. Posts 1795
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On May 18 2012 02:18 ZeroSC2 wrote:
DRG is best Zerg in the world, but NesTea the one that won the most money so far.

MVP best Terran atm is pretty bold as well, he has yet to beat Squirtle, the strongest Protoss at the moment.

I would easily rank MMA, MKP and probably aLive on the same level as him, not incl. 2011 of course.

Basically IM-SK = Top 3 Prizemoney getters.


LOL what does beating the strongest Protoss have to do with laying claim to the title of best Terran.....????
 
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 mastergriggy   United States. May 18 2012 03:40. Posts 1297
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Well...I'm voting in favor of the team with Nestea, MC, and MVP. But right behind that Liquid. Go Liquid!
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  ZeroSC2   Korea (South). May 18 2012 03:42. Posts 668Profile # 

On May 18 2012 03:34 S_SienZ wrote:

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LOL what does beating the strongest Protoss have to do with laying claim to the title of best Terran.....????


If MVP fails to win GSL, hes not best Terran in my book

Both MMA and aLive won Major titles the last 3 months, and MKP won MLG.
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 Kazeyonoma   United States. May 18 2012 03:46. Posts 2232
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while i'm excited about the eg slayers partnership AND MC on the same team as MVP and Nestea.

it sucks that the walkover had to happen and not a quick squeeze of another team could've made it in. that means group b chances of advancement are way easier than group As.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
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 Fragile51   Netherlands. May 18 2012 03:46. Posts 15570
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On May 18 2012 03:28 SeaSwift wrote:

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I agree with you that Squirtle is probably the best Protoss at the moment, with ridiculous PvP, PvZ and PvT.

It just frustrates me. He's really good and everything, but he seems to lack flair, and he doesn't WOW me. Maybe it's just bitterness as a long-time MC fan, but while MC had the most ridiculous timings in PvT, it was actually very exciting when he did so. The Forcefields and constant aggression were fantastic to watch, and almost all of the best PvX series ever have included MC. Similarly, he has had very exciting and many "WTF" moments, which just added character to his play.

Squirtle, on the other hand, is generally pretty uninspiring. His PvP is probably the best in the world, but he doesn't play in a particularly interesting way. His PvT revolves around the shittest, dullest 2base Stalker-Colossus timing in the world (however, his lategame play is pretty sick - no more interesting than any other top Protoss, though) and his PvZ, while really good, is not stupendous.

Basically, he's solid but lacks the key flair and style of the Big 3 from last year. I know that the title of Best Protoss is given for skill rather than style points, but if Squirtle continues to do well I can easily see myself losing interest. Aside from 1 great game against MVP about a year ago in GSTL, why should I be interested in him? (Genuine question, not rhetorical)

edit: perhaps more suitable as a blog post.


Woah, well done. You've managed to capture my excact thoughts in one post.
 
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  ZeroSC2   Korea (South). May 18 2012 03:52. Posts 668Profile # 

On May 18 2012 03:46 Kazeyonoma wrote:
while i'm excited about the eg slayers partnership AND MC on the same team as MVP and Nestea.

it sucks that the walkover had to happen and not a quick squeeze of another team could've made it in. that means group b chances of advancement are way easier than group As.


not really,

fnatic and TSL have to face off twice now, not sure if thats easier than playing oGs (probably slightly easier opponent than TSL)

Its easier for IM-SK tho, only one win and they are through. Sucks imo.
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 rysecake   United States. May 18 2012 04:01. Posts 2477
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On May 18 2012 03:42 ZeroSC2 wrote:

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If MVP fails to win GSL, hes not best Terran in my book

Both MMA and aLive won Major titles the last 3 months, and MKP won MLG.


And yet...mma and mkp can't even make it past code A whereas a CTS inflicted king is running through everyone.
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  HQuality   May 18 2012 04:04. Posts 2679Profile # 
next news:
"LG-IM AND SK joins KT Rolster" ^______^
No carpal tunnel no skill
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 Dakure   United States. May 18 2012 04:04. Posts 486
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On May 18 2012 03:46 Fragile51 wrote:

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Woah, well done. You've managed to capture my excact thoughts in one post.


I like to place each player I follow into one of two sets: I follow because he's good vs I follow because I like him(interviews, personalities, etc). Example:
I'm a Zerg player. Even though I didn't like Stephano as a personality, I had to respect his dominating play so whenever he was in a finals or something, I watched if I could. Likewise, ViBE isn't placing top 4 in every tournament but I like tuning into his stream because of his interaction with the chat.

When a player is on top, more people study him--his style gets figured out. When I follow a player because he's good, I like to see how that player develops and if he can continue his streak of dominance; how long will it take for others to force him out of his 2 base Colossus style in PvT and what's his response going to be? Even if he's winning with boring strategies now, he's at least smart enough to think of the strategies, so what, if anything will he do next? etc. I guess the general theme is following development of strategies.
 
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