| Medrea May 21 2012 06:52. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
I get one shot (or otherwise destroyed) by everything act 3 and beyond even with 60k HP and 583 to every resist. And rare packs in Act 2 still kill me unless I get a lucky modifier.
Builds in general dont matter because the way you progress in Inferno in Act 2 is to corpse loot chests in Act 3 and 4 with a party in large MF gear. Or do the same in the Magical Rainbow Pony Land. Which is prob a lot better.
Boon shield is also irrelevant because no matter how much you spam it its only a 15 percent shield. So your gonna die to the first thing that headshots you through shield.
EDIT: Speaking of Monks. I need an ok geared Monk for Inferno Diablo kill. I need the second monk.Last edit: 2012-05-21 07:02:37 |
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| Regina Netherlands. May 21 2012 07:06. Posts 148 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 06:13 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 06:06 Regina wrote:
it means your AOE can crit and regen spirit. Intended is only crits of your FoT. So you go with sweeping + fire glyph (bigest range) and you can either spam mantra of healing + shield, and on not so extreem packs eitehr cyclone pull + fear, or you can go with wave of light i think its called. and use your mantra of healing only when needed.
anyway even if that bug gets fixed, run with 40% attack speed and some spirit regen and you should be fine too. i have been tanking all kind of shits with same strat only w/o quickinging, didnt knew it before. About the mantra of healing spam, its just the most obvious thing to do and the best imo, all other spells doesnt give you enough avoidance and also keep enough + healing for whenever you dont dodge a strike.
I run some test on it, to see how it fell. The major problem I see with it is the initial cost of Sweeping Wind.  Sometime if I start a pack with not enough spirit to use it, I have huge trouble getting enough spirit do it and start spamming the Boon shield thing before dying. :<
in these cases just use your serenity ..? normally with a non elite pack it shouldnt be a problem to engage w/o sweeping wind, if you have a blue or other elite pakc just attack some random mob nearby to get the spirit. also use w/e that jump is called its awsome to get away incase things get messy.
@mendreea which resistance you decided to get to 583 and why? (getting in range for infernoo soon lvl wise) fire/frost/physical ? Last edit: 2012-05-21 07:08:11 |
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| Medrea May 21 2012 07:38. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Poison since its budget per point seems to be lower than everything else.
I still need a second monk for Last boss of inferno difficulty. No takers really?Last edit: 2012-05-21 07:38:24 |
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| dreamsmasher May 21 2012 09:56. Posts 732 | Profile # |
| kind of disappointed with the variety of builds for this class. all i do is literally right click put up sweeping winds and almost everything is passive. playing any sort of aggressive style doesn't even seem to work since you just get instagibbed. |
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| Vaelone Finland. May 21 2012 13:59. Posts 1844 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 09:56 dreamsmasher wrote:
kind of disappointed with the variety of builds for this class. all i do is literally right click put up sweeping winds and almost everything is passive. playing any sort of aggressive style doesn't even seem to work since you just get instagibbed.
Thats how I ended up playing as well, turn couple passive offensive skills on and spam aura. I should probably bind mantra to RMB.
Although I don't actually mind it too much, pretty relaxing way to play. Definitely making a Wizard next though so I can experience more panic moments.
Also a question, do Monk heals scale with anything else than levels, or should I assume they become useless at Inferno once you're health starts going up?Last edit: 2012-05-21 15:35:22 |
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| Medrea May 21 2012 14:43. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Conventionally speaking, every class is useless in Inferno after Act 1 until Blizzard fixes it.
I can kill bosses in Act 4 Inferno, but some modifiers in Act 1 are really hard or impossible. |
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| LoLAdriankat United States. May 21 2012 15:22. Posts 3634 | Profile Blog # |
| That FoT-Quickening + Sweeping Wind bug is the only reason I'm killing a lot of these elites and champs in Act 1 inferno. Thanks to the near infinite supply of spirit, spamming MoH-BoP with Transcendence allows me to ignore plague and molten. |
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| carraway May 21 2012 19:31. Posts 164 | Profile # |
| Inferno Act 1 still allows for a lot of flexibility. I can straight-tank almost every single elite pack without using Quickening/MoH/Sweeping. Act 2 is where it starts to get rough and Act 3 is ridiculous with the scaling. In order to actually straight-tank Act 3/4, I think you need something in the range of 950 resist all, which might be impossible to reach without a barb's War Cry/Impunity. |
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| Seacow May 21 2012 19:41. Posts 39 | Profile # |
Been wondering about something a for awhile.. Shield or Dual wield for survivability?
DW: 15% more dodge with that passive, much more damage.
Shield: More armor, chance to block damage, frees up another passive slot
I've been using DW ever since I got access to that 15% dodge passive, but I'm curious if someone has found sword'n'board better. I haven't experimented much myself. |
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| run.at.me Australia. May 21 2012 19:51. Posts 307 | Profile # |
im rockin the shield and weapon, coz i find that in inferno you really just die TOO EASILY, so im doing everything i can to prevent that from happening, while maintaining some decent dps.
currently at 1300 dex 1300 vit, around 11k damage (with heaven light buff) and 5.3k armor ( i use the 100% dex/armour buff but im considering changing this)
anywho, it seems both monks and barb are fucked in inferno coz just cant handle the dmg |
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| Seacow May 21 2012 19:55. Posts 39 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 19:51 run.at.me wrote:
im rockin the shield and weapon, coz i find that in inferno you really just die TOO EASILY, so im doing everything i can to prevent that from happening, while maintaining some decent dps.
currently at 1300 dex 1300 vit, around 11k damage (with heaven light buff) and 5.3k armor ( i use the 100% dex/armour buff but im considering changing this)
anywho, it seems both monks and barb are fucked in inferno coz just cant handle the dmg
This is what I was wondering about.
15% dodge is a ton, and I'm not convinced some extra armor/block chance is worth giving it up for. And then there's the drop in DPS from only using one weapon.
42 HC monk in NM act 2, I might add. |
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| bgx Poland. May 21 2012 20:09. Posts 6509 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 19:55 Seacow wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 19:51 run.at.me wrote:
im rockin the shield and weapon, coz i find that in inferno you really just die TOO EASILY, so im doing everything i can to prevent that from happening, while maintaining some decent dps.
currently at 1300 dex 1300 vit, around 11k damage (with heaven light buff) and 5.3k armor ( i use the 100% dex/armour buff but im considering changing this)
anywho, it seems both monks and barb are fucked in inferno coz just cant handle the dmg
This is what I was wondering about. 15% dodge is a ton, and I'm not convinced some extra armor/block chance is worth giving it up for. And then there's the drop in DPS from only using one weapon. 42 HC monk in NM act 2, I might add.
I heard shields are periodical (in Hell), you use it until you have good offhand weapon because dual wield will be always superior in most cases.
hi btw  Last edit: 2012-05-21 20:09:56 |
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| Regina Netherlands. May 21 2012 20:26. Posts 148 | Profile # |
| tbh shield isnt gonna do much if you get oneshot by something so if shield doenst help with that stick with dw imo. Only if shield makes you stay alife where you would otherwise have died. The times you die of melee attacks, most of the time you would have with either dw or shield because dmg is just to high to soak up. With the dw you have more spirit to spend, more dmg and if you like some extra dodge i see this all help more vs all non-instagib dmg. also stats on weapons seem better. |
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| Amui Canada. May 21 2012 20:59. Posts 3130 | Profile Blog # |
Depends on RNG tbh. Both shields and DW can get gibbed very quickly by unlucky strings of hits on inferno, and smart CD usage is what keeps you alive. Currently on act 1 inferno and for me (1h+shield), I have to rotate cooldowns for most mobs in order to not die(not using the BoH spam thing). I'd say I'm not terribly geared for somebody going into Act1 inferno, but it definitely hurts, especially when not abusing stuff that's probably going to get fixed.
34k health, 6.4k damage and 4k armor.
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| Hollow Canada. May 21 2012 21:47. Posts 2062 | Profile Blog # |
A guide to owning Inferno with a Monk by Hollow:
Find good gear
Get a good build
Get a frenzy shrine
Profit from near 25k dps
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VdU3O.jpg)
:DLast edit: 2012-05-21 21:48:07 |
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| Regina Netherlands. May 21 2012 22:45. Posts 148 | Profile # |
| @hollow, howmuch resistance you have and from which stat? |
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| Hollow Canada. May 21 2012 23:22. Posts 2062 | Profile Blog # |
On May 21 2012 22:45 Regina wrote:
@hollow, howmuch resistance you have and from which stat?
221 in everything right now (using One With Everything)
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| FliedLice Germany. May 21 2012 23:57. Posts 6479 | Profile Blog # |
Would you mind posting your skillbuild?
I obviously see the skills, but I'm wondering about the runes |
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| Hollow Canada. May 22 2012 00:12. Posts 2062 | Profile Blog # | |
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| noD May 22 2012 01:22. Posts 2120 | Profile Blog # |
On May 21 2012 21:47 Hollow wrote:A guide to owning Inferno with a Monk by Hollow: Find good gear Get a good build Get a frenzy shrine Profit from near 25k dps :D
lol i feel dumb but i didnt know u could dual wield with monk
care to tell me the 2 weapons ? |
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