| mrfcb Norway. May 21 2012 04:38. Posts 6 | Profile # |
| amazing series! Game 5 must be the best sc2 match ever played. But.... what is up with these butthurt ppl complaining about mvp cheesing in game 7. The map is toss favored, there where 6 great games before the last and you're whining about ONE cheese? My advice to you: Don't forget to take your medication. |
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| jtp118 United States. May 21 2012 05:03. Posts 99 | Profile # | |
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| forsooth United States. May 21 2012 05:14. Posts 2685 | Profile # |
On May 20 2012 17:43 WinningGuy wrote: I dont see MVP as the champion, just a coinflipper.
If squirtle warps in at home in game 1 he wins, in game 3 he was lucky enough to go past squitles army in the middle of the map. I can still see Squirtle shaking his head in the booth when this happened.
MVP relies on that kind of luck, he hasnt won all 2012 because honestly, he hasnt deserved it.
He lacks true still but his biggest strength is knowing how to win a game with a flip of the coin.
Winning a championship doesnt meant I have to respect the way he plays or the way he wins.
People wonder why Champions frequently go out in the round of 32 in back to back GSL's.
It's because they didnt deserve to win.
MVP is dead to me.
You just made the most idiotic post in the history of this website. |
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| dreamsmasher May 21 2012 07:07. Posts 735 | Profile # |
On May 20 2012 14:56 SeAK wrote: Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 06:52 Hypemeup wrote: Yeah, I just rewatched game 5. After the final battle was over Legend highlighted that squirtle still had 7 HTs, one Stalker and one Archon lest on the island. That is 20 supply if I am not misstaken. And he still shat pretty hard on MVPs "Ultimate" comp.
Shame Squirtle botched game7 by being worried about the rax. :| Poor guy.
when was mass battle cruisers ever an ultimate comp vs protoss?
if you watch how that game played out, MVP lost that game due to miscontrol, not unit composition. ghost/BC is pretty strong int he late game against protoss.
stalkers aren't effective against BCs at all when you have massive numbers of them. the terran army in the super late game should be a lot larger since you dont need any scvs to mine (except the few for gas). not only that but if you watched that map, it is almost impossible for protoss to attack into the island expos since a PF + small missile turret ring will deny all entry onto it.
do you really think someone would play into the super late game if they knew for sure it was going to be a loss?Last edit: 2012-05-21 07:13:08 |
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| dreamsmasher May 21 2012 07:08. Posts 735 | Profile # |
On May 20 2012 16:02 800800 wrote: Game 5 is awesome not because of what crazy strat they pull, but because of the unbelievable comeback at the moment of the series. And game 6 gave hope to most of us that was cheering for underdog. I bet people rooting for MVP were happy too. Then game 7... Game 7 was suppose to be the most heart pumping game. But it wasn't. I don't even understand how some people on this forum can possible think that was epic or enjoyable.
MVP completely tricked squirtle in the last game...
after the inital scv pull 2 rax was held off by squirtle, MVP started rallying more marines to a different location to setup a flank, which made a losing position (failed 2 rax all in) into a winning one by the hair of mule economy, it was an extremely smartly executed cheese.
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| Havik_ United States. May 21 2012 08:29. Posts 4395 | Profile # |
Game 5 was the best game I've ever seen, and the series overall was one of the best I've seen too.
This has to be better than DRG v MMA |
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| Confuse May 21 2012 08:43. Posts 1806 | Profile # |
Just gonna repost what I posted in the LR here in light of some MVP hate being shown...
The best thing about all of this is that it continues to solidify (in my view) the claim that SC2 is a game of skill. Sure maybe you can't scout something and you lose to an all in. Sure maybe some newly devised strategy seems unfair and "impossible" to beat. Maybe people will call you someone that cheeses or has no skill and wins with luck, easy opponents, etc.
But the best is above that and wins despite what non-believers call flaws in the game/tournament setup. They just keep winning. And it gets harder and harder for people to call good players bad on what they clearly don't understand.
Congrats MVP, and good job. |
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| Kuja United States. May 21 2012 09:01. Posts 1743 | Profile Blog # |
| Hell, its about time we got these kinds of finals! |
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| BaconofWar United States. May 21 2012 10:40. Posts 356 | Profile Blog # |
After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.
EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills. Last edit: 2012-05-21 10:42:24 |
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| Ace1123 Philippines. May 21 2012 11:37. Posts 1118 | Profile # |
Amazing! I really thought It was over when the 1st push was held during game 7, But yet it is Mvp  |
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| Ancient-Hunter Korea (South). May 21 2012 12:08. Posts 142 | Profile # |
I was there, it was unbelievable, the energy in the crowd after that Archon toilet and all of game 7 was breathtaking.
What a future this sport has.
Oh, and MvP is far from lucky, you don't "luck" into 4 GSL championships. |
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| NekoFlandre United States. May 21 2012 12:18. Posts 497 | Profile # |
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| MrF United States. May 21 2012 13:24. Posts 312 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote: After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.
EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.
I dont think squirtles probe killed off anything in the main except that one mule, I am pretty sure that Mvp just pulled every last scv in his final effort and if not then maybe he left one scv to mine that the probe did get, but im fairly sure that it just started attackin the mule and tastosis made a big deal about it because there were no scvs there and so much was happening at once it was hard to keep track. The fact is i doubt Mvp would let a single probe kill off several scvs in a game where he only has like 12 units to keep track of. Ill have to review it again but i believe he pulled all his scvs the second time knowing that one mule can apparently power 2 barracks >< Edit; so what actually happened was mvp pulled every scv with the last push he then built 2 more and from what i could see on the minimap he sent those 2 out as well most likely right around the time the probe arrived, you can see in the vod that one scv joins up with the attack and the other is sent back home probobly to protect the mules from that probe.Last edit: 2012-05-21 13:34:00 |
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| Tauscond United States. May 21 2012 13:36. Posts 139 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote: After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.
EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.
Base trade? Don't forget Terran's buildings can fly. |
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| Dingobloo Australia. May 21 2012 14:04. Posts 1837 | Profile Blog # |
MVP's ability to plan out a series is seeming increasingly like his greatest strength, this could very easily have gone 4-0 and robbed us of some really tense games. Even the decision to cheese in the final game was driven by the map. It's excellent to see.
4 GSL, WCG, MLG, Blizzcon it's absolutely crazy how successful he's been and all the more crazy after his slump at the start of the year and wrist issues that he's been able to bounce back to take that 4th GSL title, I just hope he can put together back to back good seasons and get effective treatment for his wrists. |
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| forsooth United States. May 21 2012 14:05. Posts 2685 | Profile # |
On May 21 2012 10:40 BaconofWar wrote: After FINALLY watching these games, I think squirtle could've stayed in it a little longer if he'd had some good micro. And remind yourself, Squirtle's probe had killed off all of MVP's SCVs, and the lone mule on the field. If he had gone for a base trade that involved building a pylon in MVP's base, I think it would've been possible.
EDIT: Plus MVP had 3 weeks of TvP Practice. The fact that squirtle managed to hold on for so long is just a testament to his skills.
With no nexus and no money to tech to stargate and get a phoenix or void ray out, a base trade would never have worked. Terran buildings can fly. MVP could have just flown his orbital to Squirtle's base and parked it next to his bunker if he wanted.Last edit: 2012-05-21 14:06:23 |
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| Mazingdc5 May 21 2012 14:18. Posts 1 | Profile # |
I thought the game was going to be over 4-0 easy. I wanted to go to be around 6:30 with 4-0. ended up staying up til 7:30 am. lol. THE BEST GAME EVER IVE SEEN IN GSL!!!!
LONG LIVE THE MVP!!! |
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| SkyHighEyes United States. May 21 2012 14:39. Posts 11 | Profile # |
| What was the song that played on the English stream while Mvp was showing off the trophy at the very very end? Great choice for him! |
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| JoelE United States. May 21 2012 15:06. Posts 112 | Profile Blog # |
| I watched this instead of writing a paper. Way worth it! |
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| Kaxon United States. May 21 2012 15:55. Posts 117 | Profile # |
| That was an awesome finals. I'm still partial to DRG vs MMA in the Blizzard Cup as my favorite series ever, but this one was basically just as amazing. |
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