| ilovelings Argentina. May 17 2012 22:40. Posts 636 | Profile # |
I just can't adapt to the average pub team. I usually find myself fighting alone or running away on my own and my team gets raped. I have been playing for 6 years with my team and now that they are not regularly available I just can't coordinate with other players.
Another weird thing is that I find the NA playstyle too conservative. |
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| RockIronrod Australia. May 17 2012 22:53. Posts 637 | Profile # |
I play pushers, and take every tower on the map. Sure the carry can't last hit for shit, but the huge influx of gold he gets makes it impossible to not be somewhat useful.
That's why I love playing Furion. |
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| LAN-f34r New Zealand. May 17 2012 23:03. Posts 1057 | Profile # |
Its often a good idea to play people that have quite good escape. Then you act as the leader of the team - push this tower, defend here, etc. When some retard inevitably gets caught behind, you can often save them and still escape.
Morph is a good example of this, provides a good distraction and can slow them slightly with his stun, but will never die if replicate is still up (and probably not anyway  ). Windrunner is another good example.
Also, don't worry about people being a little too conservative. Its far better to work as a team than to try to get every single kill possible. The problem is when people aren't conservative when they should be :S |
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| Count9 China. May 17 2012 23:24. Posts 3682 | Profile Blog # |
There's no way to coordinate a random pub 100% but I find the best way to try and get allies to work together is the same as the best way to win a game: go solo mid with a hero that can take over the game by himself if you have farm, win mid, get free farm, rape everything, tell your allies to do stuff. People tend to listen a lot more to the solo mid that's raping everything than some random side lane with 10 creeps cause his partner is ruining every last hit imaginable.
Ofc you'll get games where both side lanes lose cause they're bad or they picked drow clinx huskar void and they gank you every time you're in lane cause they see you're the only lane doing well but no amount of coordination will save players that bad so it doesn't matter.Last edit: 2012-05-17 23:29:59 |
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| .Aar May 18 2012 12:08. Posts 2043 | Profile # |
| People usually respond to ping if you're doing well enough on your own. Other than that, yeah, I would recommend playing pushers so you can dictate the flow of the game yourself, and hoping your team gets its shit together for one or two good teamfights. |
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| Candadar May 18 2012 12:14. Posts 1791 | Profile Blog # |
You can't work with everyone, there are always those people.
But a nice attitude and a friendly demeanor go a long way in making teammates not act like retards or dicks. |
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| Mid[N]ight- United States. May 18 2012 12:30. Posts 136 | Profile # |
| Pubs are so bad. I usually play with a team but when they are not available, solo queuing is the worst experience. Everyone picks carrys and they proceed to flame everyone when losing. Don't recommend playing with pubs at all |
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| Griefer Australia. May 18 2012 12:41. Posts 128 | Profile # |
| You don't coordinate. Pick a relatively high skill ceiling hero like mirana or storm then feed off their retards more than they can feed off of yours |
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| bored01 Australia. May 18 2012 12:54. Posts 85 | Profile # |
| What are some other good pub mid heroes besides mirana/storm? I like playing both of these but would like to know some other mid heroes too. |
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| ThePurist Canada. May 18 2012 13:09. Posts 669 | Profile Blog # |
My personal rules:
0. Never get mad/blame and just laugh off if bad/stupid/etc whatever it's just a game
1. Mid solo with one of my best/high performing heroes to control runes
2. Never expect anything: courier/upgrade/wards/counter-warding
3. Ping if you see enemy ganks coming and just say "b"
4. Carry multiple TPs to help out a lane to scare off the enemy guys or something if they are pushing
5. Constantly look for pushing opportunities instead of co-ordinating stuff
6. Try to join a gank instead of setting up a gank (just predict if they are going to fight or not and just jump in to make it like a 2v1 or something)
7. Farm non-stop there is no excuse lol
8. Make new friends if they have good attitudes and then have friendly non-rager games with like minded people
9. HF with it and try awesome builds
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| Griefer Australia. May 18 2012 13:13. Posts 128 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 12:54 bored01 wrote:
What are some other good pub mid heroes besides mirana/storm? I like playing both of these but would like to know some other mid heroes too.
*shrug* If you're somewhat decent you can stomp with pretty much any semi carry you can think of, or just pick a hard carry and laugh because your opponent has ran off to try and fail 7 different ganks against inferior carries/retards/supports leaving you free farming for 25 minutes.
Pubs are silly |
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| Yoshi Kirishima United States. May 18 2012 13:48. Posts 9002 | Profile Blog # |
i pick a hero who has decent carrying abilities and that can gank
if you play a pure support role, but have bad teammates, it won't really help...
but if you can play as a ganker who is decent late-game if you can net some kills early, you can take advantage of the weak links on the opponent's team
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| sharky246 May 18 2012 13:51. Posts 1010 | Profile Blog # |
I reakon playing some stunner and other disabler which is what i do (demon witch, vs, rhasta, etc) because usually pub teams will have like 2~3 carries (e.g. void, antimage, riki on 1 team). Or an alternative would be a support hero to babysit one of the carries but i doubt it will do good because those pub guys might suck at last hitting. Basically, anything that isn't a carry (including semi-carry) is always a better choice of hero.
And also, people in pubs don't buy observer wards, so you should take the initiative and buy them for the team (hence, not choosing a carry is a good idea in pub), it is so worth it.Last edit: 2012-05-18 13:53:57 |
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| dartoo India. May 18 2012 13:55. Posts 2203 | Profile # |
On May 17 2012 22:53 RockIronrod wrote:
I play pushers, and take every tower on the map. Sure the carry can't last hit for shit, but the huge influx of gold he gets makes it impossible to not be somewhat useful.
That's why I love playing Furion.
This, most people end up choosing carry type heroes, and can last hit for nuts, and a lot of them cant handle early pressure, so go pushers, and keep taking towers down and they crumble. venomancer/np.
Or alternatively you could just go bounty/rikki, and kill your way to victory, because gems/wards are so rare in pubs, and even if they do buy a gem, it is lost so easily. |
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| DoNotDisturb Singapore. May 18 2012 15:33. Posts 5250 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2012 12:54 bored01 wrote:
What are some other good pub mid heroes besides mirana/storm? I like playing both of these but would like to know some other mid heroes too.
Tiny is a good choice if the opponents have 2 or more squishy heroes - even if you have a bad start, once you hit level 9 or so and have decent rune control, you can just run around rapingganking everyone. |
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| Catch]22 Sweden. May 18 2012 17:23. Posts 2337 | Profile Blog # |
| stop playing AP and SD, and probably even RD, the quality of Captains Mode pubs is space ages ahead of the other pubs. |
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| Spiffeh United States. May 18 2012 17:32. Posts 780 | Profile # |
| They're just pubs. Play for fun and ignore the rest. |
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| LAN-f34r New Zealand. May 18 2012 18:11. Posts 1057 | Profile # |
I find SD and RD suitable for not having absolute terribles. AP<SD<RD<CM, but that's also true for wait times  |
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| choe Germany. May 18 2012 18:29. Posts 60 | Profile # |
just dont play dota2 alone! the matchmaking is so terribly bad right now...
better go back to dota1 at dotacash or dotalicious or whatever if you wanna play alone.
or play with atleast 2 mates in matchmaking dota2 |
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| rabidch Singapore. May 18 2012 18:38. Posts 8061 | Profile # |
On May 18 2012 17:23 Catch]22 wrote:
stop playing AP and SD, and probably even RD, the quality of Captains Mode pubs is space ages ahead of the other pubs.
RD is the best really. I've played quite a few CM games with friends and it's always been stomps with joke picks. Inexplicably on Page 1. We're not good, and the other team isn't good either yet...?Last edit: 2012-05-18 19:24:41 |
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