On May 20 2012 21:57 alffla wrote: why isn't bogus taking his natural
I can only assume he isn't used to playing vs expansion builds other than 1gate expands and is probably being over defensive because he's worried about some cheese.
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On May 20 2012 22:04 Surili wrote: I love watching broodwar occasionally, even though i never really followed the scene at all, but these guys are making SC2 look terrible
PS no wonder flash said he thought protoss was op, the BW terrans are terrible in TvP :/
This is what happens when you have to practice for 2 games.
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote: Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible
yaeh word
but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>
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Surili United Kingdom. May 20 2012 22:11. Posts 1077
I have been trying really hard to get into watching BW, and i have been really enjoying it, but i am just so sad that every time BW players get a reason to watch SC2, there is a reason why the games look terrible, like the Boxer Yellow stuff, where yellow was awful, and now this. Also the stuff at anahiem i am sure will be god awful too, and i am gonna be so sad, because it is a really good game. Nowhere near as hard as broodwar, but it is still really good and great to watch.
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On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote: Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible
yaeh word
but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>
That seems to be how terran wins in TvP though, at least based on my limited understanding of the MU at the pro level. Reality pressured in the front, dropped in the back, and got himself a good solid lead. Then he attacked from the front before the protoss death ball can form, and won.
It's pretty boring play, yes. But then again I really only like TvZ in SC2, since it bores some resemblance to BW's large scale engagements.
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote: Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible
yaeh word
but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>
From my understanding the snowball effect is huge hence big fight into gg happens. The way I see it, things were "nerfed" in order to prevent early game all ins in small maps, so when there is a huge fight and stuff dies, it is usually hard (in the sense that things take a long time to build) to replenish your army. That leads to one big figh -> win because you can't defend when the eventual snowball comes. You win a battle and are ahead because there is no time to have a new army back at home to defend, so even with a small number of units left from the big battle, those are enough to start dealing damage and then both defenders and offensive reinforcements arrive almost at the same time (warp gates and fast running units).
That's what I always tought was the problem that made these blob into gg fights more common than they should.
Then again, I watch a lot of SC2 but I dont play it so my observation isn't valid, idk, that's what the most logical justification I see for it.
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Surili United Kingdom. May 20 2012 22:14. Posts 1077
On May 20 2012 22:06 baubo wrote: Bogus with some god awful play. I think the only terran who played like a pro today was Reality. Everyone else look just horrible
yaeh word
but still in that game it was basically just one big fight and gg >_>
That seems to be how terran wins in TvP though, at least based on my limited understanding of the MU at the pro level. Reality pressured in the front, dropped in the back, and got himself a good solid lead. Then he attacked from the front before the protoss death ball can form, and won.
It's pretty boring play, yes. But then again I really only like TvZ in SC2, since it bores some resemblance to BW's large scale engagements.
This was true for a long time, but it really has been developing for a long time. Here is an example of a really fantastic PvT, obviously it is a REALLY good one so not that representative of most games, but it is really getting better and better.
Sorry bad link.
PS again, i won't mention things that aren't proper LR stuff again. Seriously if you wanna give SC2 a chance check out that game.
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alffla Hong Kong. May 20 2012 22:05. Posts 20255
