Witch Doctor Discussion

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#hfRPjT!ZUb!ccaacc

With this build I'm in act 4 hell and I'm not having many problems. However it just doesn't work for solo... the damage is there for sure, but I get destroyed if they get to me through hex and mass confusion and the pet buffer. Any suggestions?

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Ottoxlol May 23 2012 06:55. Posts 555

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Why would anyone go posion darts (not with stun for bigger mobs) over firebomb/flash fire?

On May 23 2012 06:51 PeT[uK] wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#hfRPjT!ZUb!ccaacc

With this build I'm in act 4 hell and I'm not having many problems. However it just doesn't work for solo... the damage is there for sure, but I get destroyed if they get to me through hex and mass confusion and the pet buffer. Any suggestions?

Spirit walk is a must have. Personally I dislike Hex and Fetish army, I am going with wall of zombies and spirit walk. Also I found Vision quest is enough mana for everything so you can swap Spiritual Attunement with Spirit Veil/ Fetish/ Pierce the Veil

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Blitzkrieg0 United States. May 23 2012 07:08. Posts 4813

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On May 23 2012 06:55 Ottoxlol wrote:
Why would anyone go posion darts (not with stun for bigger mobs) over firebomb/flash fire?

Because splinter does much more single target damage (as well as poison to activate Bad Medicine). If you're going to AoE there are much better skills to use, especially with Vision Quest's infinite mana.

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Germany. May 23 2012 07:35. Posts 1417

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On May 19 2012 11:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#hSdeUT!ZTc!ZaZYcc

Are you still playing this build and with what gear (2H or 1H+Mojo or even shield? (i guess 1h+mojo ^^)). I'm running around with a barb most of the time and recently switched from: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#gZdRUT!WfU!ZaZacc (often swapped passives depending on champs/boss to jungle fort.+ blood ritual + VQ (swapped garg for bbv on (act) bosses and changed rune spirit barrage to phlebotomize)).

Still found this VQ stuff to be annoying (run through whole NM with a dire bat VQ build). Also hated this in your face playstyle with ZB. Changed to http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aSdRUT!ZXW!aZZacc recently - might swap garg vs horrify (garg still feels way to vulnerable). Didn't have used that vs the bigger bosses now, also not sure if i could implement haunt within this build :/

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Blitzkrieg0 United States. May 23 2012 07:59. Posts 4813

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On May 23 2012 07:35 dezi wrote:

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aSdeUP!Zbc!acZYcZ

Nearly the same thing, but Inferno has warranted a few minor changes: getting rid of Gargantuan and my liking poison dart instead of firebomb. I run 1H+Shield stacking vitality where possible. I still DoT things and then run around in circles until they're dead. ~35k life, 11k dps with Soul Harvest and clearing Inferno Act 1. Biggest problem is elites at the very start of caves where there is little room to kite. I use a different build for Act bosses (Normally Vision Quested Spirit Barrage), but I kinda just do that on the spot.

I play solo almost exclusively though. I think a Vision Quest zombie bear build would be far superior with a tank.

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GwSC United States. May 23 2012 08:31. Posts 1730

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NinjaMagic Sweden. May 23 2012 08:50. Posts 81

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Currently using

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#acXdUj!ZbX!aaYZZb

In Hell act 1 HC, plowing through stuff.

Some offence and some defence, keeps me fairly safe.

Question of my own: I got "increase range you pick up gold and healthorbs" at 20 yards now, would grave injustice and/or gruesome feast be a good choice?

GwSC United States. May 23 2012 08:59. Posts 1730

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#ahZXUP!ZWX!aaaYZZ

My current build, level 51 in Hell.
I'm not too sure about Flash Fire, maybe Roll the Bones is better but its getting the job done very well. I've tried mass confusion in place of fetish army but for now I prefer fetish army.

Any thoughts? The AOE with firebomb and single target with poison dart seems very good at this point. I was really hesitant to drop soul harvest but so far I don't miss it at all. I'm running with a lot of vitality, like 22k health atm. Hopefully this will work through hell and into inferno.
I suppose I could also easily drop a survivability cooldown and pick soul harvest back up, but I figure until I feel like my damage is really lacking I'll stick with the extra safety.

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Chronald United States. May 23 2012 09:10. Posts 600

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Bears, mana dart, 80% slow, hex, voodoo, siphon

been running 4 man hell np

EDIT: use a bow.

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Got that.

Daray May 23 2012 09:32. Posts 2888

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On May 22 2012 17:56 innocence wrote:
Ive just hit level 60, starting inferno, and currently have 50k life and 10k damage unbuffed. Been running a vision quest zombie bears build, because it just smashes everything, but i dont really enjoy it, far too boring and i'd like to be able to use defensive cooldowns when i need them, not just at the start of a fight.

Been reading around a bit, and found this well written build which i will give a try tomorrow, its vastly different from what i've been playing but i'm keen to give it a try because VQ bear spamming gets very old.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271599319

Have to quote this if anyone missed it.

The best solo build i've played with though i modified it just a little. VQ builds are boring and not even very good in solo inferno but with this you can kill champion packs all day. It's probably kinda meh before inferno because of the lack of aoe.

BentoBox Canada. May 23 2012 10:53. Posts 302

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There are so few of you guys, almost feels like WDs are extinct @_@

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trifecta United States. May 23 2012 11:08. Posts 754

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I'm comfortably farming act 1 and 2 inferno 4 mans with a VQ/Dire Bat build. Gonna switch to a poison dart build b/c summons are effing useless now.

DrGreen Poland. May 23 2012 11:18. Posts 693

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Killed Belial on inferno today and bought some good gear, 30k dmg, 35k hp. Probably gonna farm the shit out of him if its impossible to effectively farm act 2 elites (aka, not suicidal VQ builds, but I haven't tried those yet)

udgnim United States. May 23 2012 12:09. Posts 6462

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A2 Hell was already pretty easy but it became easy mode after my WD found a new 2H. Zombie Bears build so mindless :D

can't imagine how badly people would complain about D3 if Inferno mode did not exist.

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I think it's 18K+ DPS after Soul Harvest + Gruesome Feast + Pierce the Veil. Holding down RMB casting Zombie Bears good skill to have in Hell. Too bad it looks like Zombie Bear fun ends in Inferno.

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NecroSaint England. May 23 2012 14:48. Posts 100

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A1 Hell Hardcore: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#afUdRT!ZbV!cYaZaZ

Plough through whites, bosses are easy with some small changes. But yellows and blues take so long :/. I think my gear sucks.

Whalecore Norway. May 23 2012 18:32. Posts 1083

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On May 23 2012 09:10 Chronald wrote:
Bears, mana dart, 80% slow, hex, voodoo, siphon

been running 4 man hell np

EDIT: use a bow.

4 man hell <- you can do whatever build you want in 4 man hell.

On May 23 2012 09:32 Daray wrote:

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Yeah I do something similar. I don't really like wall of zombies though, waaay too high cooldown for little damage/slow imo. I use locust swarm with mana rune instead. There will always be teleporters/fast elites, and getting off a locust swarm helps damage them all. Also it destroys illusion packs.

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daredpanda United States. May 24 2012 01:02. Posts 55

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On May 23 2012 03:24 Gaslo wrote:
I am having a hard time deciding what spell to use as my AOE spell. I try different stuff, but i always return to rain of toads. I have seen people using Dire bats, locust swarm, and Acid rain, but at least with those bats and acid rain i go OOM so fast that using them in a prolonged fight is pretty hard. I just got bears so maybe i give them a try, but they seem to have the same mana problem as bats and AR.

I would go fro Acid rain. Rain of toads eats up your mana pretty fast

On May 23 2012 04:17 Dyme wrote:
Can't solo the butcher. His aoe cone thingy onehits me. How much hp do you need?

I currently have ~15k hp and 25k dmg.

I really start disliking Witch Doctor. He needs to get close to do better damage than autoattack and for Soul Harvest. His survivability is the worst of the ranged people (Wizard can just tank everything, and Demon Hunter is invulnerable for 4x3 seconds); and both other classes don't need to get close. WD animations are long, so kiting gets less efficient. Using Zombie Bears (which admittedly do insane dps) is nearly always an all-in situation. Because once you start casting you are a) very close and b) stuck in the animation. Pets are useless.

Just don't know what to do anymore.

Agreed. The animation for WD kiting is long. Its not like kiting with the wizard.

In regards to the "NON-VQ NON-SH SOLO INFERNO BUILD" http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271599319?page=1
It does not make sense to me. This is the build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aZUkRX!XbW!aacZab For the passives there are Spiritual Attunement and Blood ritual. This is unnecessary imo because by looking at the skills used in the build: it is not very mana demanding! Either change those passives, or and add a AOE like Acid rain or bats. Do damage and not waste the unused mana while you kite

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DannyJ United States. May 24 2012 01:45. Posts 3746

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Sigh i wish my gargantuan didnt just get 1 shot from most mobs in Inferno. Why are pets so damned useless?

Crosswind United States. May 24 2012 01:50. Posts 273

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On May 24 2012 01:02 daredpanda wrote:
In regards to the "NON-VQ NON-SH SOLO INFERNO BUILD" http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271599319?page=1
It does not make sense to me. This is the build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aZUkRX!XbW!aacZab For the passives there are Spiritual Attunement and Blood ritual. This is unnecessary imo because by looking at the skills used in the build: it is not very mana demanding! Either change those passives, or and add a AOE like Acid rain or bats. Do damage and not waste the unused mana while you kite

Are you sure that, with the +50-60% attack speed he recommends, you still won't be losing mana on poison dart spam alone?

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Daray May 24 2012 04:35. Posts 2888

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On May 24 2012 01:50 Crosswind wrote:

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Are you sure that, with the +50-60% attack speed he recommends, you still won't be losing mana on poison dart spam alone?

-Cross

Yeah those 2 passives are unnecessary atleast for me i have like 35% attack speed. You can take Spirit Vessel, Jungle Fortitude or Fetish Sycophants. Im also using Honored Guest instead of Healing Journey and usually swapping Zombie Wall or Horrify for an aoe spell like Locust Swarm but im not sure yet what combo i prefer.